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Tue Aug-10-10 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 30. OK. Sorry to ask you to back up your baseless assertions |
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I forgot who I was talking to.
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| -The Whitehouse has the right to speak back to those that constantly trash it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:25 PM |
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And vice-versa, yes? |
villager |
Aug-10-10 12:25 PM |
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Of course. I only said as much 2 or 3 times in my OP. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:28 PM |
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No question. It happens on this forum on a DAILY basis. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 12:29 PM |
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What's wrong with DU that we can't reflexively sign off on every Executive Branch policy... |
villager |
Aug-10-10 01:11 PM |
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Proving my point |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 01:27 PM |
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So, your observation is allowed, but mine isn't? |
villager |
Aug-10-10 04:04 PM |
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Feigned analysis. |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 03:22 PM |
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Talk about tunnel vision! |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-11-10 08:04 AM |
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Absolutely. They're just "holding your feet to the fire." |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-10-10 12:28 PM |
#2 |
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Yes, I totally agree. |
kjackson227 |
Aug-10-10 12:29 PM |
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I applaud Gibbs for his honesty! |
Political Tiger |
Aug-10-10 12:31 PM |
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Ah, infighting. I think both sides are getting caught up in it and blaming |
Jennicut |
Aug-10-10 12:31 PM |
#7 |
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Really? |
daleanime |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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That is true. Both parties go through the push and pull. This is nothing new. |
Jennicut |
Aug-10-10 12:37 PM |
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The only problem is... |
daleanime |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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I'm having trouble coming |
leftynyc |
Aug-10-10 03:22 PM |
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How about theyuse some of that vitriol and energy to attack the RWingnuts that WANT |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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The ratio of attacking the right vs the left from this WH is probably about 100 to 1 respectively. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Then why don't they speak back to those who call Obama "Hitler"? |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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They have and continue to do so all the time. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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You avoided the question |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:36 PM |
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I'm not avoiding anything. Its not a valid question. It isn't true. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:37 PM |
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Then show me where they've gone after the right in the same way. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:39 PM |
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They've verbally attacked Fox News, Glen Beck, Republicans and people who spread crazy rumors. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:41 PM |
#28 |
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OK. Sorry to ask you to back up your baseless assertions |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:44 PM |
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Can't win an argument? Break out the cliche, hollow bullshit! |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:47 PM |
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Wow, that is a mindbendingly self-referential post. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:48 PM |
#35 |
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The more you try to fancy up "I know you are but what am I"... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:55 PM |
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I know you are but what am I |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:58 PM |
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It most certainly is a valid question |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 01:16 PM |
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Rahm didn't call anyone fucking retarded. He called a commercial fucking retarded. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:23 PM |
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It was aimed at Progressives |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 02:38 PM |
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It was in response to a direct question about how he felt about a commercial... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:49 PM |
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It was aimed at Move-On and the Unions..come on..You know that..why the bullshit? |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:51 PM |
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Bullshit? |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 03:55 PM |
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I think trying to kill the bill was fucking retarded to. There I said it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:09 AM |
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let's see |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:18 PM |
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Aug-10-10 03:25 PM |
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Please review the definition of "false" |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 05:38 PM |
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Virulent anger? |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 01:15 PM |
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However you characterize it, it's far stronger than anything they've said to the Right. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 02:21 PM |
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Because it's hard to be angry at people who are too dumb to know any better |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-10-10 11:22 PM |
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Why would they elevate any fool like that to their level? |
Hansel |
Aug-11-10 08:23 PM |
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I know a few who dish it out every way they can, each and every day, |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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Perhaps we're just appalled at the political stupidity of it. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:35 PM |
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Last I checked, none of us spoke on behalf of the |
spoony |
Aug-10-10 01:21 PM |
#57 |
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*speak back* |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Oh, here's another false argument. |
Stoic |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Dang. Now they gotta |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:13 PM |
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Then why don't they call Rush a drug addict? |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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You are pretending that they haven't. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:35 PM |
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Really, can you point me to a link or something |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:42 PM |
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I meant that in reference to "hitting the right wing teabag monstrosities" |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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Why am I being tossed in the same basket as those assholes? |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:51 PM |
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Unless you believe Obama is just like George Bush, then you weren't tossed in that basket. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:56 PM |
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Obama has indeed continued SOME of the same policies as Bush |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 01:10 PM |
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"I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested" |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:15 PM |
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Here - this is a perfect explanation of what he's done |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 01:18 PM |
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Link, please. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:34 PM |
