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Thu Jul-08-10 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 50. you're right, he has had action in some areas. I shouldn't have said that |
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but when it comes to major areas, areas probably mentioned in that speech, actions have been weak.
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| -Just Listened To Obama Speech - He's Campaigning For Carnahan In Missouri....... |
global1 |
Jul-08-10 03:14 PM |
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I listened too. That's the campaigner Obama. I think he doesn't |
napi21 |
Jul-08-10 03:19 PM |
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crickets |
madmax |
Jul-08-10 03:20 PM |
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He's in campaign mode. Those that underestimate him will |
livetohike |
Jul-08-10 03:20 PM |
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So Obama gave a good speech? Holy shit! That totally excuses all his actions. |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 03:21 PM |
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speeches are show biz PR. talk means nothing. action is what matters..nt |
msongs |
Jul-08-10 03:29 PM |
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+1 |
MissDeeds |
Jul-08-10 04:27 PM |
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I thought the bully pulpit was good enough on its own? |
treestar |
Jul-08-10 04:37 PM |
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He should be |
SunsetDreams |
Jul-08-10 06:51 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss. |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-08-10 07:25 PM |
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+1 |
slay |
Jul-08-10 03:33 PM |
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and Pakistan makes 3 |
Citizen Worker |
Jul-08-10 04:12 PM |
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And Iran makes 4! |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 04:56 PM |
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There is nothing that needs an excuse. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 03:45 PM |
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ahaha ahahaha hahahaha hahaha hahah HA! You don't really believe that now do you? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 04:36 PM |
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I'm sorry, you didn't type "haha" enough times to be convincing. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 04:46 PM |
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Ok lets play. Tell me why it's ok to put the burden of healthcare reform on middle class people? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 04:48 PM |
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I make more than that and I cover me AND my wife for exactly that amount. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 04:58 PM |
#35 |
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Umm...so you are going to pull the ignorant card? Yes, we know what the costs will be |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:03 PM |
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Although higher than I would like, 200 some odd dollars a month isn't a lot of money. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 05:23 PM |
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My magic facts mean nothing to you? I love that logic, like I said denial on the brink of insanity |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:30 PM |
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Your magic inability to use your own calculator, more like it |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 05:36 PM |
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Do you know the definition of "up to". Up to $200. $50 a month isn't a cake walk at $600 a paycheck |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:47 PM |
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Seriously? 800 bucks a month for rent and food for 1 friggin person? |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:01 PM |
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So ok, poor people don't deserve $75 a week for food. Can we make it $50? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:06 PM |
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If you can't pay 50 bucks for health insurance, even at 8 bucks an hour... |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:23 PM |
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Umm...$10 an hour and $93 a month for insurance. Tell me which of these things they dont deserve |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:31 PM |
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After taxes, you should still have close to 400 bucks left over. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:42 PM |
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I have a hard time seeing what version of math you are using |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 07:13 PM |
#83 |
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your calculations are a half truth as usual |
mkultra |
Jul-08-10 08:50 PM |
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Ok, give me some numbers. What's the lowest possible amount a $10/hr person will pay? |
no limit |
Jul-09-10 08:44 AM |
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BTW, I officially like your magic calculator. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:46 PM |
#79 |
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You have no idea what you are talking about. |
tekisui |
Jul-09-10 11:29 AM |
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"200 dollars a month isn't a lot of money" |
Smashcut |
Jul-09-10 12:57 AM |
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. |
Smashcut |
Jul-09-10 12:57 AM |
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Did you not notice that Health Care barely passed? |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:02 PM |
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I never said anything about single payer. I asked why is it ok to put the burden on the middle class |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:04 PM |
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There are subsidies that are there on a sliding scale, |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:23 PM |
#48 |
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I posted a calculator above. I've been screaming about this since this bill was proposed |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:33 PM |
#52 |
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Less than 10% of your annual income for assurance of healthcare needs is not a bad deal, period. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 05:40 PM |
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If I gave you half off on ferraris and forced you to buy one would that be a good deal? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:48 PM |
#58 |
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I don't look at the mandate the way you look at the mandate. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:18 PM |
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Again, the burden is being put on people that already live paycheck to paycheck |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:30 PM |
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No, they can come up with the 97 or whatever it is per year tax penalty. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 06:40 PM |
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All the math shows it's huge for someone living on $10/hr. But keep ignoring it. |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 07:13 PM |
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$97.00 a year is a pair of good tennis shoes, or a big night out on the town. |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:41 PM |
#56 |
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To be 25, single and making only 12-15 dollars an hour again. |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 05:50 PM |
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Or gas/electric/food/ and all the other things people living on that kind of money need |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:50 PM |
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We are talking annually...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:59 PM |
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Someone making $10/hr will have to pay $97 a month (not year) |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:01 PM |
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Someone making $10 per hour.....if they worked full time |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 06:11 PM |
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Thanks for pointing out the catastrophic policy, I didn't see it. But where are you getting $76.41 |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:17 PM |
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its a choice, not a requirment. |
mkultra |
Jul-08-10 08:53 PM |
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no they wont, this isnt true. |
mkultra |
Jul-08-10 08:52 PM |
#98 |
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Wow. You are out of touch, too. |
