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Tue Aug-10-10 12:31 PM
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| 6. I applaud Gibbs for his honesty! |
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There is a small but extremely vocal minority of "liberals" who have been bitching and whining about Obama even before he was sworn in. They love to throw shit around but get upset when it winds up on them.
They never have supported the president and never will.
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| -The Whitehouse has the right to speak back to those that constantly trash it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:25 PM |
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And vice-versa, yes? |
villager |
Aug-10-10 12:25 PM |
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Of course. I only said as much 2 or 3 times in my OP. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:28 PM |
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No question. It happens on this forum on a DAILY basis. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 12:29 PM |
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What's wrong with DU that we can't reflexively sign off on every Executive Branch policy... |
villager |
Aug-10-10 01:11 PM |
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Proving my point |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 01:27 PM |
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So, your observation is allowed, but mine isn't? |
villager |
Aug-10-10 04:04 PM |
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Feigned analysis. |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 03:22 PM |
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Talk about tunnel vision! |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-11-10 08:04 AM |
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Absolutely. They're just "holding your feet to the fire." |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-10-10 12:28 PM |
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Yes, I totally agree. |
kjackson227 |
Aug-10-10 12:29 PM |
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I applaud Gibbs for his honesty! |
Political Tiger |
Aug-10-10 12:31 PM |
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Ah, infighting. I think both sides are getting caught up in it and blaming |
Jennicut |
Aug-10-10 12:31 PM |
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Really? |
daleanime |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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That is true. Both parties go through the push and pull. This is nothing new. |
Jennicut |
Aug-10-10 12:37 PM |
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The only problem is... |
daleanime |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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I'm having trouble coming |
leftynyc |
Aug-10-10 03:22 PM |
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How about theyuse some of that vitriol and energy to attack the RWingnuts that WANT |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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The ratio of attacking the right vs the left from this WH is probably about 100 to 1 respectively. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Then why don't they speak back to those who call Obama "Hitler"? |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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They have and continue to do so all the time. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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You avoided the question |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:36 PM |
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I'm not avoiding anything. Its not a valid question. It isn't true. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:37 PM |
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Then show me where they've gone after the right in the same way. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:39 PM |
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They've verbally attacked Fox News, Glen Beck, Republicans and people who spread crazy rumors. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:41 PM |
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OK. Sorry to ask you to back up your baseless assertions |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:44 PM |
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Can't win an argument? Break out the cliche, hollow bullshit! |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:47 PM |
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Wow, that is a mindbendingly self-referential post. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:48 PM |
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The more you try to fancy up "I know you are but what am I"... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:55 PM |
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I know you are but what am I |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:58 PM |
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It most certainly is a valid question |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 01:16 PM |
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Rahm didn't call anyone fucking retarded. He called a commercial fucking retarded. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:23 PM |
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It was aimed at Progressives |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 02:38 PM |
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It was in response to a direct question about how he felt about a commercial... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:49 PM |
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It was aimed at Move-On and the Unions..come on..You know that..why the bullshit? |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:51 PM |
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Bullshit? |
Nite Owl |
Aug-10-10 03:55 PM |
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I think trying to kill the bill was fucking retarded to. There I said it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:09 AM |
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let's see |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:18 PM |
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Aug-10-10 03:25 PM |
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Please review the definition of "false" |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 05:38 PM |
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Virulent anger? |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 01:15 PM |
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However you characterize it, it's far stronger than anything they've said to the Right. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 02:21 PM |
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Because it's hard to be angry at people who are too dumb to know any better |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-10-10 11:22 PM |
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Why would they elevate any fool like that to their level? |
Hansel |
Aug-11-10 08:23 PM |
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I know a few who dish it out every way they can, each and every day, |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-10-10 12:32 PM |
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Perhaps we're just appalled at the political stupidity of it. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 12:35 PM |
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Last I checked, none of us spoke on behalf of the |
spoony |
Aug-10-10 01:21 PM |
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*speak back* |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Oh, here's another false argument. |
Stoic |
Aug-10-10 12:33 PM |
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Dang. Now they gotta |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:13 PM |
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Then why don't they call Rush a drug addict? |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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You are pretending that they haven't. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:35 PM |
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Really, can you point me to a link or something |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:42 PM |
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I meant that in reference to "hitting the right wing teabag monstrosities" |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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Why am I being tossed in the same basket as those assholes? |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 12:51 PM |
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Unless you believe Obama is just like George Bush, then you weren't tossed in that basket. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:56 PM |
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Obama has indeed continued SOME of the same policies as Bush |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 01:10 PM |
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"I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested" |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:15 PM |
