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Sun Jul-11-10 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #81 |
| -Wherein I Give Mad Props to President Obama...because someone has to |
NJmaverick |
Jul-10-10 02:53 PM |
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Excellent article! |
johnaries |
Jul-10-10 03:09 PM |
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I loved that part too. That and the "understanding history keeps one from despair" bit |
Number23 |
Jul-11-10 03:48 AM |
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Generation Obama. |
jaxx |
Jul-10-10 03:23 PM |
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Digging out of the biggest hole ever |
treestar |
Jul-10-10 03:24 PM |
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"The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-10-10 03:29 PM |
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Great quote and great picture |
NJmaverick |
Jul-10-10 04:13 PM |
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Don't have a voice on DU anymore, but good post n/t |
politicasista |
Jul-10-10 05:04 PM |
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Yes, we have a voice! And we will be heard, and prevail. n/t |
msanthrope |
Jul-10-10 05:27 PM |
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You have one, but |
politicasista |
Jul-10-10 08:46 PM |
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thank god Obama is President. |
KeyWester |
Jul-10-10 05:57 PM |
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that pic still makes me laugh |
treestar |
Jul-10-10 07:48 PM |
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I cringe when thinking this idiot could've won the presidency... |
kjackson227 |
Jul-12-10 05:35 PM |
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Lots of excellent points! |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-10-10 06:03 PM |
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Let's consider the statement about his saving us from a Great Depression by comparing with FDR |
Time for change |
Jul-10-10 06:21 PM |
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You're comparison is ridiculously flawed. |
vaberella |
Jul-10-10 07:07 PM |
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Well, you said 4 times in one paragraph that the two situations are utterly different, etc etc. |
Time for change |
Jul-10-10 07:23 PM |
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What does FDR have to do with what is happening today? |
treestar |
Jul-10-10 07:49 PM |
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From the fall of 2008 to the present time our economy has been in worse shape than at any time since |
Time for change |
Jul-10-10 07:59 PM |
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FDR's was much worse |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 10:35 AM |
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All the more reason that his accomplishments were so impressive |
Time for change |
Jul-11-10 03:42 PM |
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That 5 million jobs WAS in FDR's first term and 5 million then was a much |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 05:41 AM |
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You're counting can't be as wrong as the op. |
vaberella |
Jul-11-10 06:33 AM |
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I said we would have to wait till Obama completed his term. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 06:45 AM |
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Sorry saracat. You're right. I agree on that point. n/t |
vaberella |
Jul-12-10 02:03 AM |
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Do you think that chart accurately reflects the situation? |
ProSense |
Jul-10-10 07:24 PM |
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Yes, I think those statistics are reasonably accurate |
Time for change |
Jul-10-10 07:57 PM |
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"in fact it shows him with negative 680 thousand jobs in 8 years. " |
ProSense |
Jul-10-10 08:03 PM |
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WTF????????? |
butterfly77 |
Jul-11-10 03:00 PM |
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That's Nonsense |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 04:45 PM |
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When Obama took office we were losing |
MadMaddie |
Jul-10-10 08:07 PM |
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I wasn't expressing anger |
Time for change |
Jul-10-10 08:51 PM |
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FDR couldn't "force corporations" either.Yet somehow, he lead and created jobs. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 05:44 AM |
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Congress went along with it |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 10:37 AM |
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I admit that is one of my frustrations |
MadMaddie |
Jul-11-10 12:49 PM |
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Part of the problem is contracts and the Recovery Act. Much employment , by the restrictions and |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 03:48 PM |
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FDR had a desperate for change Congress w/ 2/3 majorities in both for 6 YEARS RUNNING! |
HughMoran |
Jul-12-10 08:43 AM |
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Unemployment at the beginning of FDR's first term: 25%. End of first term: 22%. |
Drunken Irishman |
Jul-10-10 11:37 PM |
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These posters idolizing FDR are lacking in any historical perspective |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 10:38 AM |
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Excellent point |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 12:48 PM |
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In fact, month or so ago, Obama called it a "Depression" ...immediately scrubbed from |
defendandprotect |
Jul-11-10 12:49 AM |
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I see some are openly tossing around Repug talking points on DU nowadays... |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-11-10 07:27 PM |
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It's really a shame how little credit he gets for doing huge things. |
Phx_Dem |
Jul-10-10 06:33 PM |
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Jul-11-10 05:05 PM |
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BS |
HughMoran |
Jul-11-10 08:15 PM |
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Jul-11-10 08:59 PM |
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Ha Ha |
HughMoran |
Jul-11-10 09:11 PM |
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75 wars is surely a huge thing! |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-11-10 11:07 PM |
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K & R! n/t |
Political Tiger |
Jul-10-10 07:00 PM |