tekisui |
Jul-09-10 11:31 AM |
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I'm sorry, but someone making $10 an hour is not middle class. |
dave29 |
Jul-08-10 09:04 PM |
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+1. He's doing a GREAT job! |
Phx_Dem |
Jul-08-10 05:17 PM |
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Says the crowd who are always yelling for him to do more speeches |
IOKIYAL |
Jul-08-10 04:07 PM |
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Yea, they cry for him to use the bully pulpit, he does, then suddenly "its just a speech". |
phleshdef |
Jul-08-10 04:11 PM |
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EXACTLY!!! n/t |
jenmito |
Jul-08-10 04:12 PM |
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You just nailed it. Nothing is enough because they just hate the |
firedupdem |
Jul-08-10 04:15 PM |
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We hate the man personally? Where the hell do you guys pull this crap from? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 04:40 PM |
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the personal grudges people display are quite obvious, actually. |
dionysus |
Jul-08-10 07:52 PM |
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+1 |
azmouse |
Jul-08-10 05:07 PM |
#42 |
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+1000 nt |
CBR |
Jul-08-10 04:15 PM |
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Bingo. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jul-08-10 04:35 PM |
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+100 |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-08-10 04:35 PM |
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Seriously. I thought we wanted a stronger message out there? |
Jennicut |
Jul-08-10 04:48 PM |
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+1. Becuase they're compulsive whiners. |
Phx_Dem |
Jul-08-10 05:18 PM |
#46 |
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"I never expected Obama to be liberal and now I'm totally disillusioned" |
Radical Activist |
Jul-09-10 12:51 AM |
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I'm in some kind of crowd? Wow, didn't know that. |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 04:37 PM |
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They never supported him. It's a waste of time |
impik |
Jul-08-10 04:50 PM |
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Yep, they move the goals and then bitch when the ball doesn't |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-10 04:55 PM |
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These actions? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-08-10 04:52 PM |
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No, these actions (you know the actually important ones): |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 04:58 PM |
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It appears your description of the actions are more opinion than fact |
NJmaverick |
Jul-08-10 05:00 PM |
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which one specifically is opinion? And if Im going to waste my time arguing with you |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:07 PM |
#43 |
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You're right I was being generous in the opinion comment |
NJmaverick |
Jul-08-10 08:03 PM |
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oh yes let's dump on a positive thread |
SunsetDreams |
Jul-08-10 06:49 PM |
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He was at his BEST!! Even the description of his daughter was funny... |
jenmito |
Jul-08-10 03:24 PM |
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LOL! |
firedupdem |
Jul-08-10 04:17 PM |
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He really went off on a tangent with it... |
jenmito |
Jul-08-10 04:21 PM |
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This will be one our Democratic pick-ups along with Kentucky and Ohio! |
Radical Activist |
Jul-08-10 03:42 PM |
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lets hope so! nt |
Clio the Leo |
Jul-08-10 04:13 PM |
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Should help Carnahan.. its a close race with Blunt.. |
DCBob |
Jul-08-10 04:34 PM |
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"That's the guy I voted for" |
Oregone |
Jul-08-10 04:53 PM |
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Enjoy it while you still can. By my count it will be back to old Obama in under 4 months |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:12 PM |
#44 |
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That's not true, and you know that it isn't. |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:26 PM |
#49 |
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you're right, he has had action in some areas. I shouldn't have said that |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:28 PM |
#50 |
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I personally really do believe that with the media that we have, |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 05:39 PM |
#54 |
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That's certainly true for many of the failures of this administration, but no nearly all of them |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 05:58 PM |
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I'm sure you could nitpick your way to naming some "Failures of this administration"...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 06:06 PM |
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But I really don't like how you and others dismiss these things as "i want, I want". |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:13 PM |
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Are you talking to me when you state..."that's why you don't want to debate " |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 06:26 PM |
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But you keep ignoring the specifics I am pointing to or you are dismissive of them |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 06:36 PM |
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I got it! You don't like the health bill that passed, |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 06:56 PM |
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See, there is you dismissing a important point you cant refute again. It's not about the health bill |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 07:15 PM |
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I've discussed this with you as much as I feel is required at this time. |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 07:27 PM |
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Now you pull out the guilt card. No, I don't want to give power to republicans |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 07:36 PM |
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It's not a guilt card, it is a fact card...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 07:42 PM |
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The examples I listed are clear |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 07:51 PM |
#91 |
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Oh...ok..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 08:08 PM |
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So if the bill cost $10 billion extra each year Obama wouldn't be able to pass it? |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 08:42 PM |
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You are correct, the bill would not have passed...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 08:48 PM |
#96 |
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Let me give you a better analogy, I think Obama likes this one since he originally said it |
no limit |
Jul-08-10 09:11 PM |
#101 |
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I think we see things differently. |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 10:08 PM |
#102 |
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You keep arguing in circles because you refuse to acknowledge any failures on the part of this admin |
no limit |
Jul-09-10 08:43 AM |
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"You can't have the keys back because you don't know how to drive." |
BeyondGeography |
Jul-08-10 05:07 PM |
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How Impressive ! Preaching to the choir takes courage!! nt |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-08-10 06:17 PM |
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I thought the speech was televised! |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-08-10 06:29 PM |
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not all crowds are choirs, not all preaching is for you. |
dave29 |
Jul-08-10 11:25 PM |
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I predict that Carnahan smokes Blunt! |
Sky Masterson |
Jul-08-10 07:33 PM |
#88 |
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I was there....MEDIA LYING ABOUT EMPTY SEATS! |
bac511 |
Jul-09-10 09:34 AM |
#108 |
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Thank you for the TRUTH! n/t |
Fire1 |
Jul-09-10 08:13 PM |
#111 |
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