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Here - this is a perfect explanation of what he's done |
LaurenG |
Aug-10-10 01:18 PM |
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Link, please. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:34 PM |
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I don't need to give you a link. You know this WH has criticized the right. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:44 PM |
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The earth is flat. I don't need to give you a link. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:46 PM |
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If you had said it was round, then you would be correct. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:56 PM |
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I haven't denied anything. I asked for a link. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:02 PM |
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I don't want to spend my time looking for links for things that people all ready know. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:06 PM |
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"everyone knows" |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:09 PM |
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So then you are denying everything you said you weren't denying. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:18 PM |
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In English, please? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 02:19 PM |
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I'm sorry, I don't know what "In English" means. I'm going to need a link. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:39 PM |
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The saddest part is that you probably think you're being clever. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 03:37 PM |
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No, cleverness is only required when commucating with someone that warrants it. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:10 AM |
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But supporting one's claim is universal. No cleverness required. |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 11:57 AM |
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Nor does it appear you know anything about LINKS |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:21 PM |
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how quickly some here chose to forget |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:25 PM |
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"65% of the DLC are also members of NAMBLA." |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 05:01 PM |
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But you have plenty of time to bullshit. |
joe black |
Aug-12-10 09:21 AM |
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we could go and look that stuff up....right? |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:27 PM |
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"that's how it works" That's how what works? Supporting one's arguments? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 04:57 PM |
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oh dear, now you are going to say that I'm condescending when I explain this |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 05:38 PM |
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I don't know where (or if) you went to university, but ... |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 06:20 PM |
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Aug-10-10 08:14 PM |
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I have a whole list of links someone posted down thread. I refuse to give them to you. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:12 AM |
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Personal attacks aren't warranted. |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 11:58 AM |
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K & R. |
tandot |
Aug-10-10 12:34 PM |
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Well said. n/t |
FSogol |
Aug-10-10 12:36 PM |
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The White House are "OUR EMPLOYEES!" the only rights they have to smear and trash Ameriicans is |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 12:38 PM |
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No boss of mine would be allowed to constantly trash me without me talking back. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 12:40 PM |
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Poor Obama! Bullied by those mean voters! |
spoony |
Aug-10-10 01:24 PM |
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The only people I see being bullies are in this White House! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 01:30 PM |
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Oh, poor little you. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:57 PM |
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Seriously. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-10-10 02:23 PM |
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If you THINK you are doing democrats or the democratic party any favors..you are seriously mistaken! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 02:30 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-10 12:49 PM |
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figures |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 12:58 PM |
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civil |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 01:35 PM |
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back at you |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 03:06 PM |
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I do aim for civility, yes. You? |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 03:31 PM |
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Well, you're failing at it |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 04:37 PM |
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I'm sorry, who are you? |
Ignis |
Aug-11-10 01:23 PM |
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Pointing to an extreme fridge is a Hail-Mary diversion when you get frustrated |
Snotcicles |
Aug-10-10 12:39 PM |
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You mean the "extreme fringe" who are |
ProSense |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
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If the shoe fits, By all means change "an" to 'the". nt |
Snotcicles |
Aug-10-10 01:05 PM |
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Next they'll be looking for references to the word ugly |
Sheepshank |
Aug-10-10 04:32 PM |
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I have a sub-zero freezer. Does that count as an extreme fridge? (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:23 AM |
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Warm beer at 8PM is a very frustrating situation to be in. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:13 AM |
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Excellent point, well stated. |
yellerpup |
Aug-10-10 12:49 PM |
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To paraphrase Harry Truman, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-10-10 12:50 PM |
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Weak leaders criticize those who put them there. |
moksha |
Aug-10-10 12:53 PM |
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Yep, I question his priorities. |
LAGC |
Aug-10-10 02:01 PM |
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Great post- thank you n/t |
catgirl |
Aug-10-10 12:57 PM |
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Politically impossible according to whom? You? |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-10-10 01:08 PM |
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To anyone that has a realistic perspective on the current political environment. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 01:10 PM |
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You realistic? thanks for the chuckle! eom |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 04:53 PM |
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Kicked&Recommended! |
butterfly77 |
Aug-10-10 01:16 PM |
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a hearty agreement with Gibbs! |
Whisp |
Aug-10-10 01:18 PM |
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Rec'd for sanity. Well said. [nt] |
Jester Messiah |
Aug-10-10 01:32 PM |
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Well said. |
azmouse |
Aug-10-10 01:37 PM |
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Don't get mad at RG for one of the stupidest moves of the decade? (nt) |
philly_bob |
Aug-10-10 01:59 PM |
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Some have said it better than I ever could! |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 02:27 PM |
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Making up arguments that no one in this thread made. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:36 PM |
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The transparency is not coming out of the White House today,, as anyone who wanted it ever expected. |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:18 PM |
