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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 06:55 AM
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169. well said
it's kind of hard for Obama to dig the country out of a hole when the thugs and the bloviators keep blowing things up all around him.

From the way some folks say that "Obama should do something about the oil leak", I ask "what do you want him to do? Put on a dive suit, armed with some Dawn dishwashing liquid and a Tide chaser and disperse the oil?"

If that damn oil rig had been built correctly and maintained correctly, chances are this explosion would not have happened:
April 20

The oil company BP owned a well about 40 miles offshore from southeast Louisiana and a mile under the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. BP contracted Transocean Ltd. to drill the well and Halliburton Inc. to cement it.

Transocean owned and operated the drilling rig named "Deepwater Horizon" and an emergency shut-off valve on the well known as a "blowout preventer."

For reasons likely due to the failure of the well's cement casing, natural gas exploded from the well on April 20. Propelled from a depth of 5,000 feet, mud shot into the air.

Some thing to keep in mind when trying to assign blame:

Deepwater Horizon was an ultra-deepwater, dynamically positioned, semi-submersible offshore drilling rig. The rig was built in 2001 in South Korea, is owned by Transocean and was leased to BP plc until September 2013.<4> Deepwater Horizon was registered in Majuro, Marshall Islands. In September 2009, the rig drilled the deepest oil well in history at a vertical depth of 35,050 ft (10,680 m) and measured depth of 35,055 ft (10,685 m).<5>

On April 20, 2010, an explosion on the rig left eleven crewmen dead. The resulting fire could not be extinguished, and on April 22, 2010, the rig sank, leaving the well gushing, causing the largest oil spill in the United States.

Designed originally for R&B Falcon, Deepwater Horizon was built by Hyundai Heavy Industries in Ulsan, South Korea. Construction started in December 1998 and the rig was delivered in February 2001 after the acquisition of R&B Falcon by Transocean. It was the second semi-submersible rig constructed of a class of two, although the Deepwater Nautilus, her predecessor, is not dynamically positioned. Since arriving in the Gulf of Mexico, Deepwater Horizon was under contract to BP Exploration. Its work included wells in the Atlantis and Thunder Horse Oil Fields, a 2006 discovery in the Kaskida field, and the 2009 Tiber oilfield.<8><9> On September 2, 2009, Deepwater Horizon drilled on the Tiber oilfield with a vertical depth of 35,050 ft (10,683 m) and measured depth of 35,055 ft (10,685 m), of which 4,132 ft (1,259 m) was water, which was at the time the deepest oil well in the world.<9><10><11><12> The well was more than 5,000 feet deeper than the design specification on the company's fleet list.
The need for clean energy is a clear priority, as Federal accident reports issued on offshore wells uncovers that faulty cementing process was to blame in oil disasters at least thirty-four times since 1978. Many of the reports, available from the U.S. Minerals Management Service that regulates offshore wells, identify the cause simply as "poor cement job." Halliburton is responsible for the Deepwater Horizon job, mixes in nitrogen to make its slurry more elastic.

For now, despite efforts we continue to witness the BP oil Deepwater Horizon environmental disaster that will have long-term impacts both ecological and economic throughout the Gulf region. Unfortunately, at times history often repeats itself as faulty Halliburton cement is being investigated as the most likely culprit. Live video link from the ROV monitoring the damaged riser
-- For example, the November 2005 accident where the Deepwater Horizon was positioned above another well in the Gulf, faulty cement work allowed wall-supporting steel casing to come apart. Almost 15,000 gallons of drilling fluid spilled into the Gulf.
-- Just a week later in a nearby well at another platform, cement improperly seeped through drilling fluid. As a result of an additive meant to quicken setting time, the cement then failed to block a gas influx into the well. When the crew finally replaced heavy drilling fluid with lighter seawater, as they also did last month before the blowout at Deepwater Horizon, the well flowed out of control and much of the crew had to be evacuated.
-- Cementing was identified by federal investigators as a glaring cause of an August 2007 blowout, also off Louisiana. They said, "The cement quality is very poor, showing what looks like large areas of no cement."

