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Thu May-27-10 09:25 AM
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| 56. that doesn't counter the "have you gone shopping lately" argument |
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You can't change the argument after the fact...
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| - 25 Questions To Ask Anyone Who Is Delusional Enough To Believe That This Economic Recovery Is Real |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 05:33 AM |
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Do you mean it's all just an illusion? |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 05:53 AM |
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Talk about measures that are of no use... |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 06:00 AM |
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It means that 76 percent have a personal definition of recession |
karynnj |
May-27-10 07:09 AM |
#18 |
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"Recession has a technical economic meaning and that has been met." |
Heywood J |
May-27-10 08:08 PM |
#107 |
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US money supply plunges at 1930s pace as Obama eyes fresh stimulus |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 05:56 AM |
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You are absolutely right on...it is all an illusion |
golfguru |
May-27-10 05:37 PM |
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One problem with this... |
Atman |
May-27-10 05:58 AM |
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I'd Like To Know Where You Are Shopping |
Demeter |
May-27-10 06:00 AM |
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"the smallest 12-month increase since January 1966" |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 07:49 AM |
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The trouble is wages are deflating. So that has the same affect as inflation. |
newthinking |
May-27-10 08:42 AM |
#44 |
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Exactly! Excellent point... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:03 AM |
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Excellent point if we were talking about wages |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:31 AM |
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And thank you for insinuating yourself into this post .... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:44 AM |
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Simply trying to stay on topic |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:48 AM |
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Food and Energy is EXCLUDED |
Hawkowl |
May-27-10 03:21 PM |
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that doesn't counter the "have you gone shopping lately" argument |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:25 AM |
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Name removed |
May-27-10 09:35 AM |
#64 |
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Can't make an argument, attack the poster personally |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:36 AM |
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And here I thought I was complimenting you on your creativity and honesty |
Demeter |
May-27-10 09:40 AM |
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"Less food and energy...." |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:02 AM |
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Ummm, those numbers aren't bad either |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:24 AM |
#55 |
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Yes, I did look... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:31 AM |
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Oh, I'll grant you that |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:34 AM |
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Oh, I hope it gets better, too..... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:48 AM |
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I understand |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:50 AM |
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I agree.... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 10:02 AM |
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Obviously you have not shopped for... |
golfguru |
May-27-10 05:43 PM |
#102 |
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If we take out two of the three biggest contributors to a family's budget, |
Heywood J |
May-27-10 08:10 PM |
#108 |
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That depends on where you live. |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 06:09 AM |
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Nor do I |
florida08 |
May-27-10 06:15 AM |
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Oil? Progress Energy is already charging us for 2 nukes they "might" build in 20 years. |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 07:52 AM |
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damn |
florida08 |
May-27-10 09:30 AM |
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Gaming the markets is a huge problem. What is happening to the "efficiency of the marketplace?" |
pundaint |
May-27-10 06:27 AM |
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Oil prices are pushing construction materials up |
Loge23 |
May-27-10 06:54 AM |
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Have you been in a grocery store lately? |
bread_and_roses |
May-27-10 06:12 AM |
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Ever heard of the Consumer Price Index? |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 07:47 AM |
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The Consumer Price Index is pure unadulterated, manipulated propaganda. |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 07:57 AM |
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Thank you Dr. Phool |
bread_and_roses |
May-27-10 08:47 AM |
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So you ROFL, then argue using the numbers |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 09:28 AM |
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Let's see..... |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 10:29 AM |
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CPI basket of goods. |
hay rick |
May-27-10 08:54 PM |
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Not where I'm buying groceries..... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 08:58 AM |
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Why is so hard to understand that we just beginning the recovery?? |
DCBob |
May-27-10 06:19 AM |
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but are we coming out of it? |
florida08 |
May-27-10 06:31 AM |
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What's with the "we" thing? |
Po_d Mainiac |
May-27-10 06:53 AM |
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"We" as a nation.. |
DCBob |
May-27-10 07:30 AM |
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Why Is It So Hard to Grasp That There Is No Recovery? |
Demeter |
May-27-10 09:39 AM |
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A recovery does get powered by government investment.. |
DCBob |
May-27-10 10:10 AM |
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yeah, you are ass backward |
mkultra |
May-30-10 09:43 AM |
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k & r |
girl gone mad |
May-27-10 06:37 AM |
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There can not be any recovery until we get our manufacturing jobs back into this country. |
RC |
May-27-10 06:43 AM |
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Exactly! |
DemReadingDU |
May-27-10 07:32 AM |
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+1000 |
Dappleganger |
May-27-10 09:14 AM |
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We can define any accomplishment so that it means nothing. But it doesnt make your definition right |
stevenleser |
May-27-10 10:56 AM |
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Are you sure you are at the right site? |
RC |
May-27-10 04:07 PM |
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we are the #1 manufacturer in the world. |
mkultra |
May-30-10 09:43 AM |
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I find the last two questions to be the most troubling. |
fasttense |
May-27-10 07:00 AM |
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Even the vegetables and fruit in Aldi's are more expensive |
BuelahWitch |
May-27-10 10:52 AM |
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2 reasons for price increase |
Hawkowl |
May-27-10 03:33 PM |
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It is not an illusion that we are in the "recovery" portion of this cycle. It is also true that |