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Van Jones is one of the best voices for Democracy~ |
Cha |
Jul-10-10 07:22 PM |
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Yes the man is certainly brilliant |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 08:13 AM |
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Van Jones is a class act and right on the money |
goclark |
Jul-11-10 10:35 AM |
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Here is what Van Jones is acknowledging. |
ProSense |
Jul-10-10 07:47 PM |
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And you think the efforts made on those issues were good? Some are actually the source of much |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 05:51 AM |
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The fight with Bush was about drilling in |
janx |
Jul-11-10 10:34 AM |
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Since when do we support ANY drilling???? Especially in Alaska? |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 07:19 PM |
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"destruction of the public education system " |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 03:04 PM |
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Ask the Teachers. Asl Madflo . Ask those that are well informed. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 03:52 PM |
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You're right, |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 03:56 PM |
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To those for whom this is their life work and not a conversation on a chat board, who |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 04:02 PM |
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Obviously, there |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 04:06 PM |
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Same old link. Sigh. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 04:08 PM |
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Same Old Shit Would Be More Like It (nt) |
Dinger |
Jul-11-10 09:09 PM |
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Sure, there were health care workers who bought into this crap with health care in the 80's' |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 04:26 PM |
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A lot of them are drowning in paperwork. |
unapatriciated |
Jul-11-10 06:54 PM |
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Oh, I know that one. As an RN, not only did our patient loads double but the paperwork tripled. |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 07:02 PM |
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Remember how electronic records were supposed to |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 07:11 PM |
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A lot institutions for whom I worked didn't convert. |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 07:49 PM |
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Eventually they'll have to in order to get paid. |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 08:09 PM |
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Oh, and they'll do it, then. Right now it saves them money not to and just dump on the nurses. nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 08:19 PM |
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The rules are so complicated |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 07:10 PM |
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Not only do they make their own rules-they change those rules constantly. |
unapatriciated |
Jul-11-10 07:32 PM |
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Yep. It's meant to be confusing so they can keep finding reasons not to pay. nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 07:51 PM |
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And Weingarten is being... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-11-10 10:18 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 04:29 PM |
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That Deserves It's Own Thread |
Dinger |
Jul-11-10 09:08 PM |
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Privatization of public services is a 30 year fad that started with Reagan... |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 04:23 PM |
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Yes |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 04:48 PM |
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Also at your link, prosense. You might want to look at it. ...Then again, you probably won't |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 04:48 PM |
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Why wouldn't I want to look? |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 05:59 PM |
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Its not about the title (vouchers). Its the content that counts. |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 06:23 PM |
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"In recent years, advocates of public funding of private and religious schools " |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 06:45 PM |
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Misdirection now? |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 07:19 PM |
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Where is the President advocating public funding for private schools? |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 07:24 PM |
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Okay. This just became nonsensical beyond belief. |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 07:30 PM |
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"he certainly wouldn't be closing public schools, opening private schools" |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 09:08 PM |
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I am more than happy to share your comments with my teacher friends and their friends |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-11-10 07:23 PM |
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Prosense, it isn't a fad. If the ... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-11-10 10:14 PM |
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Here's the problem: |
ProSense |
Jul-12-10 08:53 AM |
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I agree with this... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-12-10 12:31 PM |
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Jul-11-10 05:22 PM |
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Wait |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 06:13 PM |
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Jul-11-10 06:39 PM |
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There used to be a really good argument against |
cornermouse |
Jul-12-10 04:54 AM |
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Excellent. K&R nt |
quiet.american |
