NJmaverick
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Thu Jul-22-10 01:00 PM
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| 6. Why does your list not include green jobs and energy, millions getting healthcare |
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Wall Street getting regulated and consumers being protected? Why is your list so one sided?
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| -Perspectives on the President |
scheming daemons |
Jul-22-10 12:48 PM |
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i think he's pushing through his centrist agenda |
Enrique |
Jul-22-10 12:52 PM |
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+1 |
DJ13 |
Jul-22-10 12:56 PM |
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We need 30 years of hard left ideology just to balance out the last 30 years of bullshit. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jul-22-10 01:47 PM |
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The longer we wait |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:54 PM |
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Hey man, The Dems are going to "fix it later." |
bvar22 |
Jul-22-10 02:43 PM |
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The large majorities in Congress are not all Progressive, however. |
Jennicut |
Jul-22-10 02:20 PM |
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We have a large majority if you count our right-of-center Democrats. |
LiberalAndProud |
Jul-23-10 11:07 AM |
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You're right |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 12:53 PM |
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Why does your list not include green jobs and energy, millions getting healthcare |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:00 PM |
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Good God... |
JuniperLea |
Jul-22-10 01:03 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:04 PM |
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More like the short list` |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:04 PM |
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I asked about how completely one sided your list was, not its length |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:05 PM |
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And I explained |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:09 PM |
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I find that a realistic person would have a list of positives and negatives |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:10 PM |
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As I explained |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:16 PM |
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There are millions who are now getting badly needed health insurance |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:37 PM |
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You keep making this claim |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:52 PM |
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I liken your position as someone who sees a firemen rush into a burning building |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 02:00 PM |
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More like he ran out with the 95 year old guy |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 02:06 PM |
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We can work with your 150 babies anology |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 02:57 PM |
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Except obama changed his position |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 05:45 PM |
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"the smallest of minutia" ? |
janx |
Jul-22-10 01:06 PM |
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In some respects |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:08 PM |
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So being steadfast means that he is unstrong? |
janx |
Jul-22-10 01:19 PM |
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Steadfast is when he IS "strong" |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:28 PM |
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It's not healthcare, it's health insurance |
derby378 |
Jul-22-10 05:50 PM |
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Centrists problem - demonizing both right and left. |
VMI Dem |
Jul-22-10 12:55 PM |
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Brilliant! |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:06 PM |
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Standing for nothing is the new cool thing to do |
Oregone |
Jul-22-10 01:35 PM |
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Standing for nothing is pragmatically sensible. n/t |
QC |
Jul-22-10 05:14 PM |
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Error: |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 12:57 PM |
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"WE" |
JuniperLea |
Jul-22-10 01:02 PM |
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^^^^What she said. |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 01:05 PM |
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Of course not. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:12 PM |
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I see the problem. You are using the word left when you actually are meaning |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:41 PM |
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No. I'm meaning "leftist." |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:42 PM |
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I prefer the term liberal or even better progressive (I like the progress implication) |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:43 PM |
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I use the term "leftist" |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 02:09 PM |
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I tend to worry far less about labels and more about getting things done |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 07:55 AM |
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Let me know when you manage to get |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 10:00 AM |
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I'll be sure to wake you up when we're finished |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 11:38 AM |
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You won't be able to. |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 11:49 AM |
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I'm so far left, I'm off the chart... |
JuniperLea |
Jul-22-10 03:07 PM |
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So you are one |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 03:55 PM |
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How smart or not you think it is... |
JuniperLea |
Jul-22-10 04:22 PM |
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Telling of me, lol. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 04:54 PM |
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Point of fact Rahm didn't call all liberals "retarded" only those |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 11:40 AM |
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Point of fact my ass. |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 11:52 AM |
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I am glad you now see your error |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 11:54 AM |
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. |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 11:58 AM |
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Is that you way of admitting your mistake? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 11:59 AM |
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No, it's my way |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 01:06 PM |
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So pointing out the factual errors in your posts |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 01:11 PM |
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No, inaccurately attempting |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 01:17 PM |
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You incorrectly claimed that Rahm called all liberals "retarded" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 01:19 PM |
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No. I accurately claimed that Rahm called |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 01:23 PM |
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So you claim qualifiers that didn't exist in the original and a nonstandard use |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 01:29 PM |
