besdayz
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Sun Jun-06-10 07:04 PM
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all over again....
crappy first term after all the hype and talk....but then a landslide victory due to personal popularity.....
palin is their ferraro, romney their mondale....
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| -Can Obama win in 2012, given today's climate? The Republicans have no real leader. |
secondwind |
Jun-06-10 04:36 PM |
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the reign of the conservative dems may continue, or perhaps we can get liberal/progressive? nt |
msongs |
Jun-06-10 04:38 PM |
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Yes. I think he'll continue to work toward goals, and many will have |
gateley |
Jun-06-10 04:39 PM |
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The goals he's "working toward" are shitty corporate goals, and he's working toward |
salguine |
Jun-07-10 08:45 AM |
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+1000 |
MissDeeds |
Jun-09-10 08:35 PM |
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Yes. Clinton won in 1996 despite weak Congressional elections |
gory |
Jun-06-10 04:40 PM |
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Only two ways he loses ... |
Cosmocat |
Jun-06-10 05:19 PM |
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That was the whole idea |
bluestateguy |
Jun-06-10 07:03 PM |
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The problem with Obama |
Bullet1987 |
Jun-06-10 04:41 PM |
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He did not abandon anyone. Many on the left abandoned him less than 100 days into his presidency |
impik |
Jun-06-10 04:50 PM |
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Disagree with you there. Who are they gonna vote for? Palin? Obama in a landslide! |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-06-10 09:22 PM |
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You seem to wish that on people a lot |
depakid |
Jun-06-10 09:57 PM |
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Obama & his stooge, Rahm, have made it clear he doesn't need the left |
dflprincess |
Jun-06-10 10:11 PM |
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When exactly did Obama "have made it clear he doesn't need the left"? |
impik |
Jun-07-10 12:51 AM |
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He cannot be abandoned by those he never really had in the first place. |
Beacool |
Jun-06-10 05:07 PM |
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Whaaaaaaat? |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-06-10 08:30 PM |
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Horseshit. He won by 10 million votes and the enthusiasm quotient |
saltpoint |
Jun-06-10 10:16 PM |
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That enthusiasm won't be there in 2012 now that we know who he really is |
martymar64 |
Jun-09-10 08:58 AM |
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And who is not likely to be challenged from either his left or his right. |
saltpoint |
Jun-09-10 07:52 PM |
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He also beat HRC. Was she too unbearable to consider as well?! n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-07-10 04:43 PM |
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To some people she may have been. |
Beacool |
Jun-08-10 03:00 PM |
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Exactly |
martymar64 |
Jun-09-10 08:57 AM |
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Well, I won't ever vote again for any Democrat just because he/she has a "D" after his/her name. |
Beacool |
Jun-09-10 08:14 PM |
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Actually, all the current polling out there shows extreme dislike of Obama only by conservatives |
Jennicut |
Jun-06-10 06:07 PM |
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Yuppers. Isn't he still high with Independents though? n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-07-10 04:43 PM |
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He's going to have a hard time getting progressives excited. |
HooptieWagon |
Jun-06-10 08:43 PM |
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Yes he can win. The republicans' current leader is Palin. Their base and media love her and she |
AlinPA |
Jun-06-10 04:47 PM |
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If we can get some job growth he will have an easy go of it. |
harun |
Jun-06-10 04:47 PM |
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I'm not even sure he'll run again. Why would he. |
impik |
Jun-06-10 04:51 PM |
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yeah, cause there is so much more out there for him ... |
Cosmocat |
Jun-06-10 05:17 PM |
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The point might be, "Why bother when he gets so much shit from all sides?" |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-06-10 06:49 PM |
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What he's always done: helping people who will actually appreciate him |
impik |
Jun-07-10 12:48 AM |
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LOL ... |
Cosmocat |
Jun-07-10 11:35 AM |
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He didn't pursue the job out of naivete |
niceypoo |
Jun-07-10 11:47 AM |
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Is that wishful thinking? |
Beacool |
Jun-08-10 03:02 PM |
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If he runs...he'll win. Republicans just keep losing. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-06-10 04:52 PM |
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If Obama is NOT on the ballot as Demiocratic candidate in 2012, |
pnorman |
Jun-06-10 04:54 PM |
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* |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-06-10 07:58 PM |
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Obama may well be so unpopular by that time that even a nutter can beat him |
depakid |
Jun-06-10 08:30 PM |
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The next Republican presidency will KILL America DEAD. |
HughBeaumont |
Jun-08-10 04:43 AM |
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If people voted against the GOP in 2008 and are pissed at Obama for acting |
Lorien |
Jun-09-10 08:23 PM |
