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13. There can not be any recovery until we get our manufacturing jobs back into this country.
What we are seeing as "Recovery" is the money changing pockets in those people controlling the stock market. Think AIG, MIC(2 1/2 wars), etc.

Without those main street jobs there can be no real recovery. Those main street jobs are the fuel fuel for the economic engine. We are just going forward on momentum.
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  - 25 Questions To Ask Anyone Who Is Delusional Enough To Believe That This Economic Recovery Is Real ozymandius  May-27-10 05:33 AM   #0 
  - Do you mean it's all just an illusion?  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 05:53 AM   #1 
  - Talk about measures that are of no use...  ozymandius   May-27-10 06:00 AM   #4 
  - It means that 76 percent have a personal definition of recession  karynnj   May-27-10 07:09 AM   #18 
     - "Recession has a technical economic meaning and that has been met."  Heywood J   May-27-10 08:08 PM   #107 
  - US money supply plunges at 1930s pace as Obama eyes fresh stimulus  ozymandius   May-27-10 05:56 AM   #2 
  - You are absolutely right on...it is all an illusion  golfguru   May-27-10 05:37 PM   #99 
  - One problem with this...  Atman   May-27-10 05:58 AM   #3 
  - I'd Like To Know Where You Are Shopping  Demeter   May-27-10 06:00 AM   #5 
  - "the smallest 12-month increase since January 1966"  HughMoran   May-27-10 07:49 AM   #25 
     - The trouble is wages are deflating. So that has the same affect as inflation.  newthinking   May-27-10 08:42 AM   #44 
     - Exactly! Excellent point...  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:03 AM   #51 
     - Excellent point if we were talking about wages  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:31 AM   #61 
        - And thank you for insinuating yourself into this post ....  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:44 AM   #68 
        - Simply trying to stay on topic  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:48 AM   #70 
        - Food and Energy is EXCLUDED  Hawkowl   May-27-10 03:21 PM   #91 
     - that doesn't counter the "have you gone shopping lately" argument  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:25 AM   #56 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-27-10 09:35 AM   #64 
           - Can't make an argument, attack the poster personally  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:36 AM   #65 
              - And here I thought I was complimenting you on your creativity and honesty  Demeter   May-27-10 09:40 AM   #67 
     - "Less food and energy...."  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:02 AM   #50 
     - Ummm, those numbers aren't bad either  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:24 AM   #55 
        - Yes, I did look...  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:31 AM   #62 
           - Oh, I'll grant you that  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:34 AM   #63 
              - Oh, I hope it gets better, too.....  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:48 AM   #69 
                 - I understand  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:50 AM   #71 
                    - I agree....  proudohioan   May-27-10 10:02 AM   #76 
     - Obviously you have not shopped for...  golfguru   May-27-10 05:43 PM   #102 
     - If we take out two of the three biggest contributors to a family's budget,  Heywood J   May-27-10 08:10 PM   #108 
  - That depends on where you live.  ozymandius   May-27-10 06:09 AM   #6 
  - Nor do I  florida08   May-27-10 06:15 AM   #8 
  - Oil? Progress Energy is already charging us for 2 nukes they "might" build in 20 years.  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 07:52 AM   #28 
     - damn  florida08   May-27-10 09:30 AM   #59 
  - Gaming the markets is a huge problem. What is happening to the "efficiency of the marketplace?"  pundaint   May-27-10 06:27 AM   #10 
  - Oil prices are pushing construction materials up  Loge23   May-27-10 06:54 AM   #15 
