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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:01 AM
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30. Combat is an inherent part of training in such operations.
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 10:14 AM by leveymg
Most of those new U.S. troops will be seeing combat. Some of them will be casualties, and will be making Afghan "martyrs" by a more than 10/1 ratio. It's the martyrdom aspect that will create long-term problems for the U.S. This escalation is unnecessary and counter-productive to withdrawal, if that is indeed the objective. An escalation also is counter-productive as far as immediate costs are concerned, which are running at least half a million dollars a year for each additional soldier we put into Afghanistan. Or, doesn't that matter?
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  -Lots of pontificating.. but where are the solutions.. Peacetrain  Dec-02-09 09:19 AM   #0 
  - magic. magic solves everything. also obamasux.  Teaser   Dec-02-09 09:20 AM   #1 
  - That has been made abundantly clear, by some..  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:23 AM   #2 
  - more or less I agree  Teaser   Dec-02-09 09:47 AM   #20 
  - lol!  NYC_SKP   Dec-02-09 09:47 AM   #18 
  - I think the plan from some seems to be:  unpossibles   Dec-02-09 09:23 AM   #3 
  - Again, how do you do this.. we heard how Obama is planning to do it  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:26 AM   #6 
  - I know that what I want is no big mystery: I want to start leaving today.  phantom power   Dec-02-09 09:24 AM   #4 
  - Do you mean.. do a Vietnam and go out on choppers?  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:28 AM   #8 
     - To my knowledge, there is no need for that...  phantom power   Dec-02-09 09:35 AM   #12 
     - I'm thinking more like do a "Soviet Union" and leave Afghanistan. Or maybe we could do a British  John Q. Citizen   Dec-02-09 09:47 AM   #19 
        - I don't know John Q,, I don't know.. but the American people have been informed  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:53 AM   #25 
  - K&R  Richardo   Dec-02-09 09:26 AM   #5 
  - Why add troops just to pull them out? Or, do you believe "The Surge" worked in Iraq?  leveymg   Dec-02-09 09:28 AM   #7 
  - Well the right is foaming at the mouth because we set a time limit ...  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:31 AM   #9 
  - I have no problem with a timetable. Al-Qaeda is not the problem - only 100 in Afghanistan, and  leveymg   Dec-02-09 09:38 AM   # 
  - I believe 2/3rds are going to train Afghanistan people in security  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 09:40 AM   #16 
     - Yep that is what I heard.. and part to watch own backs as we come out of there  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:49 AM   #23 
     - I think it's pretty simple. Not as exciting as accusing him of being Bushlite.....  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 10:00 AM   #28 
     - Combat is an inherent part of training in such operations.  leveymg   Dec-02-09 10:01 AM   #30 
  - There is a way to win that only Chenney would support. Every General knows but is too polite to  CK_John   Dec-02-09 09:34 AM   #10 
  - The time line is an illusion, just like the public option is and was. The facts on the ground  John Q. Citizen   Dec-02-09 09:35 AM   #11 
  - What would you do? I am not trying to start a circular argument..  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:39 AM   #14 
     - I think I might pull the troops and send lots of aide and aide workers. I think  John Q. Citizen   Dec-02-09 10:03 AM   #31 
  - Oh...oooh-oooh magic! I'll just use magic!  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 09:38 AM   #13 
  - I wish I were as brilliant as so many here....  OneGrassRoot   Dec-02-09 09:39 AM   #15 
  - The sanest post I've read in some time.  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 09:43 AM   #17 
  - It seems we're neighbors :)  OneGrassRoot   Dec-02-09 09:48 AM   #22 
     - Really?  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 09:59 AM   #26 
        - Apex...  OneGrassRoot   Dec-02-09 09:59 AM   #27 
           - Ah...yep. Hi there!  NoSheep   Dec-02-09 10:01 AM   #29 
  - That is me.. If we dropped guns and just started heading to the borders, what  Peacetrain   Dec-02-09 09:48 AM   #21 
     - Every right wing Senator interviewed on NPR this morning praised Obama, with  John Q. Citizen   Dec-02-09 10:28 AM   #34 
  - Leave the world to the wolves and dissolve Congress so we can have single payer  BeyondGeography   Dec-02-09 09:51 AM   #24 
  - We will never leave.  ipaint   Dec-02-09 10:13 AM   #32 
  - Stop killing people.  Orsino   Dec-02-09 10:14 AM   #33 
  - The time-line is optimistic, ambitious and squishy, at best.  tekisui   Dec-02-09 10:40 AM   #35 
  - I don't. Even without the pressures Obama is getting hit with...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-02-09 11:27 AM   #36 
  - I'm going to nominate you to be Ambassador of something....  Clio the Leo   Dec-02-09 12:18 PM   #37 

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