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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #81
94. Unfortunately
sense is far from common in these parts and when it does show up it gets labeled and pigeon holed.

I just wish we could get to the root of the problem causing such a lack of sense (common or otherwise) around here.
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  -Perspectives on the President scheming daemons  Jul-22-10 12:48 PM   #0 
  - i think he's pushing through his centrist agenda  Enrique   Jul-22-10 12:52 PM   #1 
  - +1  DJ13   Jul-22-10 12:56 PM   #4 
  - We need 30 years of hard left ideology just to balance out the last 30 years of bullshit.  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-22-10 01:47 PM   #52 
  - The longer we wait  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:54 PM   #55 
     - Hey man, The Dems are going to "fix it later."  bvar22   Jul-22-10 02:43 PM   #78 
  - The large majorities in Congress are not all Progressive, however.  Jennicut   Jul-22-10 02:20 PM   #66 
  - We have a large majority if you count our right-of-center Democrats.  LiberalAndProud   Jul-23-10 11:07 AM   #108 
  - You're right  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 12:53 PM   #2 
  - Why does your list not include green jobs and energy, millions getting healthcare  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:00 PM   #6 
     - Good God...  JuniperLea   Jul-22-10 01:03 PM   #8 
     - Ignorance is bliss  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:04 PM   #10 
     - More like the short list`  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:04 PM   #9 
     - I asked about how completely one sided your list was, not its length  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:05 PM   #12 
     - And I explained  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:09 PM   #19 
        - I find that a realistic person would have a list of positives and negatives  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:10 PM   #22 
           - As I explained  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:16 PM   #26 
              - There are millions who are now getting badly needed health insurance  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:37 PM   #41 
                 - You keep making this claim  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:52 PM   #54 
                    - I liken your position as someone who sees a firemen rush into a burning building  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 02:00 PM   #56 
                       - More like he ran out with the 95 year old guy  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 02:06 PM   #59 
                          - We can work with your 150 babies anology  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 02:57 PM   #84 
                             - Except obama changed his position  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 05:45 PM   #100 
     - "the smallest of minutia" ?  janx   Jul-22-10 01:06 PM   #13 
        - In some respects  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:08 PM   #18 
           - So being steadfast means that he is unstrong?  janx   Jul-22-10 01:19 PM   #30 
              - Steadfast is when he IS "strong"  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:28 PM   #33 
     - It's not healthcare, it's health insurance  derby378   Jul-22-10 05:50 PM   #101 
  - Centrists problem - demonizing both right and left.  VMI Dem   Jul-22-10 12:55 PM   #3 
  - Brilliant!  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:06 PM   #15 
  - Standing for nothing is the new cool thing to do  Oregone   Jul-22-10 01:35 PM   #39 
     - Standing for nothing is pragmatically sensible. n/t  QC   Jul-22-10 05:14 PM   #99 
  - Error:  LWolf   Jul-22-10 12:57 PM   #5 
  - "WE"  JuniperLea   Jul-22-10 01:02 PM   #7 
  - ^^^^What she said.  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 01:05 PM   #11 
  - Of course not.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:12 PM   #24 
  - I see the problem. You are using the word left when you actually are meaning  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:41 PM   #47 
  - No. I'm meaning "leftist."  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:42 PM   #49 
     - I prefer the term liberal or even better progressive (I like the progress implication)  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:43 PM   #50 
        - I use the term "leftist"  LWolf   Jul-22-10 02:09 PM   #60 
           - I tend to worry far less about labels and more about getting things done  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 07:55 AM   #106 
              - Let me know when you manage to get  LWolf   Jul-23-10 10:00 AM   #107 
                 - I'll be sure to wake you up when we're finished  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 11:38 AM   #109 
                    - You won't be able to.  LWolf   Jul-23-10 11:49 AM   #111 
  - I'm so far left, I'm off the chart...  JuniperLea   Jul-22-10 03:07 PM   #86 
     - So you are one  LWolf   Jul-22-10 03:55 PM   #89 
        - How smart or not you think it is...  JuniperLea   Jul-22-10 04:22 PM   #93 
           - Telling of me, lol.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 04:54 PM   #97 
              - Point of fact Rahm didn't call all liberals "retarded" only those  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 11:40 AM   #110 
                 - Point of fact my ass.  LWolf   Jul-23-10 11:52 AM   #112 
                    - I am glad you now see your error  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 11:54 AM   #113 
                       - .  LWolf   Jul-23-10 11:58 AM   #114 
                          - Is that you way of admitting your mistake?  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 11:59 AM   #115 
                             - No, it's my way  LWolf   Jul-23-10 01:06 PM   #117 
                                - So pointing out the factual errors in your posts  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 01:11 PM   #118 
                                   - No, inaccurately attempting  LWolf   Jul-23-10 01:17 PM   #119 
                                      - You incorrectly claimed that Rahm called all liberals "retarded"  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 01:19 PM   #120 