  - Have you been in a grocery store lately?  bread_and_roses   May-27-10 06:12 AM   #7 
  - Ever heard of the Consumer Price Index?  HughMoran   May-27-10 07:47 AM   #24 
     - The Consumer Price Index is pure unadulterated, manipulated propaganda.  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 07:57 AM   #34 
        - Thank you Dr. Phool  bread_and_roses   May-27-10 08:47 AM   #45 
        - So you ROFL, then argue using the numbers  HughMoran   May-27-10 09:28 AM   #58 
           - Let's see.....  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 10:29 AM   #79 
        - CPI basket of goods.  hay rick   May-27-10 08:54 PM   #109 
  - Not where I'm buying groceries.....  proudohioan   May-27-10 08:58 AM   #48 
  - Why is so hard to understand that we just beginning the recovery??  DCBob   May-27-10 06:19 AM   #9 
  - but are we coming out of it?  florida08   May-27-10 06:31 AM   #11 
  - What's with the "we" thing?  Po_d Mainiac   May-27-10 06:53 AM   #14 
  - "We" as a nation..  DCBob   May-27-10 07:30 AM   #19 
  - Why Is It So Hard to Grasp That There Is No Recovery?  Demeter   May-27-10 09:39 AM   #66 
     - A recovery does get powered by government investment..  DCBob   May-27-10 10:10 AM   #78 
     - yeah, you are ass backward  mkultra   May-30-10 09:43 AM   #118 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   May-27-10 06:37 AM   #12 
  - There can not be any recovery until we get our manufacturing jobs back into this country.  RC   May-27-10 06:43 AM   #13 
  - Exactly!  DemReadingDU   May-27-10 07:32 AM   #20 
  - +1000  Dappleganger   May-27-10 09:14 AM   #52 
  - We can define any accomplishment so that it means nothing. But it doesnt make your definition right  stevenleser   May-27-10 10:56 AM   #84 
  - Are you sure you are at the right site?  RC   May-27-10 04:07 PM   #94 
  - we are the #1 manufacturer in the world.  mkultra   May-30-10 09:43 AM   #119 
  - I find the last two questions to be the most troubling.  fasttense   May-27-10 07:00 AM   #16 
  - Even the vegetables and fruit in Aldi's are more expensive  BuelahWitch   May-27-10 10:52 AM   #82 
  - 2 reasons for price increase  Hawkowl   May-27-10 03:33 PM   #92 
  - It is not an illusion that we are in the "recovery" portion of this cycle. It is also true that  karynnj   May-27-10 07:02 AM   #17 
  - Pete "Kill Social Security" Peterson?  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 08:01 AM   #35 
  - Well the link posted is hardly a sterling source either.Author is a Paul Rand supporter.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-27-10 08:23 AM   #38 
  - Is that all you get out of what I wrote?  karynnj   May-27-10 08:48 AM   #47 
     - Thanks for the information..  Cha   May-27-10 09:27 AM   #57 
     - Umm. You DID mention Peterson.  bvar22   May-27-10 05:29 PM   #98 
        - It was the study out of his think tank - I needed a way to refer to the study  karynnj   May-28-10 12:00 PM   #115 
  - And Choco Rations will be increased by 4 grams next week!  bvar22   May-27-10 05:24 PM   #97 
  - Next three months are critical  jeanpalmer   May-30-10 06:51 AM   #117 
  - Simple answer to all of them.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   May-27-10 07:40 AM   #21 
  - It's like asking why you're not at the top of the mountain after hiking for 2 hours  HughMoran   May-27-10 07:50 AM   #26 
  - This author is also a Tea Party activist and a global warming denier  SemiCharmedQuark   May-27-10 08:29 AM   #41 
  - Rising prices do not necessarily indicate inflation  DemReadingDU   May-27-10 07:40 AM   #22 
  - RIGHT!! Also, there's no mention of CORE prices being steady...gas prices can go up and that's count  uponit7771   May-27-10 07:52 AM   #30 
  - Full scale deflation is yet to arrive.  ozone_man   May-27-10 08:32 AM   #42 
     - Agreed  DemReadingDU   May-27-10 09:02 AM   #49 
  - By no means would I naively believe that we're in a recovery. But I do believe that the  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-27-10 07:46 AM   #23 
