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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:29 AM
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35. Um, its no one's talking point. Its just true. Given that, it still should happen.
If the rich have spent nearly a decade paying X% for their taxes and then a tax decrease expires, X% becomes larger, and thus they are now paying more for their taxes then they were for the past decade. Any normal person would feel like thats a tax increase. That isn't a "talking point". Its MATH.

We shouldn't pretend like it isn't a tax increase on the rich. Instead we should whole heartedly defend the notion that rich should pay more.
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  -Dems to Extend Bush's Middle Class Tax Cuts Pirate Smile  Jul-21-10 09:04 AM   #0 
  - Good. nt  BootinUp   Jul-21-10 09:07 AM   #1 
  - Agreed. Aiding small businesses by extending the cuts to them and letting the top cuts lapse is GOOD  glitch   Jul-21-10 10:06 AM   #26 
  - A smart political move, as well. Make R's defend $680 billion cost to extend for top 2% for 10 yrs  flpoljunkie   Jul-21-10 10:07 AM   #28 
     - About those small businesses the R's like to harp would be affected...  flpoljunkie   Jul-21-10 10:19 AM   #32 
  - Goddammit!  Deep13   Jul-21-10 09:08 AM   #2 
  - So you want them to let YOUR taxes go up next year then?  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:17 AM   #31 
  - Yes and yes. nt  Deep13   Jul-21-10 10:54 AM   #38 
     - Well, I don't want my taxes going up one fucking bit.  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 11:13 AM   #39 
        - All in favor of a BIG tax hike for the rich.  Deep13   Jul-21-10 12:46 PM   #47 
  - because adding to the tax burden of lower income americans may not be good economically?  stray cat   Jul-21-10 11:38 AM   #40 
     - Lower than what?  Deep13   Jul-21-10 12:49 PM   #48 
  - Chris Matthews nailed the 3rd GOP House guy - forget his name - about this very thing  Hestia   Jul-21-10 09:11 AM   #3 
  - Why add another few trillions to the debt ?  Mr. Sparkle   Jul-21-10 09:19 AM   #4 
  - So let me get this straight  BootinUp   Jul-21-10 09:25 AM   #7 
     - Can you show me where tax cuts have worked in an economic climate like this?  Mr. Sparkle   Jul-21-10 09:38 AM   #13 
        - I can't do research right now, this debate will get plenty of airing out, I suggest  BootinUp   Jul-21-10 09:44 AM   #17 
  - At what point do we start to raise taxes?  niceypoo   Jul-21-10 09:20 AM   #5 
  - Tax cuts got us where we are today in terms of the deficit  ProSense   Jul-21-10 09:32 AM   #11 
  - I agree, Clinton proved it with his 1993 economic plan  niceypoo   Jul-21-10 09:39 AM   #14 
     - Which is exactly what the OP is saying the Democrats are proposing...  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:11 AM   #29 
        - That is a GOP talking point  niceypoo   Jul-21-10 10:24 AM   #33 
           - Um, its no one's talking point. Its just true. Given that, it still should happen.  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:29 AM   #35 
              - Hear! Hear! nt  BootinUp   Jul-21-10 10:30 AM   #36 
              - We heard it ad nauseum in 2003-2004  niceypoo   Jul-21-10 12:23 PM   #45 
  - on unemployment benefits and below the poverty line?  stray cat   Jul-21-10 11:38 AM   #41 
  - Interesting. From the link to the original article  ProSense   Jul-21-10 09:25 AM   #6 
  - So they cave again, I bet they extend the tax cuts for the  doc03   Jul-21-10 09:26 AM   #8 
  - How is this caving? Obama and Dems always wanted the middle class tax cuts extended and the  Jennicut   Jul-21-10 09:28 AM   #10 
  - On point I bet Dems are going to make - A person making $50,000 in 2000 versus 2010-we've had a  Pirate Smile   Jul-21-10 09:53 AM   #19 
  - So middle class people should have their taxes raised in the middle of a slow recovery?  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:03 AM   #22 
  - Wrong!! Dems have never said they would end tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS!!  Dawgs   Jul-21-10 10:03 AM   #23 
  - Ignorance is really rampant on DU - thanks for a true post!  stray cat   Jul-21-10 11:41 AM   #43 
  - God damn Dems, CAVING to the middle class while shorting those poor rich people.  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:06 AM   #27 
  - Oy vey  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-21-10 10:26 AM   #34 
  - i hope the progressives kill this  Enrique   Jul-21-10 09:26 AM   #9 
  - I don't, and it's likely they will not  ProSense   Jul-21-10 09:37 AM   #12 
  - i don't care about the republicans  Enrique   Jul-21-10 09:39 AM   #15 
     - "we can't freaking AFFORD this."  ProSense   Jul-21-10 09:41 AM   #16 
        - I don't believe it IS a deficit reduction plan  Enrique   Jul-21-10 09:46 AM   #18 
        - You're right, tax increases will not be on the table. Raising taxes on the rich is an easy sell ...  Exilednight   Jul-21-10 09:58 AM   #20 
        - The President has a deficit reduction plan? I am for letting  doc03   Jul-21-10 09:52 PM   #49 
  - Why would progressives want to kill this?  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:01 AM   #21 
  - You're hoping that PROGRESSIVES kill a bill that makes taxes more PROGRESSIVE.  Dawgs   Jul-21-10 10:04 AM   #24 
  - Proof that people are posting shit without even reading what they are replying to.  phleshdef   Jul-21-10 10:06 AM   #25 
     - True, but it is also mind boggling how much wealth is held in the top 2%.  gordianot   Jul-21-10 10:32 AM   #37 
  - Tax the unemployed and those below the poverty line as well - is that better?  stray cat   Jul-21-10 11:41 AM   #44 
  - No surprise!  Born_A_Truman   Jul-21-10 10:14 AM   #30 
  - This is what Obama campaigned on - for anyone who actually listened to what was said and promised  stray cat   Jul-21-10 11:39 AM   #42 
  - I swear some are just people looking for reason to upset  SpartanDem   Jul-21-10 12:36 PM   #46 

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