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Did you urge him to back 'drill, baby, drill'? Did you urge him to continue renditions? To strengthen and continue the Patriot Act? Did you urge him to dawdle when repealing DADT? So when he did these things, what did you say to him or his advisers?
Have you challenged his views on marriage being between a man and a woman? What about the public option - did you urge him to fight for it, or were you OK with the insurance companies getting millions more (mandated) customers with no competition?
I don't see any of you decrying this crap. All I see is defense of the indefensible.
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| -So will all of you who say you're gonna sit out the '12 election/vote 3rd party REALLY OK with Pres. |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:18 PM |
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I'm convinced some are fine with their self-fulfilling prophecies. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-13-10 08:21 PM |
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From what I read here, not only do some here say they're definitely NOT going to |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:23 PM |
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The 2000 election was pivotal. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-13-10 10:27 PM |
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+1000 |
suzie |
Jun-15-10 08:58 AM |
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Why is it always, "they" with you? |
niceypoo |
Jun-15-10 09:21 AM |
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LOL |
Frances |
Jun-13-10 08:27 PM |
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Elections have consequences. Sometimes the damage isn't fully realized until years later. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-13-10 08:31 PM |
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Extremely important point by you and the responder to you who said elections have consequences and |
stevenleser |
Jun-13-10 09:36 PM |
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Very astute observation. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jun-14-10 12:10 PM |
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Totally agree |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-14-10 01:15 AM |
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I agree. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-15-10 12:24 AM |
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On the bright side: a Pres. Palin would mean the end of the Repub party for the next 200 yrs. |
Speck Tater |
Jun-13-10 08:24 PM |
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I think it would bring a civil war to this country |
MadMaddie |
Jun-13-10 08:24 PM |
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I believe you. |
TxVietVet |
Jun-13-10 08:27 PM |
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Yep! |
MadMaddie |
Jun-13-10 08:49 PM |
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It took 6 years to revolt against Bushco |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-14-10 05:56 AM |
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I am not crazy about any religious fanatics |
golfguru |
Jun-14-10 04:34 PM |
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That's precisely what some people were saying about George W Bush in 2000 |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-13-10 09:10 PM |
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We said that about W too. (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Jun-15-10 08:38 AM |
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Fear tactics only go so far... |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 08:28 PM |
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So if Obama's polling plummets, they're more likely to nominate a loon? |
Robb |
Jun-13-10 08:30 PM |
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If either Obama polls very well- or polls very poorly in terms of disapproval |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 08:38 PM |
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WHAT fear tactics? Please explain fear tactics vs. facts. n/t |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:36 PM |
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Simple |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 08:41 PM |
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Which means you DON'T think Palin (or any other Palin-like nutjob) is |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:43 PM |
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No- as I said, Palin hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 09:01 PM |
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It could be her or someone LIKE her. Would you not mind living with her or someone LIKE |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 09:05 PM |
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Let's put it this way- Huck would be a lot better than Bush |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 09:12 PM |
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He's a Christain fundamentalist. He's a million percent against gay rights. He puts |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 09:16 PM |
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He's more of an economic populist than Bush ever was |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 09:28 PM |
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He could very well be right, along with John Thune as another example. |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 09:55 PM |
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I think Obama and his advisors have made their own beds with cynical triangulation |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 10:26 PM |
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You didn't answer my questions. n/t |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 10:29 PM |
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Sure I have- the more the President enables, legitimizes Republicans- and adopts their policies |
depakid |
Jun-13-10 10:43 PM |
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I asked you- |
jenmito |
Jun-14-10 10:20 AM |
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Interesting |
Sheepshank |
Jun-14-10 02:09 PM |
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Very interesting. And perhaps worth exploring some more, given the numerous |
suzie |
Jun-15-10 09:01 AM |
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Crikey- are some of you really as thick as the responses above suggest? |
depakid |
Jun-15-10 10:37 PM |
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"Fear tactics only go so far..." |
pnorman |
Jun-13-10 08:39 PM |
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save your breath, there is no reasoning |
demtenjeep |
Jun-13-10 08:32 PM |
