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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:21 PM
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30. You must be responding to somebody else
Edited on Sat Jul-31-10 03:24 PM by alcibiades_mystery
Since I don't know what this "We already knew" argument is supposed to be, so I can hardly be grouped with a "crowd" of that name. Likely, their argument is as dumb as the OP.

Zulch, I like you, and think you're generally right about stuff. But this is a deeply stupid argument you're making, and you're holding on to it for pride and lack of self-reflection. Weigh the costs and benefits of the leak in an honest and straightforward way - as you usually do - rather than in this absurd way.
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  -How will the Taliban read the WikiLeak reports if over 90% of them are illiterate? zulchzulu  Jul-30-10 09:39 PM   #0 
  - So...some of them can read?  BootinUp   Jul-30-10 09:41 PM   #1 
  - The real point is the Taliban already know who is talking to the American troops  zulchzulu   Jul-30-10 09:45 PM   #3 
     - Are the known collaborators are still breathing? nt  BootinUp   Jul-30-10 09:51 PM   #5 
     - Your point  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-30-10 10:50 PM   #8 
        - Without seeing the reports, you can't say one way or another what is or is not...  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 11:18 AM   #16 
  - Haven't you heard?  izquierdista   Jul-30-10 09:44 PM   #2 
  - That Taliban leadership are neither stupid nor illiterate...  Ozymanithrax   Jul-30-10 09:47 PM   #4 
  - If I had to guess, I'd say that 10% might read the reports to the other 90%.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-30-10 10:23 PM   #6 
  - My first thought, the 10% read the report and tell the other 90% what to do. nt  tsuki   Jul-31-10 03:19 AM   #10 
  - The word "Taliban" means "student" in Pashtun  seattleblue   Jul-30-10 10:29 PM   #7 
  - Problem is, they are almost solely students of the Koran  Chulanowa   Jul-30-10 11:21 PM   #9 
  - The data includes real names, villages, everything you need to locate them. They're already dying.  Hekate   Jul-31-10 04:34 AM   #12 
     - The reports do not include the real names of informants ............  Exilednight   Jul-31-10 11:36 AM   #18 
        - These are not CIA documents  seattleblue   Jul-31-10 01:01 PM   #23 
           - The CIA is the one who handles informants, not the military. Any name that the military has .......  Exilednight   Jul-31-10 01:58 PM   #24 
              - You hve no idea what you re talking about.  seattleblue   Jul-31-10 03:00 PM   #27 
                 - I;ve read many of the reports, and some are reported by ..............  Exilednight   Jul-31-10 03:58 PM   #33 
                    - Thank you  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 09:23 PM   #37 
  - They're not stupid, and contrary to US propaganda by Bushco, leadership isn't illiterate either  Hekate   Jul-31-10 04:31 AM   #11 
  - And you think the people in charge are not literate.  vaberella   Jul-31-10 05:47 AM   #13 
  - This is the best defenders of wikileaks can do?  NutmegYankee   Jul-31-10 09:24 AM   #14 
  - Defenders of the "We already knew all of this!" want to hide the truth about the war  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 11:26 AM   #17 
     - Nice Strawmen  NutmegYankee   Jul-31-10 12:29 PM   #20 
        - So if we already know it's f*cked up, we should stay and continue f*cking it up?  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 02:47 PM   #25 
           - Point out where I said we should stay!  NutmegYankee   Jul-31-10 03:18 PM   #29 
              - It's a red herring  Sheepshank   Jul-31-10 03:41 PM   #31 
              - It has to be put in local context  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-31-10 03:54 PM   #32 
              - ITA n/t  Sheepshank   Jul-31-10 04:03 PM   #34 
              - I know.  NutmegYankee   Jul-31-10 04:28 PM   #35 
              - I merely suggested you don't think the truth about the war should be out there  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 09:30 PM   #38 
  - If those who support the leaks argue that the repercussions are worth it. Then fine.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Jul-31-10 11:14 AM   #15 
  - Exactly right - the defenders can't even identify the only argument worth a damn  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-31-10 12:07 PM   #19 
     - The "We Already Knew" Crowd wants to hide the truth about the war's disastrous mission  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 02:51 PM   #26 
        - You must be responding to somebody else  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-31-10 03:21 PM   #30 
           - I've looked at the whole picture and from my angle, the leaks will actually help  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 09:15 PM   #36 
  - Oh well then!  woo me with science   Jul-31-10 12:35 PM   #21 
  - It's amazing how word of mouth works so well  lunatica   Jul-31-10 12:40 PM   #22 
  - Find one of the 10% who can read.  treestar   Jul-31-10 03:16 PM   #28 
  - Even US military experts find the leaked documents are mostly bullshit anyway  zulchzulu   Jul-31-10 10:17 PM   #39 
  - I think they only need one person who is literate to do the job....(nt)  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jul-31-10 10:20 PM   #40 
 

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