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I don't need to give you a link. You know this WH has criticized the right. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:44 PM |
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The earth is flat. I don't need to give you a link. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:46 PM |
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If you had said it was round, then you would be correct. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:56 PM |
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I haven't denied anything. I asked for a link. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:02 PM |
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I don't want to spend my time looking for links for things that people all ready know. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:06 PM |
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"everyone knows" |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:09 PM |
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So then you are denying everything you said you weren't denying. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:18 PM |
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In English, please? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:19 PM |
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I'm sorry, I don't know what "In English" means. I'm going to need a link. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:39 PM |
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The saddest part is that you probably think you're being clever. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 03:37 PM |
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No, cleverness is only required when commucating with someone that warrants it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:10 AM |
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But supporting one's claim is universal. No cleverness required. |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 11:57 AM |
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Nor does it appear you know anything about LINKS |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:21 PM |
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how quickly some here chose to forget |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:25 PM |
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"65% of the DLC are also members of NAMBLA." |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 05:01 PM |
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But you have plenty of time to bullshit. |
joe black |
Aug-12-10 09:21 AM |
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we could go and look that stuff up....right? |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:27 PM |
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"that's how it works" That's how what works? Supporting one's arguments? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 04:57 PM |
#114 |
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oh dear, now you are going to say that I'm condescending when I explain this |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 05:38 PM |
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I don't know where (or if) you went to university, but ... |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 06:20 PM |
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Aug-10-10 08:14 PM |
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I have a whole list of links someone posted down thread. I refuse to give them to you. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:12 AM |
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Personal attacks aren't warranted. |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 11:58 AM |
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K & R. |
tandot |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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Well said. n/t |
FSogol |
Aug-10-10 12:36 PM |
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The White House are "OUR EMPLOYEES!" the only rights they have to smear and trash Ameriicans is |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 12:38 PM |
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No boss of mine would be allowed to constantly trash me without me talking back. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:40 PM |
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Poor Obama! Bullied by those mean voters! |
spoony |
Aug-10-10 01:24 PM |
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The only people I see being bullies are in this White House! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 01:30 PM |
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Oh, poor little you. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:57 PM |
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Seriously. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 02:23 PM |
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If you THINK you are doing democrats or the democratic party any favors..you are seriously mistaken! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 02:30 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-10 12:49 PM |
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figures |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 12:58 PM |
#45 |
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civil |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:35 PM |
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back at you |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 03:06 PM |
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I do aim for civility, yes. You? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 03:31 PM |
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Well, you're failing at it |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 04:37 PM |
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I'm sorry, who are you? |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 01:23 PM |
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Pointing to an extreme fridge is a Hail-Mary diversion when you get frustrated |
Snotcicles |
Aug-10-10 12:39 PM |
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You mean the "extreme fringe" who are |
ProSense |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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If the shoe fits, By all means change "an" to 'the". nt |
Snotcicles |
Aug-10-10 01:05 PM |
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Next they'll be looking for references to the word ugly |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:32 PM |
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I have a sub-zero freezer. Does that count as an extreme fridge? (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:23 AM |
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Warm beer at 8PM is a very frustrating situation to be in. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:13 AM |
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Excellent point, well stated. |
yellerpup |
Aug-10-10 12:49 PM |
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To paraphrase Harry Truman, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-10-10 12:50 PM |
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Weak leaders criticize those who put them there. |
moksha |
Aug-10-10 12:53 PM |
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Yep, I question his priorities. |
LAGC |
Aug-10-10 02:01 PM |
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Great post- thank you n/t |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 12:57 PM |
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Politically impossible according to whom? You? |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-10-10 01:08 PM |
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To anyone that has a realistic perspective on the current political environment. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:10 PM |
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You realistic? thanks for the chuckle! eom |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 04:53 PM |
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Kicked&Recommended! |
butterfly77 |
Aug-10-10 01:16 PM |
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a hearty agreement with Gibbs! |
Whisp |
Aug-10-10 01:18 PM |
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Rec'd for sanity. Well said. [nt] |
Jester Messiah |
Aug-10-10 01:32 PM |
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Well said. |
azmouse |
Aug-10-10 01:37 PM |
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Don't get mad at RG for one of the stupidest moves of the decade? (nt) |
philly_bob |
Aug-10-10 01:59 PM |
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Some have said it better than I ever could! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 02:27 PM |
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Making up arguments that no one in this thread made. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:36 PM |
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The transparency is not coming out of the White House today,, as anyone who wanted it ever expected. |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:18 PM |
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Must be nice when one's functionality is limited to being a walking, talking point. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:21 PM |
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game over..the only one with talking points is looking you in the mirror! eom |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:35 PM |