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I'd just like to hear the 'logic" of those who are willing to live under a President Palin |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:39 PM |
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Jesus christ on a pogo stick. |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 11:12 AM |
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we do hold his feet to the fire. we do not threaten to vote or let |
nofurylike |
Jun-15-10 02:54 AM |
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Did you urge him to escalate the war in Afghanistan? |
muffin1 |
Jun-15-10 07:01 AM |
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the trashing was so immediate and fierce there was no reason |
nofurylike |
Jun-16-10 01:33 AM |
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Jun-13-10 08:42 PM |
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So you are one of those who's ready and willing to have Palin as president... |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:45 PM |
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I have no idea what I'll do in 2012. |
Beacool |
Jun-13-10 08:48 PM |
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So your comment is already inoperative?: |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:51 PM |
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Why inoperative? |
Beacool |
Jun-13-10 08:53 PM |
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Hmmm... |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:59 PM |
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I don't approve of sexism, even when it's applied to Palin. |
Beacool |
Jun-13-10 09:05 PM |
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WHAT sexism? She plays the victim every chance she gets! And she claims her children |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 09:50 PM |
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I KNOW I will be voting for the Democratic nominee in 2012 if I am well and able, |
karynnj |
Jun-14-10 07:14 AM |
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Oh, I never said that I would ever vote for a Republican. |
Beacool |
Jun-14-10 08:15 AM |
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I never would have voted for a republican either |
karynnj |
Jun-14-10 08:35 AM |
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you have every right to feel the way you do |
Frances |
Jun-13-10 10:14 PM |
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I guess that I don't have the right to feel the way I do since the moderators deleted the message. |
Beacool |
Jun-14-10 01:08 AM |
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Freedom of Speech Fail. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-14-10 08:18 AM |
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I'm still curious why you chose Hillary's pix |
Frances |
Jun-14-10 01:48 PM |
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It's simple. |
Beacool |
Jun-15-10 12:14 AM |
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But are you showing respect for Hillary |
Frances |
Jun-15-10 12:06 PM |
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I am generally a pretty tolerant sort, but how many variations of this simple-minded bullshit |
Atticus |
Jun-13-10 08:52 PM |
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It's not MY words, it's the words of people on this very board who |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 08:54 PM |
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I was specifically referring to the OP, which was YOUR words. Why are you trying to avoid |
Atticus |
Jun-13-10 09:03 PM |
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Uh, yes, my OP asked |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 10:00 PM |
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Please, don't we have enough drama and hyperventalating? |
Go2Peace |
Jun-13-10 11:17 PM |
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Thank you. nt |
Atticus |
Jun-13-10 11:27 PM |
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+200 |
RedRoses323 |
Jun-14-10 07:52 AM |
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Speak for yourself. I'M talking about people here who said they WON'T vote for Obama in '12, that |
jenmito |
Jun-14-10 10:25 AM |
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+100. Good post |
Go2Peace |
Jun-13-10 11:08 PM |
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Jun-13-10 08:56 PM |
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We did not survive Reagan, his anti-govt. rhetoric is with you everywhere and infected |
Jennicut |
Jun-13-10 08:59 PM |
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Are you seriously asking what the difference is to a lgbtq person whether we have |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 09:04 PM |
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It is deleted now. Can you give a clue as to the author? |
Pirate Smile |
Jun-13-10 09:55 PM |
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Shame. |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-13-10 10:12 PM |
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I'm PRETTY sure I remember... |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 10:25 PM |
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The President is opposed to equal rights. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-14-10 09:41 AM |
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My best friend is gay. |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 11:41 AM |
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WoW that'll teach us? |
jaxx |
Jun-13-10 09:06 PM |
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You really don't get it |
KingFlorez |
Jun-13-10 09:19 PM |
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I think it is a question of would some rather use a third party vote as a message to the Dem |
Jennicut |
Jun-13-10 08:57 PM |
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I like your comment about sending Dems a message. That's |
Lindsey |
Jun-13-10 09:17 PM |
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Well, attentions spans ARE shorter these days. At least my kids are.... |
Jennicut |
Jun-13-10 09:22 PM |
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If you'll vote for a Dem no matter what, then what incentive will the Dems have to |
Raineyb |
Jun-15-10 01:30 PM |
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After 8 LONG freaking years of George W. Bush?? |
AsahinaKimi |
Jun-16-10 05:53 AM |
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Palin will never be president. |
Orsino |
Jun-13-10 09:17 PM |
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Don't ever say that! |
Joe Bacon |
Jun-13-10 09:38 PM |
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Nope. Won't happen for Palin. |
Orsino |
Jun-13-10 09:49 PM |
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Fox is the biggest money there is |
Frances |
Jun-14-10 10:06 AM |
