Reply #156: It has nothing to do with the President.

[vaberella]

The President doesn't vote in Democrats. The people vote them in. This is the problem from the beginning. Obama really can't shift the polls towards one candidate or another. However, he still is obligated in a way to support them in their primary runs for a reason. We all know that with the electoral college we don't really vote for the President. These House reps have more say in who eventually becomes President than anything else. Further more if he think he can have leverage on something that these people might be interested in---these people will lean towards his side so he has to be cordial.

You're statements above are ludicrous. What you're calling for is out right violence, threats, and terrorizing in order to get what you want. In what world would that ever happen or even be realistic? Really. This not the time of LBJ and Obama is not LBJ and neither is Congress anything like LBJ's congress. There are factors and issues that affect each situation that makes them unique. LBJ even made significant amount of compromises in his issues that people seem to ignore. To even mention Lieberman is just a strawman. You want a President who follows the rule of law, upholds it, and be an advocate of intelligence and diplomacy but you fault him for tolerating Lieberman? In Civics we're taught that the people vote for the elected officials. So Obama, as the President, doesn't fire the elected officials. Those people are voted in by the people. Obama has to deal with the officials the people of a district put in place. If you have issues with Lieberman, then take it out on his constituents not on Obama. To blame Obama for tolerating him is absolute madness.

I didn't see Obama vociferously defending Lieberman, but I think many people see what what they want. As for people not wanting to break ranks with the President---that's ludicrous. The first day he came on board he signed to close Gitmo. Several Congressmen were with him, and then when he asked for funding to move out the prisoners and send a few to maximum security prisons in the US----those people disappeared. That was in the first month. This had nothing to do with knee-capping or whatever crap you were mentioning, these people are just weak. Weak. He even advocated on finding some place to put the prisoners and has been trying and he's still being blocked by the House on this. Even DUers were supporting Congress for not providing Obama with funding so Gitmo could close. So Please on this. There has been dissension from the get go and much of it coming from the clowns in the OP. All of them have been like this.


I think I'm just utterly shocked how your "perspective" puts Obama at fault for even Congress---which is utterly independent of him.