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Tue May-18-10 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #113 |
| 140. Sestak has done a good job turning around the polls. |
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From what I can tell, it is Sestak who is the strongest candidate against Toomey. It was a good political move to get the 60th vote from Specter to pass HCR, and this primary has invigorated Dems in Penn. That may be just what is needed in the GE to beat Toomey's sorry ass. All's well that end's well.
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| -White House bracing for Arlen Specter loss? |
babylonsister |
May-17-10 11:58 AM |
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Suppose they'll notice |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:00 PM |
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Huh? Last I looked, Specter is a Dem. And seeing as neither the |
babylonsister |
May-17-10 12:04 PM |
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They did |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:13 PM |
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Stop picking nits; they have now, per the OP, stopped |
babylonsister |
May-17-10 12:16 PM |
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Primary support is no "nit" |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:24 PM |
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Supporting Specter was in exchange for his 60th vote on the HCR bill and the stimulus. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 02:14 PM |
#43 |
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He needed the dems more than we needed him |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 02:41 PM |
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Again WH support for Specter was in exchange for the 60th vote, support well spent IMO. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 03:38 PM |
#83 |
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Again, no it was not |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:45 PM |
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It absolutely was in exchange for his 60th vote for HCR and the stimulus. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 03:46 PM |
#86 |
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How could he have voted against it |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:48 PM |
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It makes no sense to you because it has nothing to do with ideology. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 03:56 PM |
#89 |
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And a broken clock s correct twice a day |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 04:01 PM |
#90 |
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Your reworking a deal already struck and executed seems a bit absurd after the fact. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 04:16 PM |
#94 |
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Which is why they are running away from it |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 06:42 PM |
#102 |
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Oh good grief. They fulfilled their commitment to him. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 08:18 PM |
#107 |
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You're right |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 08:25 PM |
#110 |
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Didn't read it, did you? |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 08:35 PM |
#116 |
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I'm familiar with the analysis |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 08:40 PM |
#117 |
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What occurs to me is this. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 09:23 PM |
#119 |
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So it's all based upon belief |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 06:59 AM |
#126 |
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I'm sorry you don't understand political strategy. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 10:32 AM |
#131 |
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Opinion |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 11:57 AM |
#132 |
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Correction: Obama and Biden are not campaigning in the end-run. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:21 PM |
#133 |
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Where do you get this "inside" information? |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 01:03 PM |
#141 |
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This primary has provided an opportunity for you to oppose this president vicariously. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 01:23 PM |
#144 |
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Your love is blinding you |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 01:37 PM |
#145 |
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LOL!!! !!!ELEVENS!!!! Repeat after me: Quid Pro Quo. nt |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 01:41 PM |
#146 |
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Repeat after me |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 01:44 PM |
#147 |
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Opposing their own party? Specter's a Dem, and the polls are evenly split . |
Phx_Dem |
May-17-10 01:36 PM |
#35 |
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Actually no |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:17 PM |
#78 |
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Party kicks in more in some elections than in others. In this one IMO, |
saltpoint |
May-18-10 07:26 AM |
#129 |
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I just hope that the candidate who can best defeat Toomey wins today. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:36 PM |
#137 |
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Hi, AtomicKitten. Calling Toomey batshit crazy is certainly a |
saltpoint |
May-18-10 07:39 PM |
#168 |
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No they won't consider it a mistake |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 02:21 PM |
#47 |
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I'm guessing they also promised Specter to support his campaign when he jumped the shark... |
ClassWarrior |
May-17-10 03:06 PM |
#67 |
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He was promised support from the nationa and PA state Democratic parties |
old mark |
May-17-10 04:42 PM |
#98 |
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This is why I don't think its smart to emphasize Obama's support for Lincoln and Spector. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 12:03 PM |
#2 |
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Agree to some extent |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:18 PM |
#9 |
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It would be much easier |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 12:50 PM |
#17 |
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Wow nice strawman |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:53 PM |
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You brought up a topic |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 12:55 PM |
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Um, I was addressing the history of their support for Specter |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:57 PM |
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I'll remind you of what you wrote. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 01:07 PM |
#24 |
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you didn't recognize that at all did you? |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 01:11 PM |
#28 |
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It was a pretty obvious and boring point. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 01:18 PM |
#30 |
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Then your missing some |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 01:29 PM |
#33 |
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Indeed. He constantly contrasts his own positions with what the "left" wants. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:15 PM |
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You nailed it. |
guruoo |
May-17-10 01:10 PM |
#27 |
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I just post that he's woefully wrong on an issue |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 04:04 PM |
#91 |
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Nicely done. When are we going to learn to stop doing the wingnuts' |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
May-17-10 07:15 PM |
#106 |
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Such as? |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 08:27 PM |