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And Palin loves Fox money. |
Orsino |
Jun-14-10 10:20 AM |
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Obama becoming president seems to have people losing their minds. |
volvoblue |
Jun-13-10 09:54 PM |
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Excellent post. |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-13-10 10:08 PM |
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If by minds you mean "independent thought" then yes, they have. |
spoony |
Jun-14-10 12:46 AM |
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Excellent post |
HughMoran |
Jun-14-10 09:48 AM |
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I don't know what I'll actually DO in '12, but |
socialist_n_TN |
Jun-14-10 10:21 AM |
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Wow... |
tallahasseedem |
Jun-14-10 02:29 PM |
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The left is betraying Obama????? |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 03:28 PM |
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What asinine drivel |
Raineyb |
Jun-15-10 01:41 PM |
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Jun-13-10 10:04 PM |
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I'm utterly convinced ... |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-13-10 10:10 PM |
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Strangely, it is a lot like late-night talk shows... |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-13-10 10:21 PM |
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Are you going to make us take a Loyalty Oath? |
BuelahWitch |
Jun-13-10 10:27 PM |
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You didn't comprehend my post. |
jenmito |
Jun-13-10 10:32 PM |
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Don't act like you posted something profound, or original. |
spoony |
Jun-13-10 11:11 PM |
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You're part of the problem. You think of Obama as "whatever the Democrats stuff in |
jenmito |
Jun-14-10 10:31 AM |
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"You're part of the problem" = "get back in line and stop asking questions" |
spoony |
Jun-14-10 04:16 PM |
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Ummm, no. |
jenmito |
Jun-15-10 12:06 PM |
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I'll never sit out an election! Not after 8 years of Bustards! |
agentS |
Jun-13-10 11:04 PM |
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Well said! |
akbacchus_BC |
Jun-14-10 12:50 AM |
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Why should anyone bother answering you |
spoony |
Jun-13-10 11:08 PM |
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I fear Palin, but Obama hasn't motivated me. |
LittleBlue |
Jun-14-10 12:02 AM |
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Obama isn't the one who's going to lose. WE are. |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-14-10 01:42 AM |
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Social Security |
libmom74 |
Jun-15-10 12:56 PM |
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Epic fail. n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-14-10 12:16 AM |
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It's Obama's own fault - and yours for not pulling out of iraqistan, closing gitmo, etc... |
grahamhgreen |
Jun-14-10 12:40 AM |
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It's Obama's own fault and MINE? |
jenmito |
Jun-14-10 10:35 AM |
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Yes - as well as many others here. |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 11:44 AM |
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Good point. |
avaistheone1 |
Jun-16-10 01:35 AM |
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They deserve more Conservatives! Best fucking country in the world, |
akbacchus_BC |
Jun-14-10 12:49 AM |
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Hmmm....sounds like you're hoping for the country to fail |
spoony |
Jun-14-10 12:54 AM |
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Read my message again, I am rooting for America. If America fails, |
akbacchus_BC |
Jun-14-10 01:14 AM |
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Wow- you sure don't sound like any Canadian I've ever met |
depakid |
Jun-14-10 07:32 AM |
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No, I'm not okay with a President Palin and I'm disappointed that I'm not okay with President Obama |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-14-10 02:21 AM |
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Speaking just for myself.. hell no |
abq e streeter |
Jun-14-10 03:22 AM |
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Oooh..republican scare tactics! |
bigwillq |
Jun-14-10 07:27 AM |
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So you are not in the least bit scared of having a Republican President again? |
treestar |
Jun-14-10 07:47 AM |
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We will have a republican president again |
bigwillq |
Jun-14-10 07:55 AM |
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If you honestly think that Palin is going to get the presidential nod, |
MadHound |
Jun-14-10 08:18 AM |
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I was hoping by 2010 that we'd have a better message to run on than "We're not them!". |
Forkboy |
Jun-14-10 08:40 AM |
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I just wish the Central Committee would send out some fresh talking points. |
QC |
Jun-14-10 08:46 AM |
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I think "threaten them with Palin" days fall every three days. |
kiva |
Jun-14-10 10:00 AM |
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I was just going to say that. |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 10:48 AM |
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Meh, I doubt that anything more than 1% of them even voted for Obama in '08 |
WeDidIt |
Jun-14-10 08:45 AM |
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Willful ignorance is a fundamentally Republican trait |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-15-10 08:25 AM |
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I'm totally voting Obama. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-14-10 10:01 AM |
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That's like, you know, like, so AWESOME! n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-10 01:51 PM |
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They'll sit out. Then from 2012 to 2016 whine about Obama "deserting" them. |
tranche |
Jun-14-10 11:13 AM |
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I thought that the Republicans were the ones who used scare tactics. |
totodeinhere |
Jun-14-10 11:38 AM |
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Some have said the same about Bush---especially the second time around. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-14-10 06:55 PM |
