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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:44 PM
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104. I support primaries against all incumbents
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 01:44 PM by bigwillq
For every office at every level. May the best man or woman win.
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  -A primary challenge "might not be as bad this time as in 1980", it'd be fucking WORSE LaydeeBug  Jul-18-10 08:25 AM   #0 
  - Stupak-style ban from White House  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 08:36 AM   #1 
  - Add eduction to your list  Catshrink   Jul-18-10 08:38 AM   #2 
  - Absolutely, Arne Duncan is a privatizer of education  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 08:45 AM   #6 
  - Education goes in the list of accomplishments  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 08:46 AM   #7 
     - Many of those that voted for Obama have a different point of view  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 08:48 AM   #10 
     - That doesn't change the situation. The President cares about our children's education  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 08:50 AM   #12 
        - Obama taught Constitutional law, yet  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 09:02 AM   #16 
        - The President is following the Constitution he taught  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:05 AM   #19 
           - Really?  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 09:13 AM   #20 
              - please provide some PROOF of at least one specific violation of the Constition  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:18 AM   #21 
                 - Does the Constitution give a President the power to order the assassination of an American citizen?  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 09:32 AM   #24 
                    - You did a bait and switch. You started with one issue  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:49 AM   #25 
                       - Illegal detentions are also unconstitutional, Habeas corpus rings a bell?  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 09:51 AM   #27 
                          - Please provide some specifics as vague charges are difficult to discuss  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:52 AM   #28 
                             - 'Vague charges?' Jos Padilla? Where have you been for the past 9 and a half years?  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 10:02 AM   #30 
                                - Actually that was an example of a President following the Constitution  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 10:05 AM   #31 
                                   - What part of illegal detentions is confusing you? They are called 'illegal' because...  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 10:06 AM   #33 
                                      - The part where the Courts say it isn't illegal  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 10:08 AM   #35 
                                         - It was the DC Court and it only applied to Afghanistan  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 10:11 AM   #37 
        - Obama/Duncan care about the billionaires who get the profits from destroying our public education.nt  w4rma   Jul-18-10 11:04 AM   #45 
        - That is a highly unlikely and unproven assertion  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 11:10 AM   #47 
        - Your poll states "National Gallup poll reveals Americans are tired of NCLB". Which is exactly what  w4rma   Jul-18-10 01:27 PM   #66 
        - Yep. nt  laughingliberal   Jul-18-10 03:30 PM   #79 
        - The RW is joyous over Obama's/Duncan's privatization of schools.  puzzlingpond   Jul-18-10 02:31 PM   #71 
     - Ask a teacher about that.  Catshrink   Jul-18-10 09:02 AM   #15 
     - I will ask the parents instead. Educating the kids is our primary goal  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:04 AM   #17 
        - The parents need to participate in the education of their children  Catshrink   Jul-18-10 10:08 AM   #34 
           - In the end results matter. Our education system is failing  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 10:18 AM   #39 
              - Yes. Most systems fail when chronically underfunded. That was the intent since Reagan.  laughingliberal   Jul-18-10 03:39 PM   #80 
              - yep, hope England hears you too  KakistocracyHater   Jul-19-10 12:33 AM   #97 
              - Replace "Failing" with "being undermined to facilitate privatisation." nt  spoony   Jul-18-10 04:12 PM   #90 
                 - Exactly! nt  laughingliberal   Jul-18-10 04:33 PM   #94 
     - he's improving education for the elites by privatizing it.  Donnachaidh   Jul-18-10 09:29 AM   #23 
        - Yet most parents are happy with the improvements being made  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 09:50 AM   #26 
           - Yeah, the parents in NOLA are thrilled  Catshrink   Jul-18-10 10:09 AM   #36 
           - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Jul-18-10 03:46 PM   #83 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-18-10 11:05 AM   #46 
           - That would be a false claim and here is the poll to prove it  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 11:11 AM   #49 
              - That's a year old, months before RttT or praise from the WH for firing teachers  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-18-10 04:11 PM   #89 
           - But they dislike NCLB  donco6   Jul-18-10 04:15 PM   #91 
  - It's true, but we're dancing with who we brung  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 08:42 AM   #3 
  - Primaries are part of the dance  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 08:47 AM   #8 
     - No, they didn't cancel the primaries, and you are welcome to help Ralf Mowf run for prom king...  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:23 PM   #59 
        - I detect a tremendous disdain for having the people choose  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 03:21 PM   #76 
           - No, dear, you detect the snap of experience like Kennedy did to Carter, and you know it. nt  LaydeeBug   Jul-19-10 01:14 PM   #99 
  - Is it true that these will be the first federally funded abortions?  Radical Activist   Jul-18-10 12:03 PM   #52 