Jul-10-10 10:59 PM |
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DU has become way too focused on Obama |
Vattel |
Jul-10-10 11:14 PM |
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Great idea! I'm so tired of the popularity contest/sporting event model of politics. nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 12:21 AM |
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That's A Great Suggestion:) |
Dinger |
Jul-11-10 09:14 PM |
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Excellent article NJ, so true! |
SunsetDreams |
Jul-11-10 12:36 AM |
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Unfortunately, he's trying to bail out the ocean with a dixie cup. nt |
Cheap_Trick |
Jul-11-10 01:28 AM |
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Superhuman he is not |
Axle_techie |
Jul-11-10 01:44 AM |
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Again you have to remember the very deep hole he started in |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 08:13 AM |
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You don't fill up one hole by digging a new one... |
Axle_techie |
Jul-11-10 02:59 PM |
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Oh, President Obama isn't digging anything..he's |
Cha |
Jul-11-10 05:49 PM |
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Yet to be seen. My nightmare ship of unemployment seems |
Axle_techie |
Jul-12-10 12:11 AM |
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Superhuman ? |
GeorgeGist |
Jul-11-10 06:37 AM |
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K&R! Excellent n.t |
firedupdem |
Jul-11-10 10:34 AM |
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K&R good article |
Peacetrain |
Jul-11-10 11:52 AM |
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Unrec. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jul-11-10 12:56 PM |
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All but one of these is a joke? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 01:04 PM |
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Lol! |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jul-11-10 01:15 PM |
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You can't dismiss the facts for being "old" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 01:23 PM |
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FACTs= " announced intents" Then we must have the Public Option and I didn't notice. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 03:58 PM |
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Why not? You just gave him credit for something Congress didn't do |
SunsetDreams |
Jul-11-10 04:13 PM |
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Silly . I have many times given him credit when I applaud the effort. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 04:50 PM |
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A fact is verifiable not an "announced intents" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 04:20 PM |
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The list promoted has intents on it included with |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 04:51 PM |
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That doesn't preclude the fact that the majority are fact |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 05:29 PM |
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I am censorsing my response because I do not agree and do not wish to promote incivility. |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 07:12 PM |
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While you concerns for civility are appreciated, it doesn't change the facts |
NJmaverick |
Jul-12-10 06:32 AM |
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The list is a matter of interpetation. And much is alleged intent |
saracat |
Jul-13-10 02:28 AM |
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You're right. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jul-11-10 10:10 PM |
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they seem to be seriously stuck in a run, Kermitt |
Skittles |
Jul-11-10 11:36 PM |
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Yep, I still see that one, too. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jul-12-10 05:11 PM |
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So, pray tell us, what is the shelf life of facts? |
11 Bravo |
Jul-12-10 06:54 PM |
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There is no shelf life of facts. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jul-13-10 08:46 AM |
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Your joke has gotten old and stale, NJM. |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 05:02 PM |
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I don't consider the President's accomplishments a "joke" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-11-10 05:26 PM |
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Really? |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 05:45 PM |
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Jul-11-10 04:55 PM |
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Hmmm? |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 04:58 PM |
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Linking to yourself, linking to an excuse. |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 05:06 PM |
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Facts are facts. |
Cha |
Jul-11-10 05:50 PM |
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You're boring, Cha. n/t |
cornermouse |
Jul-11-10 06:46 PM |
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People on the wrong side of facts frequently say things like that when facts are quoted at them |
stevenleser |
Jul-12-10 09:16 PM |
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Well said! |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 05:06 PM |
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"Your hero is a fraud, sir. His policies are doomed to failure. " |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 05:30 PM |
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"Your hero is a fraud, sir. His policies are doomed to failure. " |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 05:42 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 05:10 PM |
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Look who's talkin'. |
Cha |
Jul-11-10 05:52 PM |
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"Name removed" is apparently talking. |
Birthmark |
Jul-11-10 06:03 PM |
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must be swell to be Obama's savior |
havocmom |
Jul-11-10 11:39 PM |
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I think this quote sums it up best |
NJmaverick |
Jul-12-10 06:34 AM |
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Well, let's take a look at this, shall we? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jul-12-10 05:25 PM |
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