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the old, tired SCARE TACTICS routine |
amborin |
Jun-14-10 11:56 AM |
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It's not a bloody scare tactic when you have posters on DU--- |
vaberella |
Jun-14-10 07:00 PM |
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Oh, and I keep forgetting this. |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 12:04 PM |
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If you think Dumbya Bush's administration was bad then sit out... |
kjackson227 |
Jun-14-10 12:42 PM |
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I don't think Palin will be a 2012 GOP nominee |
Sheepshank |
Jun-14-10 02:18 PM |
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Better her than a black man. They gave Clinton 8 years to screw up and deregulate |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-14-10 05:56 PM |
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So, because some people take issue with many of Obama's |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 06:05 PM |
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Yes, that is exactly what the poster is saying. |
demmiblue |
Jun-14-10 06:25 PM |
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Crazy is one word for it... |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 06:29 PM |
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Because many of them are! We learned that clearly during the primaries. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:01 PM |
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No, but I think it's odd that with all the mistakes Clinton made, no one blames |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-14-10 06:28 PM |
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No one blames Clinton? On DU? |
muffin1 |
Jun-14-10 06:41 PM |
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If my post isn't directed at you, then there's no need for you to respond to me, is there? |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:03 PM |
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First of all, I'm responding to your reply to ME. |
muffin1 |
Jun-15-10 12:21 PM |
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I think we are both responding to someone else's post, because I DID NOT say |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:43 PM |
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I most certainly do |
spoony |
Jun-14-10 11:25 PM |
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Again, you can attack me all you want. But if my words *assumptions* |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:10 PM |
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So you call a bunch of people you don't know racists and whine about being "attacked" |
spoony |
Jun-15-10 10:34 PM |
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+1 |
suzie |
Jun-15-10 09:16 AM |
#150 |
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Oh, that tired talking point again! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-15-10 01:05 AM |
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Right. And, I'm not suggesting that I would support him if he does that. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:20 PM |
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Given our experience with Clinton |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-15-10 02:57 PM |
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Your answer is that Obama be given eight years to deregulate, privatize, and screw up as an equal |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-15-10 08:16 AM |
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NO! Wrong!! Please think before writing trash like this. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 12:26 PM |
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I did think before I wrote, you just don't like the result |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-15-10 06:14 PM |
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I don't disagree with this assessment re: Robinson, but I still can't |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-15-10 07:23 PM |
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I can agree to disagree about Clinton, at the very least. Like I said |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-15-10 08:03 PM |
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I don't see any difference... |
Grinchie |
Jun-14-10 06:15 PM |
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Jun-14-10 09:28 PM |
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yes, palin would be the exact same as obama. you are a genius. |
dionysus |
Jun-15-10 12:23 PM |
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I'm trying to think of something Obama has done that the Republicans haven't |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-15-10 01:02 AM |
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The healthcare bill contains every republican idea |
niceypoo |
Jun-15-10 09:17 AM |
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If we average one of these threads per week until November of 2012 |
hulka38 |
Jun-15-10 03:26 AM |
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They would |
treestar |
Jun-15-10 06:03 AM |
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Fail |
Tailormyst |
Jun-15-10 12:03 PM |
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If you fail to vote for Obama, our COUNTRY will fail. We'll go back to being despised by the |
jenmito |
Jun-15-10 12:34 PM |
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Double fail. |
emilyg |
Jun-15-10 12:59 PM |
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If only HILLARY were president! |
jenmito |
Jun-15-10 01:04 PM |
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Possibly so. |
emilyg |
Jun-15-10 06:32 PM |
#175 |
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are you serious? |
DonCoquixote |
Jun-16-10 06:16 AM |
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Fail |
Tailormyst |
Jun-15-10 04:07 PM |
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Just put "VOTE OBAMA OR ELSE BOOGA BOOGA" in your sigline |
spoony |
Jun-15-10 10:36 PM |
#180 |
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I'll vote for every progressive Democrat on the ballot. |
branders seine |
Jun-15-10 05:48 PM |
#172 |
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false argument |
backwoodsbob |
Jun-15-10 06:30 PM |
#174 |
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Palin would not be the GOP nominee. GOPers mostly do not like her. |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-15-10 07:10 PM |
#176 |
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Palin is not getting the nomination...rest assured n/t |
golfguru |
Jun-15-10 10:52 PM |
#182 |
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Translation: |
niceypoo |
Jun-16-10 02:36 AM |
#185 |