Obama didn't take office until 2009. These are examples of the chickens coming home to roost for cheney/haliburton. Cheney and the oil lobby wrote the energy policy that made all of this fukkery possible.
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  -Cinderella Obama: I Think this Cartoon Says it All! Moonwalk  Jun-05-10 12:10 PM   #0 
  - K + R a google!  patrice   Jun-05-10 12:13 PM   #1 
  - I'd feel sorry for Cinderella if he didn't sign up for it.  mikelgb   Jun-05-10 12:13 PM   #2 
  - +1  DJ13   Jun-05-10 12:15 PM   #3 
  - see that some on the left are taking a page from republicans and  volvoblue   Jun-05-10 12:19 PM   #5 
  - Actions have consequences  DJ13   Jun-05-10 12:26 PM   #10 
  - what on earth led you to believe that 30 years of those policies AND entrenched corporate interests  unblock   Jun-05-10 12:35 PM   #16 
  - If you're swimming with sharks do you try to be nice to them?  DJ13   Jun-05-10 12:41 PM   #19 
  - for the most part he didn't compromise with republicans, not really  unblock   Jun-05-10 12:48 PM   #22 
  - The bar keeps getting raised  dflprincess   Jun-05-10 05:18 PM   #59 
  - They need 60 progressive or moderate Democrats  Hansel   Jun-05-10 05:49 PM   #63 
     - We have 59 seats  dflprincess   Jun-05-10 09:22 PM   #124 
     - Your post would have some credibility, IF  bvar22   Jun-05-10 10:59 PM   #143 
     - Don't forget his Chief of Staff's opinion of liberals.  liberation   Jun-06-10 05:40 AM   #160 
     - That's the thing....  sheldon   Jun-06-10 12:09 AM   #145 
     - It would only take ONE progressive ass-kicking LEADER to get this done  Fiendish Thingy   Jun-06-10 09:59 AM   #204 
     - YES!!!! YOU get it!  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 10:47 AM   #218 
     - Democrats calling out the left to demonstrate would have made a huge difference re health care ....  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:41 AM   #224 
     - Exactly . . .!!  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:42 AM   #225 
     - They are not making them actually filibuster . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 10:02 AM   #207 
     - Shit. If we had just 50 actual Democrats in the Senate, we could be unstoppable.  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-06-10 01:42 PM   #241 
  - you're kidding right???  obxhead   Jun-05-10 06:12 PM   #65 
  - I am getting health insurance beginning  WhiteTara   Jun-05-10 09:26 PM   #126 
  - Ah, yes. The old. . ..  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 01:32 PM   #239 
     - nothing of the sort  WhiteTara   Jun-06-10 02:34 PM   #242 
  - what i meant was that the real negotiations were with the insurance companies and the blue dogs  unblock   Jun-06-10 09:15 AM   #197 
  - "Ideal" is the new "pony" . . . ????  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 10:06 AM   #211 
  - Correct -- and the credit card reform was another sham . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 10:04 AM   #209 
  - The only reason "the compromising was mostly done with blue dogs" was because...  ClassWarrior   Jun-06-10 07:47 AM   #186 
     - Otoh, it really isn't about the time Obama has had . . . it's about the opportunities he's had ...  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:00 AM   #221 
     - Your sig is 8 months out of date  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 01:34 PM   #240 
  - yeah, actually you do.  Teaser   Jun-06-10 08:15 PM   #251 
  - Don't forget, the federal bureauracy is packed with Cheney/Bush  tblue37   Jun-05-10 01:47 PM   #40 
  - Same thing happened with Clinton, though penetration of  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:13 AM   #222 
  - We've had a couple of recesses, recess appointments are the tool to fight obstructionists.  glitch   Jun-06-10 12:27 PM   #234 
  - I'll go with your reply  pnorman   Jun-05-10 10:53 PM   #142 
  - You are a winner nt  flamingdem   Jun-06-10 02:24 AM   #155 
  - thank you  SemperEadem   Jun-06-10 05:51 AM   #165 
  - While I agree with you partially  Enthusiast   Jun-06-10 06:46 AM   #168 
  - 30 years? from when to when  throwfocus   Jun-06-10 07:36 AM   #184 