karynnj |
May-27-10 07:02 AM |
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Pete "Kill Social Security" Peterson? |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 08:01 AM |
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Well the link posted is hardly a sterling source either.Author is a Paul Rand supporter. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-27-10 08:23 AM |
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Is that all you get out of what I wrote? |
karynnj |
May-27-10 08:48 AM |
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Thanks for the information.. |
Cha |
May-27-10 09:27 AM |
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Umm. You DID mention Peterson. |
bvar22 |
May-27-10 05:29 PM |
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It was the study out of his think tank - I needed a way to refer to the study |
karynnj |
May-28-10 12:00 PM |
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And Choco Rations will be increased by 4 grams next week! |
bvar22 |
May-27-10 05:24 PM |
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Next three months are critical |
jeanpalmer |
May-30-10 06:51 AM |
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Simple answer to all of them. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
May-27-10 07:40 AM |
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It's like asking why you're not at the top of the mountain after hiking for 2 hours |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 07:50 AM |
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This author is also a Tea Party activist and a global warming denier |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-27-10 08:29 AM |
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Rising prices do not necessarily indicate inflation |
DemReadingDU |
May-27-10 07:40 AM |
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RIGHT!! Also, there's no mention of CORE prices being steady...gas prices can go up and that's count |
uponit7771 |
May-27-10 07:52 AM |
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Full scale deflation is yet to arrive. |
ozone_man |
May-27-10 08:32 AM |
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Agreed |
DemReadingDU |
May-27-10 09:02 AM |
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By no means would I naively believe that we're in a recovery. But I do believe that the |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
May-27-10 07:46 AM |
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Lost credibility with "And GDP is not a really good measure of the economic health of a nation" |
uponit7771 |
May-27-10 07:51 AM |
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GDP is NOT a good measure of economic health or quality of life. |
mbperrin |
May-27-10 08:07 AM |
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Well, first off, the word is 'drivel'. |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 05:43 PM |
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The FDIC is backing 8,000 banks that have a total of $13 trillion in assets |
DemReadingDU |
May-27-10 07:52 AM |
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Electronically there is, there's only 500 dollars paper cash per person in America |
uponit7771 |
May-27-10 07:53 AM |
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Well, I'm going to bank and getting my $500 today! |
DemReadingDU |
May-27-10 07:57 AM |
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Looking at it from a top perspective halfway up the ladder is stupid. Oh, and CPI data |
HughMoran |
May-27-10 07:54 AM |
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Kick & Rec! |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 08:03 AM |
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Reduced to relying on Rand Paul supporting Tea Partiers? Really? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-27-10 08:26 AM |
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+1 |
tallahasseedem |
May-27-10 08:29 AM |
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Reduced to ad hominem attacks? |
ozone_man |
May-27-10 08:42 AM |
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When people try and refute the "message", all they get are attacks on the messenger |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-27-10 08:47 AM |
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Which of the 25 indicators are you contesting? |
ozone_man |
May-27-10 10:52 AM |
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Reduced? |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 05:45 PM |
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K&R!! This economy (as it stands) is simply not sustainable. |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 09:19 AM |
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Most states see job growth |
ProSense |
May-27-10 09:22 AM |
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Thanks for some reality..I know it's |
Cha |
May-27-10 09:30 AM |
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I have to disagree with you, Cha..... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 10:38 AM |
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I do think it's killing some that anything positive |
Cha |
May-27-10 04:16 PM |
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Agree, I've seen it myself...... |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 05:40 PM |
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Well, then we agree. |
Cha |
May-28-10 12:08 AM |
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These are particularly poor questions |
GOTV |
May-27-10 09:51 AM |
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Feels very real to me; I had so little business last year |
treestar |
May-27-10 09:55 AM |
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We are in a recovery...heading back to where we were before this all started in 2007/2008. |
Jennicut |
May-27-10 09:57 AM |
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Classic tea-bagger innumeracy |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-27-10 10:02 AM |
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this thread is like freeper heaven |
asphalt.jungle |
May-27-10 10:07 AM |
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We get it. You dont want it to appear as if Obama is successful. |
stevenleser |
May-27-10 10:55 AM |
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Absurd. |
girl gone mad |
May-27-10 04:09 PM |
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Then I will respond for the benefit of others. |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 06:11 PM |
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So are you asshole. |
Dr.Phool |
May-27-10 10:39 PM |
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Damn those banksters and corporatists and their fake recovery |
NJmaverick |
May-27-10 11:01 AM |
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We all want Obama to succeed |
florida08 |
May-27-10 11:14 AM |
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"a pump and dump economy"?? Oh thank you for injecting some sense.. |
proudohioan |
May-27-10 11:39 AM |
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thank you for understanding |
florida08 |
May-27-10 12:30 PM |
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This OP starts off with a lie: |
Political Tiger |
May-27-10 11:15 AM |
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Got lots of people to lap |
Cha |
May-27-10 12:33 PM |
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OTR fuel transactions are up. That means more goods are |
johnaries |
May-27-10 03:34 PM |
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A question for the OP... |
hamerfan |
May-27-10 07:18 PM |
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Because it bothers me so. |
ozymandius |
May-27-10 07:28 PM |
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K&R & thanks! nt |
BlueIris |
May-27-10 09:35 PM |
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It IS real |
ibegurpard |
May-27-10 11:14 PM |
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It's really a recovery. The problem is that recoveries just don't mean what they used to mean |
eridani |
May-28-10 04:20 AM |
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The answer to #20 is YES. A vast majority of Americans are ridiculously stupid. |
ncteechur |
May-29-10 10:11 PM |
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people are stupid and thus dont understand that we are in recovery |
mkultra |
May-30-10 09:45 AM |
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what worries me most about this "recovery" |
paulk |
May-30-10 02:56 PM |
#121 |
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