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Wed Aug-04-10 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 21. Actually that same argument was used by RW power plays to deny gay marriage. So yeah, it's RW. n/t |
| -I have one concern with the Prop. 8 decision. |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 09:44 PM |
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Is there a secular interest in allowing |
BootinUp |
Aug-04-10 09:46 PM |
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Interesting. I will take some time to read the entire decision at some point. |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 09:52 PM |
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My understanding is that |
BootinUp |
Aug-04-10 09:57 PM |
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Thanks for your further response. |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 10:02 PM |
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It is just the opposite. |
seattleblue |
Aug-04-10 10:53 PM |
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Let the polygmists fight their own battles. We're talking about who is in a marriage, not how many. |
Kerrytravelers |
Aug-04-10 09:49 PM |
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Bingo ... let them make their case. |
JoePhilly |
Aug-05-10 03:09 PM |
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I don't have a problem with Polygamy or Polyandry |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-04-10 09:51 PM |
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I anticipated the "none of my business" responses, like yours. |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 09:57 PM |
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are you willing to give up your civil rights until we vote on them? |
CreekDog |
Aug-05-10 01:22 PM |
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The point is I don't care what society at large is for or against. |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-05-10 02:50 PM |
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Total BS. |
JoePhilly |
Aug-05-10 03:26 PM |
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I have a problem with both as I think it harms the fabric of society |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 10:00 AM |
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It exists right now and doesn't harm society. |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 11:04 AM |
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Much like with other society based issues...The problem is with the degree |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 11:14 AM |
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Theft has an actual victim |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 11:30 AM |
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Then drug use |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 11:43 AM |
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EXACT same connections if you want to make it. |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 12:31 PM |
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Sorry, there are facts that do not bare out your conclusions |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 01:18 PM |
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Your made up facts are not that impressive. |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 01:35 PM |
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Here is your starter education pack. |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 01:51 PM |
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Any other nonsense you would like to share? |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 02:09 PM |
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Well, we can start by correcting your terminology |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 02:35 PM |
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Still dipping it in wrong sauce, eh? |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 02:44 PM |
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You have my facts and none of your own |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 02:49 PM |
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What FACTS? |
Milo_Bloom |
Aug-06-10 02:59 PM |
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so what if he does? |
dsc |
Aug-04-10 09:56 PM |
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jesus christ, RW talking points. |
dionysus |
Aug-04-10 09:57 PM |
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BS. An intellectually lazy reply. |
seattleblue |
Aug-04-10 10:57 PM |
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Actually that same argument was used by RW power plays to deny gay marriage. So yeah, it's RW. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-04-10 10:59 PM |
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So if a RWer says the sun rises in the East |
seattleblue |
Aug-04-10 11:20 PM |
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Actually in the argument used by Holder's people to defend DOMA or DADT |
vaberella |
Aug-05-10 09:14 AM |
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So you have no legal argument against the position? |
seattleblue |
Aug-05-10 11:05 AM |
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I never suggested that I had a legal argument. |
vaberella |
Aug-05-10 07:34 PM |
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giving credence to RW talking points is a waste of intellectual energy |
mkultra |
Aug-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Yep d, and the OP must mention BESTIALITY too!! nt |
caledesi |
Aug-05-10 12:06 AM |
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Clergy need permission from the states to marry someone. |
LiberalFighter |
Aug-04-10 09:58 PM |
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Apples and Oranges: Polygamy and Gay Marriage |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-04-10 10:06 PM |
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Thank you. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-04-10 10:09 PM |
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My pleasure. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-04-10 10:25 PM |
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Thank you for your posting and link! This makes a lot of sense. |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 10:17 PM |
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I didn't read the comments. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-04-10 10:23 PM |