  - You hit that nail ~ Bingo!  goclark   Jun-06-10 08:59 AM   #196 
  - What could be done -- MEDICARE FOR ALL, for instance --- has not been done ....  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 09:59 AM   #205 
  - So far  dotymed   Jun-06-10 10:49 AM   #219 
  - Are you serious?  bobburgster   Jun-05-10 02:56 PM   #46 
  - Wow, nice broad brush there.  Arkana   Jun-05-10 07:19 PM   #72 
  - "the most sweeping financial reform the country's seen since Glass-Steagall "  dflprincess   Jun-05-10 09:25 PM   #125 
  - No kidding... and Obama is the best president since George W. Bush.  liberation   Jun-06-10 05:33 AM   #157 
  - +1 nt  Enthusiast   Jun-06-10 07:13 AM   #171 
  - What was done to rein  Enthusiast   Jun-06-10 07:18 AM   #173 
  - On November 5, more likely.  suzie   Jun-06-10 08:00 AM   #188 
  - precisely.  krkaufman   Jun-05-10 10:11 PM   #132 
  - You are a loser nt  flamingdem   Jun-06-10 02:23 AM   #154 
     - Ahhh, the ad hominem  liberation   Jun-06-10 05:35 AM   #158 
        - it got you to respond  SemperEadem   Jun-06-10 05:54 AM   #166 
  - Some of them are about power, not solutions.  patrice   Jun-05-10 12:55 PM   #24 
  - I agree!  bobburgster   Jun-05-10 02:51 PM   #44 
  - Amazing, isn't it?  treestar   Jun-05-10 03:01 PM   #48 
  - Since "Cinderella" is neither poor nor unsuccessful nor disabled nor  Tansy_Gold   Jun-05-10 06:31 PM   #68 
     - I mean the general liberal attitude of forgiveness, tolerance  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:01 AM   #206 
        - Look.  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 10:43 AM   #217 
           - The authoritarian personality  treestar   Jun-06-10 06:25 PM   #246 
              - Let's see.  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 07:46 PM   #247 
  - Yep. See it here a lot. nt  Hansel   Jun-05-10 06:27 PM   #67 
  - Whose humanity has turned to stone? Salazar for letting BP kill the gulf? Bernanke for spitting on  rhett o rick   Jun-05-10 11:53 PM   #144 
  - +1000% ---  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:44 AM   #226 
     - Yes, it seems that they are demanding mediocracy or less.  rhett o rick   Jun-06-10 01:12 PM   #236 
  - Rather, the victims of corporatism are always humans and the planet . . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 09:56 AM   #203 
  - these issues are the fault of republicans AND they are doing their best to prevent ANY solution  unblock   Jun-05-10 12:29 PM   #13 
  - If Obama had stood up for the average person against the GOP's policies  DJ13   Jun-05-10 12:36 PM   #17 
     - the republicans set out to be the party of "no" from day one.  unblock   Jun-05-10 12:46 PM   # 
     - you're only guessing that a more confrontational strategy would have been more effective  DJ13   Jun-05-10 01:04 PM   #27 
     - Obama's political strategy was about unity and finding common ground  gravity   Jun-05-10 01:17 PM   #32 
        - And the status quo REMAINS the status quo  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 08:04 PM   #250 
     - One effect of his constant attempts to play nice with Republicans is  tblue37   Jun-05-10 01:51 PM   #41 
     - The repugs are what they are . . . the corporate party . . . no change there . .. !! However...  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 11:56 AM   #228 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-05-10 01:25 PM   #33 
     - Last I checked it was the Senate Blue Dogs that weakened  MadMaddie   Jun-05-10 03:46 PM   #52 
  - +1000% . . . last words before BP spill: "These rigs don't spill anymore" . . .!!!  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 09:52 AM   #201 
  - God, he didn't know he would have A WICKED STEPMOTHER!  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-05-10 12:20 PM   #6 
  - AND half a nation of Ugly Step-sisters piling on the work and hoping that he fails.  patrice   Jun-05-10 01:36 PM   #36 
     - and a rather rotund ugly sister called Rush  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-05-10 04:16 PM   #53 
  - exactly. As messy/nasty as it is or can get, it comes with the job  Go2Peace   Jun-05-10 12:22 PM   #8 