#112 |
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I don't have time to go down the list, for it's too long. Do a search. n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
May-17-10 08:33 PM |
#115 |
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Pick 3 |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 08:41 PM |
#118 |
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O.K., I'll bite... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
May-18-10 04:07 PM |
#165 |
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Keep that list handy. You'll be posting it again and again and again... |
Number23 |
May-17-10 08:28 PM |
#114 |
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That's why I made it a journal entry. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 09:27 PM |
#120 |
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K&R this response. You nailed it. nt |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:31 PM |
#135 |
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Nah I want the President to eat the dinner he cooked within the party nt. |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 01:19 PM |
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So the next time Obama calls for something progressive, |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 01:37 PM |
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Yes, we really want a crusading progressive like we saw with the public option! |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:10 PM |
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He introduced it and got it passed through the House. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 02:15 PM |
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He spoke about it, then undermined, then denied it. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:17 PM |
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Yes, he undermined it in your mind |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 02:24 PM |
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He undermined with the "sliver" speech. in public. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:26 PM |
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I wonder if he knew something that you didn't |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 02:29 PM |
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Whatever. Maybe you should just find a better example of presidential "support"... |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:32 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-17-10 02:38 PM |
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WTF kind of thing is that to say? |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:46 PM |
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Nice avatar. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 02:55 PM |
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because they have generally been right nt. |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 03:07 PM |
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Public Option crusade |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 03:05 PM |
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Obviously. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 03:10 PM |
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I don't want the next George W. Bush to be in charge of my health care. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 03:15 PM |
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I'm fine with PA declaring itself a soverign nation |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 03:24 PM |
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Single payer is cheaper |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:26 PM |
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Long time? |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:21 PM |
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hahahahaha |
rapturedbyrobots |
May-17-10 04:15 PM |
#93 |
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Obama is not totally stupid |
AllentownJake |
May-17-10 04:46 PM |
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Since when is it up to US HERE to "emphasize" his support or not? |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:13 PM |
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Pres. Obama did what he had to do in order to get his legislations passed..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-17-10 12:08 PM |
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So in essence, he is supporting a Republican |
Bluenorthwest |
May-17-10 12:16 PM |
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As well they should |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:24 PM |
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He supported a Republican willing to become a Democrat and vote that way for |
FrenchieCat |
May-17-10 12:26 PM |
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He changed more than shirts, he became a reliable Dem vote |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 02:23 PM |
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I think you're right. Funny how things work out that way. nt |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:42 PM |
#139 |
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I don't begrudge DSCC supporting incumbent candidates... |
brooklynite |
May-17-10 12:14 PM |
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Yup |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:19 PM |
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No problem as far as I'm concerned |
fugop |
May-17-10 12:47 PM |
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Nice false dichotomy |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:55 PM |
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I'd be shocked if he backs Toomey |
fugop |
May-17-10 01:07 PM |
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They are related |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 01:09 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 03:08 PM |
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If he loses the primary, he will switch back; they would be glad to have that extra filibuster vote. |
AlinPA |
May-17-10 04:52 PM |
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+1 |
tsuki |
May-17-10 11:49 PM |
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U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak 2010..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
May-17-10 12:38 PM |
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Spector has been one of the top two supporters of medical research |
stray cat |
May-17-10 12:47 PM |
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According to some polls, Specter supposedly does better... |
kjackson227 |
May-17-10 01:00 PM |
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That should be expected. |
Radical Activist |
May-17-10 01:09 PM |
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I havent seen any like that of late. |
MadBadger |
May-17-10 04:25 PM |
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It seems this primary has motivated Democrats in Penn. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:40 PM |
#138 |
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It's all good. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 01:13 PM |
#29 |
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The Specter ads here feature Obama at a rally declaring "I love Arlen Specter!" |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 01:21 PM |
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OFA was really over the top |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 01:31 PM |
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Yeah, I was in PA a couple of weeks ago and saw that commercial. |
Beacool |
May-17-10 01:41 PM |
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If it is any consolation, the president does not look comfortable... |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:05 PM |
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It's the price he paid for Specter's vote on health care reform |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 02:30 PM |
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It's an embarrassing clip. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:56 PM |
#63 |
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Exactly. Obama said he promised Teddy and he delivered. nt |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:32 PM |
#136 |
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A lot of us (seniors) just can't see voting for Specter after 25 years of voting against him. nt |
AlinPA |
May-17-10 01:48 PM |
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Yeah, there is that, too.....nt. |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 02:11 PM |