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I can't see anybody else winning |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-06-10 05:42 PM |
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The Republicans have nothing... |
Imajika |
Jun-06-10 06:03 PM |
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The GOPs 'legitimate contenders' are all loonies too |
niceypoo |
Jun-07-10 11:53 AM |
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If he does not take his opponent lightly, I think his prospects are good |
bluestateguy |
Jun-06-10 06:49 PM |
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it will be 1984 |
besdayz |
Jun-06-10 07:04 PM |
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The economic conditions may look more like 1992 |
depakid |
Jun-06-10 07:17 PM |
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you are exactly right |
Uzybone |
Jun-08-10 03:47 PM |
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If Obama's approval stays at around 50% through 2010 and 11, he'll walk in 12. |
Drunken Irishman |
Jun-06-10 07:23 PM |
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He no longer has my vote |
pmorlan1 |
Jun-06-10 07:30 PM |
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You voted for Obama in 2004? |
Arugula Latte |
Jun-06-10 09:48 PM |
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He DID give a very good speech! nt |
verges |
Jun-06-10 10:25 PM |
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Sorry 2008 |
pmorlan1 |
Jun-07-10 08:51 PM |
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uh. huh. |
dionysus |
Jun-07-10 08:37 AM |
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Same old tired Angry Left talking points |
Political Tiger |
Jun-07-10 10:21 AM |
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You're right. We should just all learn to love Big Brother |
martymar64 |
Jun-09-10 09:02 AM |
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if we point to you, it will be to laugh |
mkultra |
Jun-07-10 11:55 AM |
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Siiiiiiiiigggghh . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Jun-08-10 04:52 AM |
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Yeah, whatever..we can count you out then. goodbye. |
Cha |
Jun-08-10 10:14 AM |
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six years from now... |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-06-10 07:59 PM |
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I think you are right. He is the best person for the job. |
Xenotime |
Jun-08-10 03:03 PM |
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the biggest problem for Obama is what I heard on CNN today |
volvoblue |
Jun-06-10 08:11 PM |
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That should not be news to anyone paying any attention to the MSM. |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-06-10 08:33 PM |
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True |
Robbins |
Jun-07-10 12:14 PM |
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The President might be vulnerable if a persuasive candidacy could |
saltpoint |
Jun-06-10 09:57 PM |
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Bloomberg won't run he doesn't have the stomach for it |
oviedodem |
Jun-07-10 10:05 AM |
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It really is funny seeing all the sky is falling people when in this environment Obama is still in |
WI_DEM |
Jun-07-10 09:57 AM |
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It is going to be tough. Remember republicans don't need a leader |
oviedodem |
Jun-07-10 10:04 AM |
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Sometimes the simple notion is the most accurate |
niceypoo |
Jun-07-10 11:56 AM |
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I think Obama will be re-elected |
karynnj |
Jun-07-10 11:03 AM |
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Yes, Obama can and will win... |
kjackson227 |
Jun-07-10 12:01 PM |
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But if you listen to some of the comments around here lately |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-07-10 02:12 PM |
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Depends on who the Republican run and how the economy is doing |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-07-10 02:53 PM |
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They've got nothing. Obama should win comfortably. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-07-10 04:22 PM |
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Clinton lost both houses of congress after 2 years, yet won reelection in a landslide |
ShadowLiberal |
Jun-07-10 09:08 PM |
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And the GOP really and truly does not have a candidate. |
saltpoint |
Jun-07-10 09:18 PM |
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Right now, he'd lose to any Republican in a landslide defeat |
Politics_Guy27 |
Jun-07-10 11:47 PM |
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Agreed. nt |
Phoonzang |
Jun-08-10 03:25 PM |
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Bullshit. |
Blue-Jay |
Jun-08-10 03:29 PM |
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Nonsense. America has had enough of the Selfservatives |
Lorien |
Jun-09-10 08:25 PM |
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they will slowly come to realize the only one who can unite their mess is: JEBtm |
JCMach1 |
Jun-08-10 12:54 AM |
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IMO, John Thune will be in the running and will give Palin a fight. nt |
AlinPA |
Jun-08-10 09:28 PM |
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I just came from posting on a conservative site on a "who can beat Obama in '12" thread... |
old mark |
Jun-08-10 01:15 AM |
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President Obama will win by 6 to 7%, and take 312 to 335 electorial votes |
mikekohr |
Jun-08-10 04:49 AM |
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I think you're absolutely correct-I'm thinking 315 EVs or so for the prez myself |
Politics_Guy27 |
Jun-08-10 10:03 AM |
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If it all hinges on my vote then he's in trouble. n/t |
Ganja Ninja |
Jun-09-10 09:05 AM |
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If he has a Liberal/Progressive challenger in the primaries, then I would say probably not. eom |
NorthCarolina |
Jun-09-10 07:57 PM |
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