  - and those who are making it nastier and messier for him  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-05-10 12:31 PM   #15 
     - Maybe he should stop trying to make nice with them then...  liberation   Jun-06-10 05:46 AM   #163 
  - That is just adding insult to injury  gravity   Jun-05-10 01:07 PM   #30 
  - well said  SemperEadem   Jun-06-10 06:55 AM   #169 
  - When Obama is siding with the oil industry and nuclear power industry ... and health care industry..  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 12:01 PM   #229 
  - Bush would've been vacationing at Camp David right now.  tqla   Jun-05-10 01:10 PM   #31 
  - or choking on pretzels watching football  WhiteTara   Jun-05-10 09:30 PM   #128 
  - he was usually at the ranch clearing branches  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 12:59 AM   #146 
  - Doesn't matter who has the job  treestar   Jun-05-10 03:01 PM   #47 
  - +1  UrbScotty   Jun-05-10 07:36 PM   #77 
  - +2  HughMoran   Jun-05-10 07:50 PM   #83 
  - I can still picture him at the table with Michelle the morning after the banks  BR_Parkway   Jun-05-10 05:29 PM   #61 
  - the presidency is a thankless job  SemperEadem   Jun-06-10 05:49 AM   #164 
  - I'd feel sorry for Cinderella if he didn't surround himself with those who  davidwparker   Jun-06-10 12:17 PM   #233 
  - It's a good one!  CaliforniaPeggy   Jun-05-10 12:16 PM   #4 
  - I could add a handful more based on some of the things  janx   Jun-05-10 12:21 PM   #7 
  - I see that the birther mice are hiding in a "teapot".  lamp_shade   Jun-05-10 12:22 PM   #9 
  - Good catch.*  DrToast   Jun-05-10 12:28 PM   #11 
  - Nice catch.  bleever   Jun-05-10 12:28 PM   #12 
  - Just do your four years and rest Obama.  liquid diamond   Jun-05-10 12:29 PM   #14 
  - Unfortunately , I agree .......  Grassy Knoll   Jun-05-10 12:58 PM   #26 
  - Yep. This country doesn't deserve this man  impik   Jun-05-10 01:27 PM   #34 
  - We're not worthy! We're not worthy!  tekisui   Jun-06-10 07:47 PM   #248 
  - I'm hoping that too.  Whisp   Jun-05-10 05:14 PM   #57 
     - The amount of shit he gets from our own side is what kills me.  liquid diamond   Jun-05-10 06:59 PM   #70 
        - Ah..But if he wins again......  Grassy Knoll   Jun-05-10 10:35 PM   #136 
  - Perfect! And the mice holding that sign WAS funny! n/t  jenmito   Jun-05-10 12:36 PM   #18 
  - The mice element is hilarious!  janx   Jun-05-10 12:46 PM   #21 
  - Their in a's brilliant. n/t  vaberella   Jun-05-10 12:54 PM   #23 
     - ..  lamp_shade   Jun-05-10 03:17 PM   #49 
        - Hiya...Finals. Plus there was way too much hate and I had my own issues with the spill.  vaberella   Jun-06-10 05:17 AM   #156 
  - The op is toon # 2 in the series. THIS is toon #1.  Karenina   Jun-05-10 12:42 PM   #20 
  - This Was Just Payback By BushCo For All The W's Missing From The ......  global1   Jun-05-10 12:55 PM   #25 
     - Which actually never happened.  Beacool   Jun-05-10 01:04 PM   #28 
     - that was debunked...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-05-10 03:28 PM   #50 
        - Not one retraction.  Enthusiast   Jun-06-10 07:32 AM   #182 
           - damn liberal media  awoke_in_2003   Jun-06-10 11:55 AM   #227 
              - That's what they call it.  Enthusiast   Jun-06-10 06:11 PM   #245 
  - No, I think this NAILS it  cilla4progress   Jun-05-10 01:05 PM   #29 
  - They forgot Immigration. It's his fault he didn't get to it yet!  FrenchieCat   Jun-05-10 01:29 PM   #35 
  - Oh for pete's sake.  woo me with science   Jun-05-10 01:40 PM   #37 
  - No. He's a fucking dethering asshole who should have fixed everyfucking thing  FrenchieCat   Jun-05-10 01:42 PM   #38 
  - You really think so?  woo me with science   Jun-05-10 02:37 PM   #43 
  - The cartoon is not about him.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 06:21 PM   #66 
     - I disagree.  woo me with science   Jun-05-10 07:43 PM   #80 
        - Because that's the way his critics see him.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 07:53 PM   #88 
           - Don't expect his critics from either side to get it.  JTFrog   Jun-06-10 07:13 AM   #172 
              - Then the cartoonist has failed. nt  woo me with science   Jun-06-10 01:20 PM   #237 