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Getting the last word really isn't worth it if you have to resort to such embarassingly... |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:15 AM |
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A broad-brush insult of the left is not a worthy "response" |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:34 PM |
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I'll stop you right at your subject. It wasn't broad brush. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:36 PM |
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It was. And there is no other way it could be perceived, because |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:45 PM |
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No, it wasn't. It applied only to the criteria of people who are never happy. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:48 PM |
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What response would be needed to "people who are never |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:55 PM |
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Its not a broad brush because the vast majority of self identified liberals... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:15 PM |
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Like he is that bent on some infinitely small group of drugged out crazies |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 11:14 PM |
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Also, "Gibbs said the professional left is not representative of the progressives who organized..." |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:20 PM |
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So, he and you define "progressives" as those who limit their |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 06:29 PM |
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Sure they have the right |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
#104 |
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Great Post K&R |
KBlagburn |
Aug-10-10 04:21 PM |
#108 |
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Great post. I am so angry with self sabotaging democrats . If we could unite |
Pisces |
Aug-10-10 05:04 PM |
#116 |
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No one doubts its right, as stupid as exercizing that right is. |
damntexdem |
Aug-10-10 05:10 PM |
#117 |
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Kick, Rec. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Aug-10-10 06:21 PM |
#121 |
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LOL! What a sublime bit of nonsense |
Vinnie From Indy |
Aug-10-10 06:29 PM |
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Yes, the people who should appreciate what he has accomplished. Who give a shit what |
Pisces |
Aug-10-10 06:32 PM |
#125 |
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The administration cares what the TeaPubliKlans think is who |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 11:09 PM |
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Then why doesn't he speak out so forcefully against Faux? |
jillan |
Aug-10-10 06:31 PM |
#124 |
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While I agree that some tend to get unnecessarily hyperbolic |
last_texas_dem |
Aug-10-10 09:21 PM |
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They never talk about republicans with that kind of venim |
donheld |
Aug-10-10 11:06 PM |
#128 |
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They don't feel that kind of enmity for Republicans. n/t |
QC |
Aug-10-10 11:08 PM |
#129 |
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Well said! n/t |
firedupdem |
Aug-10-10 11:24 PM |
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And I have the right to call them idiots for insulting me! |
KansasVoter |
Aug-10-10 11:33 PM |
#132 |
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Kick and Rec |
Hekate |
Aug-11-10 01:43 AM |
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The residents of the White House DO NOT have the right to trash those who put them there. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Aug-11-10 01:54 AM |
#134 |
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Exactly. Exactly. Exactly! |
closeupready |
Aug-12-10 09:59 AM |
#180 |
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curious isn't it, that the target of Gibbs and Rahm etc often are leftie DEMS, rather than Repubs... |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 04:38 AM |
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Actually, that's wrong..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-11-10 05:15 AM |
#136 |
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Shows how little you pay attention because they attack the right every day. (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:25 AM |
#143 |
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I see it very differently. No need to make a personal attack if you have good points. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 10:58 AM |
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I can guarantee you that if you go to Whitehouse.gov and scan the archives. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 11:01 AM |
#154 |
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I see you can't let go of the attack. It diminishes your points. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 11:09 AM |
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Aug-11-10 11:14 AM |
#156 |
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that you resort to name-calling demonstrates that your points are weak. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 01:03 PM |
#160 |
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You assume I want to "catch" you. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 01:13 PM |
#161 |
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no. there's no need to be rude. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 01:32 PM |
#163 |
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Sometimes, there is. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 01:33 PM |
#164 |
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not really, unless you are unable to contain your feelings and be conversantly civil. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 02:54 PM |
#165 |
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I communicate just fine, thank you. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 02:56 PM |
#166 |
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That you name-call means you don't have effective commnication. Now to ignore. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 02:58 PM |
#167 |
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That you can't own up to being wrong means you can't control your emotions. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 02:59 PM |
#168 |
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Never with the venom. Head shaking and ribbing type stuff only |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 10:52 PM |
#173 |
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The curtain has been pulled aside |
Mimosa |
Aug-11-10 06:16 AM |
#137 |
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Why don't they do it more with Republicans instead of all this "bi-partisan" crap? |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-11-10 06:33 AM |
#138 |
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Not when they don't speak back to their real enemies. |
harun |
Aug-11-10 06:34 AM |
#139 |
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They slam and call out Republicans all the time. You just don't pay attention. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:07 AM |
#145 |
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I agree - but I still don't think it was a good idea. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:22 AM |
#141 |
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K and R. |
Kdillard |
Aug-11-10 08:36 AM |
#144 |
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Too bad they didn't have the guts to fight back against the Republicans that were constantly |
JoeyT |
Aug-11-10 09:19 AM |
#151 |
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Maybe if they got any indication that progressives would stop bitchin and moaning all the time about |
ncteechur |
Aug-11-10 09:43 PM |
#170 |
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I agree. I get tired of negativity on our side. Some very sparingly hand out praise. And |
felinetta |
Aug-11-10 10:44 AM |
#152 |
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His statements are the worst possible move at the worst possible time for Obama. |
niceypoo |
Aug-11-10 11:57 AM |
#158 |
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Thank you for this |
Nancy Waterman |
Aug-11-10 10:23 PM |
#171 |
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Bring. It. On. The White House will get it back at them far worse than they can deal it out. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-11-10 10:34 PM |
#172 |
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So when Obama said... |
joe black |
Aug-12-10 09:11 AM |
#176 |
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Then Obama shouldn't be asking the base to hold his feet to the fire if he didn't mean it. |
jillan |
Aug-12-10 09:54 AM |
#178 |
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Disagree. |
closeupready |
Aug-12-10 09:57 AM |
#179 |
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