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I'm not stretching. |
LWolf |
Jul-23-10 01:35 PM |
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He can sure as fuck speak for me. |
Forkboy |
Jul-22-10 01:34 PM |
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That's fine with me... |
JuniperLea |
Jul-22-10 02:56 PM |
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Indeed. |
Bobbie Jo |
Jul-22-10 02:28 PM |
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Please don't speak for me either |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:06 PM |
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Of course not. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:07 PM |
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Well now you are wrong twice, first you were wrong to presume you could speak for those of us on the |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:09 PM |
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You're not on the left of him |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:11 PM |
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How would YOU know? Do you have some kind of "list?" |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 01:13 PM |
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Judge and jury? |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:17 PM |
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Seeing how you consider millions of people getting desperately needed insurance "minutia" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:38 PM |
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Millions who already qualified |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 01:51 PM |
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Those with preexisting conditions did not qualify |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 02:03 PM |
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And many still don't |
zipplewrath |
Jul-22-10 02:09 PM |
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Okay. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:20 PM |
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Your opinion matters why? |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 01:10 PM |
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It matters as much as the opinion of any other. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:16 PM |
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The problem was you expressed your opinion as representing all of us on the left |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:33 PM |
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"All of us on the left." |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:40 PM |
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But it's just not your call to decide who is or isn't "on the left." People here have |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 02:25 PM |
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Of course I'm not. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 03:53 PM |
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Very true. |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 04:02 PM |
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I don't consider you "the left" either |
Uzybone |
Jul-22-10 02:00 PM |
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What do you consider me? |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 02:09 PM |
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I don't consider you to be |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:43 PM |
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Good thing, |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 03:51 PM |
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I don't want a cartoon beaver wearing glasses speaking |
janx |
Jul-22-10 01:08 PM |
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Oh, but he speaks so sensibly. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:19 PM |
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Of course! |
janx |
Jul-22-10 01:22 PM |
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That would be a strawman, not a woodchuck |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:40 PM |
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Chuckles certainly is a strawman. nt |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 01:41 PM |
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We think you don't speak |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:20 PM |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you. |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 02:32 PM |
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Speak for yourself! |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:39 PM |
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LOL! |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 02:48 PM |
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I don't, of course. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 04:06 PM |
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It was a sarcasm |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 04:34 PM |
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I've had a great day, thanks. |
LWolf |
Jul-22-10 05:00 PM |
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Your welcome. |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 06:31 PM |
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Perspective.... President... on DU.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jul-22-10 01:31 PM |
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I think this thread has legs. |
janx |
Jul-22-10 01:34 PM |
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Oh, but Im sure *you* are right.... |
Oregone |
Jul-22-10 01:34 PM |
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What makes you think the person |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:23 PM |
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When demeaning two groups and lauding the stand-for-nothing center... |
Oregone |
Jul-22-10 02:32 PM |
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Keep defining by your own perceptions |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:37 PM |
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I plan on it. |
Oregone |
Jul-22-10 02:56 PM |
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It's demeaning overreactions coming from both ends of the political spectrum. |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 02:53 PM |
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Unfortunately |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 04:26 PM |
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So would I. I'd like to get past hysterical reactions and instead get the facts |
DevonRex |
Jul-22-10 04:32 PM |
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Wow, that's deep. |
Forkboy |
Jul-22-10 01:35 PM |
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You response or the OP? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-22-10 01:39 PM |
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The OP reads like a poor man's fortune cookie. |
Forkboy |
Jul-22-10 01:44 PM |
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LOL |
Oregone |
Jul-22-10 02:32 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-22-10 02:35 PM |
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The canal? |
HughMoran |
Jul-22-10 02:12 PM |
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Somewhere between the two lies the truth, to paraphrase the saying. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-22-10 01:40 PM |
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+1 |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jul-22-10 02:15 PM |
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+2 |
POAS |
Jul-22-10 02:42 PM |
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Dem Presidents always have to hold onto that coalition of liberal, moderate and centrist Dems. |
Jennicut |
Jul-22-10 02:35 PM |
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There is a problem with your premise. |
bvar22 |
Jul-22-10 02:59 PM |
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There is nothing "Centrist" about pushing policies that only help the ultra rich/monopolies. |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-22-10 03:56 PM |
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How does your narrative fit with this? |
BootinUp |
Jul-22-10 05:58 PM |
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Like this.. |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-22-10 08:41 PM |
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And the failed narrative continues! |
BootinUp |
Jul-22-10 08:45 PM |
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If what you said was actually true the Republicans would be helping |
NJmaverick |
Jul-23-10 12:04 PM |
#116 |
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