  - That is funny but Obama knows what he asked to take on.  Jennicut   Jun-05-10 01:47 PM   #39 
  - He did know. Still  ProSense   Jun-05-10 02:02 PM   #42 
     - I agree with you. There is clear media bias against a Democrat as President.  Jennicut   Jun-05-10 02:52 PM   #45 
  - Cindarella don't support the mass firings of urban teachers!  harry_pothead   Jun-05-10 03:36 PM   #51 
  - Cinderella  ProSense   Jun-05-10 04:19 PM   #54 
  - K&R  Mira   Jun-05-10 04:47 PM   #55 
  - and he turns into a corporatist shill bumpkin at midnight.  Whisp   Jun-05-10 05:04 PM   #56 
  - I'm sure everyone remembers -  northofdenali   Jun-05-10 05:16 PM   #58 
  - If Obama is Cinderella, then when is the Fairy Godmother showing up?  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-05-10 05:18 PM   #60 
  - Yes, the "mice" are a nice  Cha   Jun-05-10 05:31 PM   #62 
  - POOR OBAMA. I weep for him. It's so hard to be president. Poor baby.  readmoreoften   Jun-05-10 06:03 PM   #64 
  - "Idiot son had a pantload on his plate as well. "  ProSense   Jun-05-10 07:21 PM   #74 
  - Tell me about it. The fucked up thing about this cartoon is that it paints people  salguine   Jun-07-10 12:30 AM   #253 
  - Good to see people coming to Obama's defense.  disndat   Jun-05-10 06:38 PM   #69 
  - Cinderella did not have  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 07:17 PM   #71 
  - Cinderella also did not have  ProSense   Jun-05-10 07:19 PM   #73 
  - Picture perfect.  rug   Jun-05-10 07:24 PM   #75 
  - I don't get it?  ProSense   Jun-05-10 07:33 PM   #76 
     - The OP compared the President to a cartoon.  rug   Jun-05-10 07:41 PM   #79 
     - The analogy was situational.  ProSense   Jun-05-10 07:51 PM   #85 
        - Maybe but the situations are not analagous.  rug   Jun-05-10 08:02 PM   #90 
     - The President could drone attack his evil sisters  hulka38   Jun-05-10 07:52 PM   #86 
  - Comparing the President  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:12 PM   #95 
  - "To a powerless servant girl waiting for her fairy godmother is kind of admission of failure."  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:17 PM   #96 
  - The President is on a dress  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:19 PM   #99 
  - If that is what the cartoon was doing that would be true. But it is not.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 08:18 PM   #98 
     - I would not be flattered. Nt  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:23 PM   #102 
        - Why, because it would upset you that the Tea-Baggers saw you as Cinderella?  Hansel   Jun-05-10 08:26 PM   #104 
           - If I wasn't mistaken  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 09:20 PM   #122 
  - I agree with Prosense  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 01:06 AM   #147 
     - Not surprised nt  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 07:22 AM   #175 
  - Okay, this cartoon is not that hard to get.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 07:41 PM   #78 
  - Anger masks reason  HughMoran   Jun-05-10 07:52 PM   #87 
     - The President was compared to a poweless Servant girl  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:21 PM   #100 
        - That is not the comparison.  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:23 PM   #101 
        - Oh I get it  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:26 PM   #103 
           - "Shame such a nasty cartoon has so many recs. "  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:28 PM   #105 
              - I'm not so sure he doesn't get it.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 08:29 PM   #107 
              - Showing the man in the most powerful political office yet devised  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:33 PM   #110 
                 - "As Cinderella, is not comforting to me, or the times. Supporters cheering it is even odder."  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:34 PM   #111 
                 - It is whining  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:51 PM   #116 