                                         - No. I accurately claimed that Rahm called  LWolf   Jul-23-10 01:23 PM   #121 
                                            - So you claim qualifiers that didn't exist in the original and a nonstandard use  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 01:29 PM   #122 
                                               - I'm not stretching.  LWolf   Jul-23-10 01:35 PM   #123 
  - He can sure as fuck speak for me.  Forkboy   Jul-22-10 01:34 PM   #37 
  - That's fine with me...  JuniperLea   Jul-22-10 02:56 PM   #83 
  - Indeed.  Bobbie Jo   Jul-22-10 02:28 PM   #69 
  - Please don't speak for me either  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:06 PM   #14 
  - Of course not.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:07 PM   #16 
     - Well now you are wrong twice, first you were wrong to presume you could speak for those of us on the  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:09 PM   #20 
     - You're not on the left of him  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:11 PM   #23 
     - How would YOU know? Do you have some kind of "list?"  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 01:13 PM   #25 
     - Judge and jury?  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:17 PM   #28 
     - Seeing how you consider millions of people getting desperately needed insurance "minutia"  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:38 PM   #42 
        - Millions who already qualified  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 01:51 PM   #53 
           - Those with preexisting conditions did not qualify  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 02:03 PM   #58 
              - And many still don't  zipplewrath   Jul-22-10 02:09 PM   #61 
     - Okay.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:20 PM   #31 
     - Your opinion matters why?  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 01:10 PM   #21 
     - It matters as much as the opinion of any other.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:16 PM   #27 
        - The problem was you expressed your opinion as representing all of us on the left  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:33 PM   #35 
        - "All of us on the left."  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:40 PM   #45 
        - But it's just not your call to decide who is or isn't "on the left." People here have  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 02:25 PM   #68 
           - Of course I'm not.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 03:53 PM   #88 
              - Very true.  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 04:02 PM   #91 
     - I don't consider you "the left" either  Uzybone   Jul-22-10 02:00 PM   #57 
     - What do you consider me?  LWolf   Jul-22-10 02:09 PM   #62 
     - I don't consider you to be  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:43 PM   #79 
        - Good thing,  LWolf   Jul-22-10 03:51 PM   #87 
  - I don't want a cartoon beaver wearing glasses speaking  janx   Jul-22-10 01:08 PM   #17 
  - Oh, but he speaks so sensibly.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:19 PM   #29 
     - Of course!  janx   Jul-22-10 01:22 PM   #32 
     - That would be a strawman, not a woodchuck  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:40 PM   #44 
        - Chuckles certainly is a strawman. nt  LWolf   Jul-22-10 01:41 PM   #48 
  - We think you don't speak  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:20 PM   #65 
     - Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 02:32 PM   #71 
     - Speak for yourself!  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:39 PM   #76 
        - LOL!  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 02:48 PM   #80 
     - I don't, of course.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 04:06 PM   #92 
        - It was a sarcasm  POAS   Jul-22-10 04:34 PM   #96 
           - I've had a great day, thanks.  LWolf   Jul-22-10 05:00 PM   #98 
              - Your welcome.  POAS   Jul-22-10 06:31 PM   #103 
  - Perspective.... President... on DU....  Davis_X_Machina   Jul-22-10 01:31 PM   #34 
  - I think this thread has legs.  janx   Jul-22-10 01:34 PM   #38 
  - Oh, but Im sure *you* are right....  Oregone   Jul-22-10 01:34 PM   #36 
  - What makes you think the person  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:23 PM   #67 
     - When demeaning two groups and lauding the stand-for-nothing center...  Oregone   Jul-22-10 02:32 PM   #70 
        - Keep defining by your own perceptions  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:37 PM   #75 
        - I plan on it.  Oregone   Jul-22-10 02:56 PM   #82 
        - It's demeaning overreactions coming from both ends of the political spectrum.  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 02:53 PM   #81 
           - Unfortunately  POAS   Jul-22-10 04:26 PM   #94 
              - So would I. I'd like to get past hysterical reactions and instead get the facts  DevonRex   Jul-22-10 04:32 PM   #95 
  - Wow, that's deep.  Forkboy   Jul-22-10 01:35 PM   #40 
  - You response or the OP?  NJmaverick   Jul-22-10 01:39 PM   #43 
  - The OP reads like a poor man's fortune cookie.  Forkboy   Jul-22-10 01:44 PM   #51 
     - LOL  Oregone   Jul-22-10 02:32 PM   #72 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-22-10 02:35 PM   #74 
  - The canal?  HughMoran   Jul-22-10 02:12 PM   #63 
  - Somewhere between the two lies the truth, to paraphrase the saying. n/t  CakeGrrl   Jul-22-10 01:40 PM   #46 
  - +1  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-22-10 02:15 PM   #64 
  - +2  POAS   Jul-22-10 02:42 PM   #77 
  - Dem Presidents always have to hold onto that coalition of liberal, moderate and centrist Dems.  Jennicut   Jul-22-10 02:35 PM   #73 
  - There is a problem with your premise.  bvar22   Jul-22-10 02:59 PM   #85 
  - There is nothing "Centrist" about pushing policies that only help the ultra rich/monopolies.  grahamhgreen   Jul-22-10 03:56 PM   #90 
     - How does your narrative fit with this?  BootinUp   Jul-22-10 05:58 PM   #102 
     - Like this..  grahamhgreen   Jul-22-10 08:41 PM   #104 
        - And the failed narrative continues!  BootinUp   Jul-22-10 08:45 PM   #105 
     - If what you said was actually true the Republicans would be helping  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 12:04 PM   #116 
 

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