  - Some democracy we live in n/t  n2doc   Jul-18-10 08:43 AM   #4 
  - "I want this President to succeed." Everyone should want that  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 08:45 AM   #5 
  - The question is: succeed at what?  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 08:50 AM   #11 
     - Really? You don't know what success is?  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 08:52 AM   #13 
     - He's not gettinf a blank sheet from me, sheeew, I criticized him in the OP.  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 09:01 AM   #14 
        - That's why we have primaries, to let the rank-and-file decide  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 09:04 AM   #18 
           - and ponies should breathe rainbows, and Ralph Nader was NOBLE to run, not egotistical.  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:11 PM   #53 
              - At a minimum a President should not ignore the Constitution and abuse power  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 03:14 PM   #75 
                 - and at a maximum, what do you think a Republican President would bring?  LaydeeBug   Jul-19-10 01:23 PM   #101 
  - Or any primary challenge may be a complete joke that doesn't even warrant a debate  stray cat   Jul-18-10 08:48 AM   #9 
  - I would support a challenger in a heartbeat if that challenger were a true liberal/progressive.  NorthCarolina   Jul-18-10 09:20 AM   #22 
  - Of course it would be worse-- and it would guarantee a Republican victory...  TreasonousBastard   Jul-18-10 09:52 AM   #29 
  - Then have the DNC cancel the 2012 primaries and stop this farce  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 10:05 AM   #32 
  - yawn. nt  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:13 PM   #55 
  - I wish there were a "like" button for replies. nt +10000 elevens.  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:13 PM   #54 
  - I agree, but purely for political reasons  ruggerson   Jul-18-10 10:14 AM   #38 
  - I disagree with your optimistic expectations about Obama's second term  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-10 10:20 AM   #41 
  - Oh noooooes!! Let's see if Ralf Mowf can save the day!!!  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:16 PM   #57 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-18-10 03:25 PM   #77 
  - My Gawd, ruggerson, you are SPOT ON. nt  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:14 PM   #56 
  - the problem is that Obama will have less Dems in Congress during  puzzlingpond   Jul-18-10 02:29 PM   #70 
  - Why does democracy terrify some of you so much? nt  spoony   Jul-18-10 10:18 AM   #40 
  - Why are you so comfortable making straw man arguments? nt  stevenleser   Jul-18-10 12:43 PM   #62 
  - the challenger wont win  iamthebandfanman   Jul-18-10 10:25 AM   #42 
  - My crystal ball says beef is for dinner  Oregone   Jul-18-10 10:54 AM   #43 
  - Aaaah, I guess I should be vegan to garner your support regarding our POTUS.  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 11:23 AM   #50 
  - So what are you doing to MAKE him be the president he campaigned to be?  noamnety   Jul-18-10 10:59 AM   #44 
  - It's not as simple as that, and you know it.  LaydeeBug   Jul-18-10 12:20 PM   #58 
  - Perhaps you didn't like my wording. I'll try again.  noamnety   Jul-18-10 12:42 PM   #61 
     - Your word has little to do with what I don't like. Trust.  LaydeeBug   Jul-19-10 01:20 PM   #100 
  - Very good point.  spoony   Jul-18-10 03:46 PM   #82 
  - I will gladly support any primary challenger to Obama  LWolf   Jul-18-10 11:10 AM   #48 
  - +100  Hawkowl   Jul-18-10 02:37 PM   #72 
     - +100  Hawkowl   Jul-18-10 02:42 PM   #73 
  - They don't work for me; they work for everyone  treestar   Jul-18-10 11:33 AM   #51 
  - Let's see who will try to do that.  impik   Jul-18-10 12:26 PM   #60 
  - I Was Watching Ann Coulter...  Steely_Dan   Jul-18-10 12:53 PM   #63 
  - Why would you want to spend your Saturday night watching Ann Coulter videos?  NJmaverick   Jul-18-10 12:55 PM   #64 
  - LOL - Because...  Steely_Dan   Jul-18-10 12:58 PM   #65 
  - What is more disturbing?  BklnDem75   Jul-18-10 01:39 PM   #67 
  - much much worse  cleveramerican   Jul-18-10 01:43 PM   #68 
  - bfd  paulk   Jul-18-10 02:16 PM   #69 
  - Your premise is completely wrong  Hawkowl   Jul-18-10 02:48 PM   #74 
  - Maybe in a perfect world  Ramulux   Jul-18-10 03:58 PM   #87 
  - Perhaps  Hawkowl   Jul-18-10 04:25 PM   #93 
  - Liberals did NOT fail to vote for Carter in 1980  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-20-10 08:45 AM   #106 
  - Bush was in charge of that, not Reagan  Ter   Jul-20-10 02:49 PM   #110 
  - Only in the parallel universe AKA DU, this is even an issue  impik   Jul-18-10 03:28 PM   #78 
  - Since half your posts whine about DU  spoony   Jul-18-10 03:47 PM   #84 
  - The Irony King strikes again.  Bobbie Jo   Jul-18-10 03:56 PM   #86 
     - My fan club president, hi there!  spoony   Jul-18-10 04:10 PM   #88 
        - Back at ya!  Bobbie Jo   Jul-18-10 04:23 PM   #92 
           - I try to answer all mail.  spoony   Jul-18-10 04:36 PM   #95 
  - +1 trillion  suzie   Jul-19-10 01:39 PM   #102 
  - Why are there 3 threads about a primary challenge? What the heck?! It's not the time for in-fighting  Metric System   Jul-18-10 03:42 PM   #81 
  - It's called the free exercise of democracy.  spoony   Jul-18-10 03:49 PM   #85 
  - It's called "The President must have had one HELL of a fabulous week this week" syndrome  Number23   Jul-18-10 05:24 PM   #96 
     - I'd call it by an older, more unpleasant name, but then I live in the South.  suzie   Jul-19-10 01:41 PM   #103 
  - Some people are already backing you know who in 2012  davidpdx   Jul-19-10 04:37 AM   #98 
  - I support primaries against all incumbents  bigwillq   Jul-19-10 01:44 PM   #104 
  - Yeah, it would be bad, now is not the time to be reinforcing Democratic institutions.  Umbral   Jul-20-10 05:52 AM   #105 
  - I don't think any reasonable democrat will challenge Obama left or right.  WI_DEM   Jul-20-10 11:13 AM   #107 
  - From what I just read- you'd be willing to gut social security rather than challenge  depakid   Jul-20-10 11:17 AM   #108 
  - i agree, and to hell with the "angry left" propoganda machinery.  mkultra   Jul-20-10 02:15 PM   #109 

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