                    - Complete misread and inaccurate.  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:55 PM   #118 
                    - No I don't think I am  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 09:17 PM   #121 
                       - Here's what I take away from this comment:  ProSense   Jun-05-10 09:22 PM   #123 
                          - Here is what I take away from this exchange  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 09:30 PM   #127 
                             - So be it. n/t  ProSense   Jun-05-10 09:32 PM   #130 
                    - So the President can snap his fingers and what he wants happens.  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:07 AM   #212 
                 - The presidency is not the most powerful political office ever devised!  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:04 AM   #210 
        - It's called an analogy  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:03 AM   #208 
        - working dutifully and waiting to be rescued by Prince Charming. Creepy as HELL.  glitch   Jun-06-10 12:39 PM   #235 
        - Exactly. The victim card is never attractive nt  woo me with science   Jun-06-10 01:25 PM   #238 
  - nasty!  HughMoran   Jun-05-10 07:51 PM   #84 
  - If I were in office  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:17 PM   #97 
     - It's not about you, and  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:31 PM   #108 
        - Makes him look weak  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:36 PM   #112 
           - I think it makes his critics look unreasonable. n/t  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:38 PM   #113 
              - Well you are the one cheering a cartoon that implies  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 08:40 PM   #114 
                 - Again, the cartoon implies no such thing. If that's your understanding, fine. n/t  ProSense   Jun-05-10 08:44 PM   #115 
                    - Ah but it does  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 09:31 PM   #129 
                       - Perhaps you don't want to get it because maybe it hits a little too close to home.  Hansel   Jun-06-10 07:21 AM   #174 
                          - Hardly  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 07:23 AM   #177 
                             - Then you do understand the cartoon. nt  Hansel   Jun-06-10 07:30 AM   #181 
                                - Like I said  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 07:37 AM   #185 
                                   - I don't either.  Hansel   Jun-06-10 07:58 AM   #187 
                                      - She has a magical fairy that grants her a wish  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 08:04 AM   #190 
                                         - I just watched Alice in Wonderland. I agree. nt  Hansel   Jun-06-10 06:02 PM   #244 
  - Armed forces at his disposal?  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:08 AM   #213 
     - We haven't declared war in 69 years  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 10:32 AM   #216 
  - Good cartoon  Richd506   Jun-05-10 07:48 PM   #81 
  - Being the President is hard work?  hulka38   Jun-05-10 07:48 PM   #82 
  - Whatever he does  ProSense   Jun-05-10 07:59 PM   #89 
  - It seems that the story "Cinderella" went over the heads of many.  Hansel   Jun-05-10 08:06 PM   #92 
  - If there is some truth to tell then shine a light.  hulka38   Jun-05-10 10:20 PM   #133 
     - Well the light is shining bright enough to spot those huddling with the little mice. n/t  JTFrog   Jun-06-10 07:29 AM   #180 
        - +1. nt  Hansel   Jun-06-10 08:00 AM   #189 
        - You're saying that the criticisms of the left from people like Reich, Rich  hulka38   Jun-06-10 09:54 AM   #202 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-10 10:53 AM   #220 
  - He never does enough.  hulka38   Jun-05-10 10:33 PM   #135 
  - No, that is not the revelation. nt  Hansel   Jun-05-10 08:02 PM   #91 
  - Excellent!  GoddessOfGuinness   Jun-05-10 08:06 PM   #93 
  - He Needs a Leg Breaker - or some kind of backup  radhika   Jun-05-10 08:07 PM   #94 