  - Lost credibility with "And GDP is not a really good measure of the economic health of a nation"  uponit7771   May-27-10 07:51 AM   #27 
  - GDP is NOT a good measure of economic health or quality of life.  mbperrin   May-27-10 08:07 AM   #37 
  - Well, first off, the word is 'drivel'.  ozymandius   May-27-10 05:43 PM   #101 
  - The FDIC is backing 8,000 banks that have a total of $13 trillion in assets  DemReadingDU   May-27-10 07:52 AM   #29 
  - Electronically there is, there's only 500 dollars paper cash per person in America  uponit7771   May-27-10 07:53 AM   #31 
     - Well, I'm going to bank and getting my $500 today!  DemReadingDU   May-27-10 07:57 AM   #33 
  - Looking at it from a top perspective halfway up the ladder is stupid. Oh, and CPI data  HughMoran   May-27-10 07:54 AM   #32 
  - Kick & Rec!  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 08:03 AM   #36 
  - Reduced to relying on Rand Paul supporting Tea Partiers? Really?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-27-10 08:26 AM   #39 
  - +1  tallahasseedem   May-27-10 08:29 AM   #40 
  - Reduced to ad hominem attacks?  ozone_man   May-27-10 08:42 AM   #43 
  - When people try and refute the "message", all they get are attacks on the messenger  SemiCharmedQuark   May-27-10 08:47 AM   #46 
     - Which of the 25 indicators are you contesting?  ozone_man   May-27-10 10:52 AM   #81 
  - Reduced?  ozymandius   May-27-10 05:45 PM   #103 
  - K&R!! This economy (as it stands) is simply not sustainable.  proudohioan   May-27-10 09:19 AM   #53 
  - Most states see job growth  ProSense   May-27-10 09:22 AM   #54 
  - Thanks for some reality..I know it's  Cha   May-27-10 09:30 AM   #60 
     - I have to disagree with you, Cha.....  proudohioan   May-27-10 10:38 AM   #80 
        - I do think it's killing some that anything positive  Cha   May-27-10 04:16 PM   #96 
           - Agree, I've seen it myself......  proudohioan   May-27-10 05:40 PM   #100 
              - Well, then we agree.  Cha   May-28-10 12:08 AM   #113 
  - These are particularly poor questions  GOTV   May-27-10 09:51 AM   #72 
  - Feels very real to me; I had so little business last year  treestar   May-27-10 09:55 AM   #73 
  - We are in a recovery...heading back to where we were before this all started in 2007/2008.  Jennicut   May-27-10 09:57 AM   #74 
  - Classic tea-bagger innumeracy  muriel_volestrangler   May-27-10 10:02 AM   #75 
  - this thread is like freeper heaven  asphalt.jungle   May-27-10 10:07 AM   #77 
  - We get it. You dont want it to appear as if Obama is successful.  stevenleser   May-27-10 10:55 AM   #83 
  - Absurd.  girl gone mad   May-27-10 04:09 PM   #95 
  - Then I will respond for the benefit of others.  ozymandius   May-27-10 06:11 PM   #104 
  - So are you asshole.  Dr.Phool   May-27-10 10:39 PM   #111 
  - Damn those banksters and corporatists and their fake recovery  NJmaverick   May-27-10 11:01 AM   #85 
  - We all want Obama to succeed  florida08   May-27-10 11:14 AM   #86 
  - "a pump and dump economy"?? Oh thank you for injecting some sense..  proudohioan   May-27-10 11:39 AM   #88 
     - thank you for understanding  florida08   May-27-10 12:30 PM   #89 
  - This OP starts off with a lie:  Political Tiger   May-27-10 11:15 AM   #87 
  - Got lots of people to lap  Cha   May-27-10 12:33 PM   #90 
  - OTR fuel transactions are up. That means more goods are  johnaries   May-27-10 03:34 PM   #93 
  - A question for the OP...  hamerfan   May-27-10 07:18 PM   #105 
  - Because it bothers me so.  ozymandius   May-27-10 07:28 PM   #106 
  - K&R & thanks! nt  BlueIris   May-27-10 09:35 PM   #110 
  - It IS real  ibegurpard   May-27-10 11:14 PM   #112 
  - It's really a recovery. The problem is that recoveries just don't mean what they used to mean  eridani   May-28-10 04:20 AM   #114 
  - The answer to #20 is YES. A vast majority of Americans are ridiculously stupid.  ncteechur   May-29-10 10:11 PM   #116 
  - people are stupid and thus dont understand that we are in recovery  mkultra   May-30-10 09:45 AM   #120 
  - what worries me most about this "recovery"  paulk   May-30-10 02:56 PM   #121 
 

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