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Why on earth would you assume (or state) that |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-05-10 03:55 PM |
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You're right, I'm an asshole. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-05-10 04:41 PM |
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Civil Rights for Blacks and other minorities were moslty won through Courts |
JI7 |
Aug-04-10 10:16 PM |
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The courts are there specifically to protect minorities |
ruggerson |
Aug-04-10 10:23 PM |
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I don't care if it's the other parties are consent. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-04-10 10:58 PM |
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If he wants to have four wives, and his four wives him, who are we to stop them? |
LittleBlue |
Aug-04-10 11:02 PM |
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As I said to someone else upthread, |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 11:20 PM |
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You're bringing in the philosophy of "nature"? You serious? |
LittleBlue |
Aug-04-10 11:30 PM |
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I only brought up "nature" to say that there is a 1 to 1 ratio of men to women in the population -- |
smalll |
Aug-04-10 11:33 PM |
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So what? That's genetics, not a female entity named "nature." |
LittleBlue |
Aug-04-10 11:37 PM |
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Ugh, read a little anthropology before you make sweeping statements, please. |
Ignis |
Aug-05-10 12:35 PM |
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I was already half aware of what you mention -- |
smalll |
Aug-05-10 08:27 PM |
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No, pair-bonding remains the norm, outside societal pressures to the contrary. |
Ignis |
Aug-05-10 08:43 PM |
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Well, that's good news then! |
smalll |
Aug-05-10 08:50 PM |
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No, you are incorrect. Again, Anthro 101 here. |
Ignis |
Aug-05-10 09:01 PM |
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LOL - sorry to be a difficult student! |
smalll |
Aug-05-10 09:12 PM |
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Actually, I should apologize. |
Ignis |
Aug-06-10 02:11 PM |
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I wouldn't think that it would be the same precedent |
KingFlorez |
Aug-04-10 11:09 PM |
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Good topic. I see the eventual result of all this |
Hosnon |
Aug-05-10 12:22 AM |
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There probably is no legal ground to stop it. But it goes beyond the marriage aspect. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-05-10 12:32 AM |
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I think you've now touched on exactly why the LDS is fighting so hard on this. |
msanthrope |
Aug-05-10 12:41 AM |
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Arghhh! |
shimmergal |
Aug-05-10 01:03 AM |
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The requirement that a bishop be the husband of one wife was not about polygamy. |
potone |
Aug-05-10 11:53 AM |
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Thanks for your thoughtful response! |
smalll |
Aug-05-10 08:42 PM |
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The State Has A Real Interest In Stopping Polygamy or Polyandry |
Yavin4 |
Aug-05-10 09:38 AM |
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That's an identifiable interest but not a compelling one or a narrowly tailored fix |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Aug-05-10 01:36 PM |
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Well, I can only say that when Canada grew up and recognized equal marriage... |
Spazito |
Aug-05-10 01:15 PM |
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let's vote on your civil rights |
CreekDog |
Aug-05-10 01:19 PM |
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Brown v. Board of Education stirred up trouble, I tell you... |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Aug-05-10 01:35 PM |
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Who cares? There is my intellectually lazy response because |
CBR |
Aug-05-10 03:30 PM |
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I have many concerns with your mental well-being. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Aug-05-10 03:31 PM |
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If you took the time to read the judge's opinion then you would see that |
grantcart |
Aug-05-10 04:00 PM |
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I hate the notion of people voting on the rights of others. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-05-10 04:24 PM |
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When Loving v Virginia made inter racial marriages legal |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-06-10 01:30 PM |
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Slippery slope fallacy |
NMMNG |
Aug-05-10 10:12 PM |
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Well done |
TrogL |
Aug-06-10 01:16 PM |
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A different take |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-06-10 12:59 PM |
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Karl? Grover? |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-06-10 01:23 PM |
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Not this shit again... |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Aug-06-10 01:26 PM |
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I recommend you read the decision. |
onenote |
Aug-06-10 02:26 PM |
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He's welcome to try |
jberryhill |
Aug-06-10 03:06 PM |
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I don't believe that equal rights should be subject to a vote period |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Aug-06-10 03:16 PM |
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Please put me in the "who cares/none of my business camp" |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-06-10 03:51 PM |
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as long as blacks can't marry whites and christians can't marry jews |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-06-10 08:44 PM |
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