  - Today I was thinking who in the world could handle such a job. I would never.  midnight   Jun-05-10 08:29 PM   #106 
  - Don't run for it than nt.  AllentownJake   Jun-05-10 09:32 PM   #131 
  - WHEW! nt  orbitalman   Jun-05-10 08:32 PM   #109 
  - Remember when Bush came to .......  N_E_1 for Tennis   Jun-05-10 08:54 PM   #117 
  - That is an urban legend.  Swede   Jun-06-10 11:21 AM   #223 
  - The biggest gripe Bush had  boomerbust   Jun-05-10 08:55 PM   #119 
  - Obama ran on Change we can believe in.  WoodyM   Jun-05-10 09:05 PM   #120 
  - Exactly.  Capitalocracy   Jun-05-10 10:40 PM   #138 
  - so what is the alternative?  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 01:20 AM   #150 
  - He's going slower in the wrong direction  hulka38   Jun-05-10 10:43 PM   #140 
  - being a Democratic peresident is more difficult in a corporate owned country  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 01:14 AM   #148 
     - At some point, your biggest problem becomes convincing  hulka38   Jun-06-10 09:47 AM   #199 
  - I have never in my life seen a Democrat in office so detested by Democrats.  Dr Morbius   Jun-05-10 10:30 PM   #134 
  - +1000  CakeGrrl   Jun-05-10 10:36 PM   #137 
  - And the crises!  Dr Morbius   Jun-05-10 10:42 PM   #139 
  - no other person would be better than Obama  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 01:16 AM   #149 
     - That is a silly statement that can't be backed up  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 08:33 AM   #192 
        - you know what Obama or any Democratic president is dealing with then  Rosa Luxemburg   Jun-06-10 02:49 PM   #243 
  - they aren't Democrats  JI7   Jun-05-10 10:46 PM   #141 
  - What is a democrat  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 08:36 AM   #193 
  - Were you alive in 1968?  rug   Jun-06-10 07:03 AM   #170 
  - President Palin again  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 08:32 AM   #191 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-06-10 08:46 AM   #195 
  - Exactly! But these people are not Dems. nt  CBR   Jun-06-10 08:38 AM   #194 
  - The "left's" president, exactly  treestar   Jun-06-10 10:09 AM   #214 
     - I hate it when he is called from the Left  AllentownJake   Jun-06-10 10:29 AM   #215 
        - Agree . . . suggesting Obama is of the left, is like saying W was a centrist -- !!  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 12:03 PM   #230 
  - Instead of whining and criticizing, get off the sidelines, act up!  chuck97   Jun-06-10 01:30 AM   #151 
  - WELCOME TO DU! and edited to add a big THANK YOU re all the whiners! n/t  1Hippiechick   Jun-06-10 07:25 AM   #179 
  - Very well said! Welcome to DU,  JTFrog   Jun-06-10 07:34 AM   #183 
  - I'm Honored that your first post on the DU is on this cartoon that I posted and I'd like to say...  Moonwalk   Jun-06-10 12:10 PM   #231 
  - Notice that the right wing creates demonstrators/T-Party folk...while the Dem Party ignores  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 12:12 PM   #232 
     - How many of you do I think haven't been involved in campagns and such?...  Moonwalk   Jun-06-10 08:03 PM   #249 
  - I saw it in B/W it was brilliant. Color is OK too.  Loudmxr   Jun-06-10 01:38 AM   #152 
  - You Know...  Phlem   Jun-06-10 02:22 AM   #153 
  - Regardless, the one over-riding fact is that to "win"  pokercat999   Jun-06-10 05:39 AM   #159 
  - Cinderella Wept...  Hubert Flottz   Jun-06-10 05:43 AM   #161 
  - If anything Obama is probably closer to a Hans Christian Andersen character...  liberation   Jun-06-10 05:45 AM   #162 
  - Obama....  SILVER__FOX52   Jun-06-10 06:29 AM   #167 
  - Yes, I'm sure that's it.  Hansel   Jun-06-10 07:23 AM   #176 
     - +1  JTFrog   Jun-06-10 07:25 AM   #178 
  - He has allot of problems to deal with. It's to bad he prefers a GOP Lite approach of governing.  Geek_Girl   Jun-06-10 09:35 AM   #198 
  - There aren't a million pleas . . . it's all one problem :: elitism/corporatism  defendandprotect   Jun-06-10 09:51 AM   #200 
  - That is the job he signed up for, and to fair to President Obama,  ZombieHorde   Jun-07-10 12:16 AM   #252 

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