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Must be nice when one's functionality is limited to being a walking, talking point. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:21 PM |
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game over..the only one with talking points is looking you in the mirror! eom |
flyarm |
Aug-10-10 03:35 PM |
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Getting the last word really isn't worth it if you have to resort to such embarassingly... |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:15 AM |
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A broad-brush insult of the left is not a worthy "response" |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:34 PM |
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I'll stop you right at your subject. It wasn't broad brush. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:36 PM |
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It was. And there is no other way it could be perceived, because |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:45 PM |
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No, it wasn't. It applied only to the criteria of people who are never happy. |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 02:48 PM |
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What response would be needed to "people who are never |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 02:55 PM |
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Its not a broad brush because the vast majority of self identified liberals... |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:15 PM |
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Like he is that bent on some infinitely small group of drugged out crazies |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 11:14 PM |
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Also, "Gibbs said the professional left is not representative of the progressives who organized..." |
phleshdef |
Aug-10-10 03:20 PM |
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So, he and you define "progressives" as those who limit their |
DirkGently |
Aug-10-10 06:29 PM |
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Sure they have the right |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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Great Post K&R |
KBlagburn |
Aug-10-10 04:21 PM |
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Great post. I am so angry with self sabotaging democrats . If we could unite |
Pisces |
Aug-10-10 05:04 PM |
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No one doubts its right, as stupid as exercizing that right is. |
damntexdem |
Aug-10-10 05:10 PM |
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Kick, Rec. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Aug-10-10 06:21 PM |
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LOL! What a sublime bit of nonsense |
Vinnie From Indy |
Aug-10-10 06:29 PM |
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Yes, the people who should appreciate what he has accomplished. Who give a shit what |
Pisces |
Aug-10-10 06:32 PM |
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The administration cares what the TeaPubliKlans think is who |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 11:09 PM |
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Then why doesn't he speak out so forcefully against Faux? |
jillan |
Aug-10-10 06:31 PM |
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While I agree that some tend to get unnecessarily hyperbolic |
last_texas_dem |
Aug-10-10 09:21 PM |
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They never talk about republicans with that kind of venim |
donheld |
Aug-10-10 11:06 PM |
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They don't feel that kind of enmity for Republicans. n/t |
QC |
Aug-10-10 11:08 PM |
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Well said! n/t |
firedupdem |
Aug-10-10 11:24 PM |
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And I have the right to call them idiots for insulting me! |
KansasVoter |
Aug-10-10 11:33 PM |
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Kick and Rec |
Hekate |
Aug-11-10 01:43 AM |
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The residents of the White House DO NOT have the right to trash those who put them there. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Aug-11-10 01:54 AM |
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Exactly. Exactly. Exactly! |
closeupready |
Aug-12-10 09:59 AM |
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curious isn't it, that the target of Gibbs and Rahm etc often are leftie DEMS, rather than Repubs... |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 04:38 AM |
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Actually, that's wrong..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-11-10 05:15 AM |
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Shows how little you pay attention because they attack the right every day. (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:25 AM |
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I see it very differently. No need to make a personal attack if you have good points. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 10:58 AM |
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I can guarantee you that if you go to Whitehouse.gov and scan the archives. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 11:01 AM |
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I see you can't let go of the attack. It diminishes your points. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 11:09 AM |
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Aug-11-10 11:14 AM |
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that you resort to name-calling demonstrates that your points are weak. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 01:03 PM |
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You assume I want to "catch" you. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 01:13 PM |
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no. there's no need to be rude. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 01:32 PM |
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Sometimes, there is. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 01:33 PM |
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not really, unless you are unable to contain your feelings and be conversantly civil. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 02:54 PM |
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I communicate just fine, thank you. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 02:56 PM |
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That you name-call means you don't have effective commnication. Now to ignore. |
nightrain |
Aug-11-10 02:58 PM |
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That you can't own up to being wrong means you can't control your emotions. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 02:59 PM |
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Never with the venom. Head shaking and ribbing type stuff only |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-11-10 10:52 PM |
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The curtain has been pulled aside |
Mimosa |
Aug-11-10 06:16 AM |
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Why don't they do it more with Republicans instead of all this "bi-partisan" crap? |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-11-10 06:33 AM |
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Not when they don't speak back to their real enemies. |
harun |
Aug-11-10 06:34 AM |
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They slam and call out Republicans all the time. You just don't pay attention. |
phleshdef |
Aug-11-10 09:07 AM |
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I agree - but I still don't think it was a good idea. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-11-10 08:22 AM |
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K and R. |
Kdillard |
Aug-11-10 08:36 AM |
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Too bad they didn't have the guts to fight back against the Republicans that were constantly |
JoeyT |
Aug-11-10 09:19 AM |
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Maybe if they got any indication that progressives would stop bitchin and moaning all the time about |
ncteechur |
Aug-11-10 09:43 PM |
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I agree. I get tired of negativity on our side. Some very sparingly hand out praise. And |
felinetta |
Aug-11-10 10:44 AM |
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His statements are the worst possible move at the worst possible time for Obama. |
niceypoo |
Aug-11-10 11:57 AM |
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Thank you for this |
Nancy Waterman |
Aug-11-10 10:23 PM |
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Bring. It. On. The White House will get it back at them far worse than they can deal it out. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-11-10 10:34 PM |
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So when Obama said... |
joe black |
Aug-12-10 09:11 AM |
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Then Obama shouldn't be asking the base to hold his feet to the fire if he didn't mean it. |
jillan |
Aug-12-10 09:54 AM |
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Disagree. |
closeupready |
Aug-12-10 09:57 AM |
#179 |