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I bet the White House is actually very thankful for Joe Sestak |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 02:29 PM |
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Wishful thinking |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 02:38 PM |
#56 |
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It's the price they paid to get Specter's votes (partcularly on health care) |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 02:49 PM |
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Specter need them |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 02:54 PM |
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Specter could've easily run as an independent and opposed health care reform |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 03:06 PM |
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Easily run, and lost |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:09 PM |
#70 |
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Tell that to Joe Lieberman and Charlie Crist |
Hippo_Tron |
May-17-10 03:14 PM |
#75 |
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Lieberman was different |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:19 PM |
#79 |
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Crist is leading in the polls |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 12:26 AM |
#124 |
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No, he's not |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 07:15 AM |
#127 |
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We will have to agree to disagree on that one |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 01:51 PM |
#148 |
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It's a matter of history |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 02:09 PM |
#149 |
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Again, I don't see why you think Specter would've agreed to those terms |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 02:21 PM |
#150 |
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No other choice |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 02:35 PM |
#154 |
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Again I think his best chance to win on "name recognition" was in a three way as an independent |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 02:55 PM |
#155 |
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He had no chance |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 03:01 PM |
#156 |
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Running as a Dem was NOT a choice unless the White House backed him in the primary |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 03:33 PM |
#157 |
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Tell that to Sestak |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 03:44 PM |
#159 |
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The national party did everything in their power to win the Dem primary for him |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 03:47 PM |
#161 |
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He didn't think so |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 03:51 PM |
#162 |
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How do you know what he thought? |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 03:58 PM |
#163 |
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He said as much |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 04:05 PM |
#164 |
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Which he said after the party had already backed him 100% |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 04:13 PM |
#166 |
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Not that I'm aware of |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 06:32 PM |
#167 |
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He didn't think so |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:51 PM |
#88 |
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He wouldn't have stood a chance in the Dem primary without the machine backing |
Hippo_Tron |
May-18-10 12:22 AM |
#123 |
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What he really needed, he didn't get |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 07:21 AM |
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Actually, they needed his votes. We needed as many as we could get. |
Jennicut |
May-17-10 03:10 PM |
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False dichotomy |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 03:15 PM |
#77 |
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Biden and Specter are friends, they commuted together on Amtrak. |
Jennicut |
May-17-10 04:29 PM |
#97 |
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Well, he didn't run as a centrist |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 06:46 PM |
#103 |
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The left of the DLC? He ran to the slight left of the DLC. He was never a raging |
Jennicut |
May-18-10 06:58 AM |
#125 |
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Obama ran as the anti-dumb-war candidate. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:26 PM |
#134 |
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Gibbs tomorrow: Arlen who? |
Enrique |
May-17-10 02:29 PM |
#53 |
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Kinda like the public option.... |
freddie mertz |
May-17-10 03:00 PM |
#64 |
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Will be hard for the WH to spin a Specter & Lincoln loss or near miss... |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 03:11 PM |
#73 |
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The WH support has nothing to do with ideology. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 03:43 PM |
#84 |
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Perhaps. But I think a lot of the WH policy is right in sync with the Blue Dogs. |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 04:48 PM |
#100 |
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Unsupportable assertion |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 06:48 PM |
#104 |
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Wrong again. |
AtomicKitten |
May-17-10 08:21 PM |
#108 |
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If Sestak wins the GE, only the bitter will remember this |
Uzybone |
May-17-10 03:13 PM |
#74 |
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another Senate seat down the drain... |
Aramchek |
May-17-10 04:13 PM |
#92 |
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Current polling suggests that Sestak is within the margin of error with |
saltpoint |
May-17-10 08:28 PM |
#113 |
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Sestak has done a good job turning around the polls. |
AtomicKitten |
May-18-10 12:53 PM |
#140 |
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God i hope they're bracing for a Specter Loss |
MadBadger |
May-17-10 04:24 PM |
#95 |
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Once again the administration stands with the least progressive choice. |
NorthCarolina |
May-17-10 06:52 PM |
#105 |
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This is kind of tantalizing. |
saltpoint |
May-17-10 08:22 PM |
#109 |
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Intrade is not scientific, but actual folks are betting real money on |
saltpoint |
May-17-10 08:27 PM |
#111 |
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It's after midnight in Philadelphia and by god now that the younguns are |
saltpoint |
May-17-10 11:54 PM |
#122 |
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Aren't there some people in Pennsylvania who simply think it's beyond time for Specter to retire? |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
May-18-10 07:38 AM |
#130 |
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Yes |
zipplewrath |
May-18-10 01:04 PM |
#142 |
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They're backing away fast |
spinbaby |
May-18-10 01:11 PM |
#143 |
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I just voted for Sestak |
mvd |
May-18-10 02:22 PM |
#151 |
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I voted for Sestak today. |
joanski0 |
May-18-10 02:24 PM |
#152 |
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I voted for Sestak today,too! |
Bravo Zulu |
May-18-10 03:44 PM |
#160 |
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As did I. |
MrSlayer |
May-18-10 07:42 PM |
#169 |
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Arlen Specter helped cover up the murder of the President of the United States |
Sebastian Doyle |
May-18-10 02:27 PM |
#153 |
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Specter is 80. If he is elected and dies in office, Corbett would appoint a Republican. Vote Sestak |
EndElectoral |
May-18-10 03:36 PM |
#158 |
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