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Sat Aug-07-10 05:36 AM
Response to Reply #12 |
| 33. Obama campaigned on a public option and no mandate. |
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Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 05:49 AM by No Elephants
He gave us the opposite, the worst of all health insurance worlds.
Besides, as long as an affordable public option is in the picture (or very meaningful cost controls), a mandate is a very different issue. Medicare has a mandate that seems to trouble no one.
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| -Think Progress: Howard Dean Launches Misguided Attack On Health Reform |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 03:23 PM |
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Without a pubic option, however... |
derby378 |
Aug-06-10 03:34 PM |
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ding, ding, ding....we have a winner! |
bluethruandthru |
Aug-08-10 10:41 AM |
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I Trust Gov. Dean, Not Dem Party Leadership Figures. |
justinaforjustice |
Aug-06-10 03:37 PM |
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Dean's 2004 health care plan sucked, so it's not a given that he is a |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 03:40 PM |
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He wrote a book on it and more than qualifies as a wonk on the subject. See Reply 35. |
No Elephants |
Aug-07-10 05:32 AM |
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Incredbile nice work in debunking this quickly! |
karynnj |
Aug-06-10 03:47 PM |
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I remain unconvinced |
zipplewrath |
Aug-06-10 04:12 PM |
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This isn't convincing either |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 04:20 PM |
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It is the comparison |
zipplewrath |
Aug-07-10 12:36 PM |
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Though the public option could have been a veryt transformative feature it was in no way the only |
karynnj |
Aug-08-10 12:26 PM |
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What we need is national healthcare - not insurance |
askeptic |
Aug-06-10 04:16 PM |
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Before the bill we were 37th in healthcare in the world |
niceypoo |
Aug-07-10 09:47 AM |
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That is all the evidence required. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-08-10 03:17 AM |
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Very little has been implemented and no new assessments of our healthcare system |
karynnj |
Aug-08-10 12:27 PM |
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+1 |
area51 |
Aug-07-10 11:55 AM |
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unrecommended |
inna |
Aug-06-10 04:17 PM |
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What a detailed response. My rebuttal |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 04:21 PM |
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Dean RRRAWWWXXXXX, his opponents suck, and that's the end of it. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-06-10 04:33 PM |
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This is fucking hilarious. One of the only reasons Obama, and not Hillary, got my vote was ........ |
Exilednight |
Aug-06-10 05:10 PM |
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This is the perfect example of what's wrong with the argument |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 05:26 PM |
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This is the perfect example of what's wrong with this argument ............ |
Exilednight |
Aug-06-10 05:43 PM |
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"The fact is, this bill as is will not get us anywhere near 95%." |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 05:46 PM |
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Why am I upset? It's quite simple .............. |
Exilednight |
Aug-06-10 05:57 PM |
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"We'll be lucky if we hit 80%" |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 06:07 PM |
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How many have health adequate health insurance? |
Exilednight |
Aug-06-10 06:36 PM |
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Obama campaigned on a public option and no mandate. |
No Elephants |
Aug-07-10 05:36 AM |
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He did not campaign on a public option. He campaigned on a "pool" |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-07-10 04:44 PM |
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It was no less necessary during the primaries |
dsc |
Aug-06-10 05:53 PM |
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Hmmm? |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 06:05 PM |
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actually hers was coupled with a public option |
dsc |
Aug-06-10 06:12 PM |
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So was Obama's, and |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 06:30 PM |
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No it wasn't |
dsc |
Aug-06-10 07:37 PM |
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Yes, it was. |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 07:39 PM |
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it most surely does |
dsc |
Aug-06-10 07:43 PM |
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Again: |
ProSense |
Aug-06-10 07:46 PM |
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good |
ibegurpard |
Aug-06-10 06:32 PM |
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Go mandate! and try to smear Dean! |
depakid |
Aug-06-10 07:24 PM |
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Hopefully they can get the mandate on the ballot in CA |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 07:49 PM |
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I wouldn't expect this corporate friendly Supreme Court |
ibegurpard |
Aug-06-10 07:51 PM |
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I never much cared for the mandate. |
John Agar |
Aug-06-10 08:49 PM |
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Massachusetts has Romneycare, as the quote you provided proves. |
No Elephants |
Aug-07-10 05:23 AM |
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Howard Dean is a doctor. |
cornermouse |
Aug-07-10 05:40 AM |
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Yep A doctor who wrote a book on the subect and governed a state for 6 terms, among other things. |
No Elephants |
Aug-07-10 06:24 AM |
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Yep. |
cornermouse |
Aug-07-10 08:28 AM |
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Rand Paul is a doctor too. |
bornskeptic |
Aug-08-10 07:17 AM |
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Rand Paul is a libertarian. |
cornermouse |
Aug-08-10 10:33 AM |
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"Mass has the lowest uninsured rate in the country!!" Oh, goody -- it also has the highest premiums |
brentspeak |
Aug-07-10 08:43 AM |
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Yep. Because contrary to popular belief here health insurance isn't "just like" auto insurance. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-07-10 02:02 PM |
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and there are alternatives to automobiles |
ibegurpard |
Aug-07-10 02:06 PM |
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It also has the highest or near highest cost of living |
karynnj |
Aug-08-10 12:34 PM |
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this hyperbole is unusual for Think Progress |
Enrique |
Aug-07-10 10:20 AM |
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It's not hyperbole, and |
ProSense |
Aug-07-10 02:05 PM |
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Obama opposed the mandates during the primaries |
Enrique |
Aug-08-10 01:13 PM |
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The mandates were declaired a failure in the primaries and that |
w4rma |
Aug-08-10 03:21 AM |
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I love Howard Dean.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-08-10 07:40 AM |
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