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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:12 AM
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67. Define "disadvantaged"
I did not change the number the number of slots, which is clear if you re-read the post.

I'm a woman I apologize for calling you a smart guy. You are a smart person.

argument still cannot be made that whites are disadvantaged. Four individual white persons were "disadvantaged" in the theoretical example, because they were disqualified based on race not objective measure. (Maybe we should level-set on the definition of "disadvantaged" versus "discriminated".)

You keep talking about blacks in terms of being less qualified I find your insinuation deeply offensive. In the example some were more qualified, some less. Just as in life. That was a low blow. You're better than that.


We're on the same side. I hate racism and want healing. I hope we get there in our lifetimes! :hug:

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  -This is why Jim Webb's article is completely off base ProSense  Jul-24-10 11:36 AM   #0 
  - K&R nt  CBR   Jul-24-10 11:41 AM   #1 
  - I'm pissed at him. I donated and supported his candidacy and he reverts back to a Repuke. rec'd  williesgirl   Jul-24-10 12:03 PM   #2 
  - For all the criticism the President gets for latching onto deficit talk,  ProSense   Jul-24-10 01:09 PM   #13 
  - Wow, Webb's article is nuts!  sandnsea   Jul-24-10 12:10 PM   #3 
  - It's teabagger fear  ProSense   Jul-24-10 12:40 PM   #7 
  - not a huge fan of race-based affirmative action  Unsane   Jul-24-10 12:13 PM   #4 
  - The fact remains  many a good man   Jul-24-10 12:19 PM   #5 
  - "Any anti-discrimination statute is, by its very nature, discriminatory. " Really?  ProSense   Jul-24-10 12:23 PM   #6 
  - Words have meanings  many a good man   Jul-24-10 12:56 PM   #10 
     - "The fact some whites are passed over on school admissions or jobs"  ProSense   Jul-24-10 01:03 PM   #12 
        - You really believe whites have never been passed over?  many a good man   Jul-24-10 01:39 PM   #15 
           - Do you really believe that changes the fact  ProSense   Jul-24-10 01:47 PM   #16 
              - You are totally missing the point!  many a good man   Jul-24-10 01:56 PM   #17 
                 - Really, then maybe you're not making it clearly enough  ProSense   Jul-24-10 02:01 PM   #18 
                    - Yep, his "WASP elites" comment was a real WTF moment for me...  Spazito   Jul-24-10 03:24 PM   #20 
                    - Not a single WASP in WH or USSC  many a good man   Jul-24-10 03:26 PM   #21 
                       - Oh brother.  ProSense   Jul-24-10 03:30 PM   #22 
                       - Small business statistics  ProSense   Jul-24-10 04:27 PM   #24 
                          - +1  CBR   Jul-24-10 04:33 PM   #25 
                          - You're still missing the point, I think.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 05:19 PM   #26 
                             - Well,  ProSense   Jul-24-10 05:36 PM   #29 
                                - To answer...  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 06:33 PM   #35 
                                   - "Preferences for people of color may deny poor white workers opportunities"  ProSense   Jul-24-10 06:45 PM   #42 
                                      - You're still missing the point.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 06:55 PM   #43 
                                      - I understand what you're saying, I just disagree  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:08 PM   #45 
                                         - Oh. My. God.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 07:17 PM   #48 
                                            - OMG?  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:25 PM   #49 
                                               - OMG -- You can't be serious.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 07:30 PM   #50 
                                               - "Poor people of all stripes need opportunity, raising questions about preferences for wealthier..."  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:39 PM   #51 
                                               - Yes, yes, and yes.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 07:44 PM   #52 
                                               - "Preferences for people of color may deny poor white workers opportunities,"  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:52 PM   #55 
                                               - I'll explain again.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 08:04 PM   #56 
                                               - What?  ProSense   Jul-24-10 08:25 PM   #58 
                                               - ...  CBR   Jul-24-10 08:39 PM   #59 
                                      - You are thinking Macro when people live in the Micro  many a good man   Jul-24-10 06:57 PM   #44 
                                         - "It's entirely possible an individual might get screwed  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:16 PM   #46 
                                         - So the question is, are we going to give up the programs  CBR   Jul-24-10 07:16 PM   #47 
  - No no no, it has to do with the size of the pool  sandnsea   Jul-24-10 02:44 PM   #19 
     - Bingo!  Drunken Irishman   Jul-24-10 05:25 PM   #27 
     - To further your point, sand...  Drunken Irishman   Jul-24-10 06:14 PM   #31 
     - Tell that to the marginal white kid  many a good man   Jul-24-10 06:39 PM   #39 
        - "before the screeners looked at race"  sandnsea   Jul-24-10 07:45 PM   #53 
        - Oh my  ProSense   Jul-24-10 07:45 PM   #54 
           - I never argued that we should end affirmative action  many a good man   Jul-24-10 08:44 PM   #60 
              - "You have denied that some whites can be adversely affected by racial preferences " And  ProSense   Jul-24-10 08:57 PM   #61 
                 - For there to be healing, there has to be understanding  many a good man   Jul-25-10 10:20 PM   #63 
                    - First of all,  ProSense   Jul-25-10 10:30 PM   #64 
                       - "a disadvantage for whites "  many a good man   Jul-26-10 12:03 AM   #65 
                          - Maybe you should stop  ProSense   Jul-26-10 12:21 AM   #66 
                             - Define "disadvantaged"  many a good man   Jul-26-10 01:12 AM   #67 
                                - You know,  ProSense   Jul-26-10 01:33 AM   #68 
  - what is fascinating is that many believe discussing race is a  CBR   Jul-24-10 12:43 PM   #8 
  - And a lot of people bought into it. n/t  ProSense   Jul-24-10 12:52 PM   #9 
  - Well said! I agree n/t  Spazito   Jul-24-10 01:02 PM   #11 
  - I can understand the "race distracts from class" thing historically  Recursion   Jul-24-10 04:22 PM   #23 
  - BINGO! So many do that right here on DU  Number23   Jul-24-10 06:45 PM   #41 
  - Bob Herbert  ProSense   Jul-24-10 01:33 PM   #14 
  - There you go again.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 05:28 PM   #28 
  - Who said that?  ProSense   Jul-24-10 05:39 PM   #30 
     - I'll try again.  Sparkly   Jul-24-10 06:35 PM   #37 
  - "He thinks whites are suffering"  Oregone   Jul-24-10 11:56 PM   #62 
  - If  LatteLibertine   Jul-24-10 06:22 PM   #32 
  - The timing of Webb's commentary  ProSense   Jul-24-10 06:29 PM   #33 
  - Being honest about the disadvantages minorities face in this  CBR   Jul-24-10 06:30 PM   #34 
     - I understand the truth of the situation  LatteLibertine   Jul-24-10 06:33 PM   #36 
        - Well I am not going to sell out minority voters to appease whites. nt  CBR   Jul-24-10 06:37 PM   #38 
           - I'm not talking about  LatteLibertine   Jul-24-10 06:41 PM   #40 
  - Depends. We know which base he's pandering to here. n/t  Orsino   Jul-24-10 08:14 PM   #57 
  - I'm rooting for true ethnic diversity  howaboutme   Jul-26-10 05:25 PM   #69 
 

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