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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #68
72. As I said upthread
Edited on Fri May-14-10 09:12 PM by Jeff In Milwaukee
A news search of "Ken Salazar" and "Criticsm" turns up only press releases from the Center for Biological Diversity. And every news story that references the bogus "27 drilling permits" is tied back to a press release from the Center.

So they are, in fact, pretty much all alone on this one.

It's not spin when it's the facts.

Facts. Try 'em sometime.
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  -Obama defends Ken Salazar Enrique  May-14-10 02:28 PM   #0 
  - they're all in bed with big oil....nt  Oceansaway   May-14-10 02:36 PM   #1 
  - I don't think Obama is  Rosa Luxemburg   May-14-10 11:20 PM   #79 
  - Pathetic. :( eom  ShortnFiery   May-14-10 02:37 PM   #2 
  - Do you really have no interest in even knowing whether Salazar has been  suzie   May-14-10 02:38 PM   #3 
     - No. I have an interest in knowing why he has been granting "exemptions".  saracat   May-14-10 02:53 PM   #10 
        - +1  havocmom   May-14-10 03:02 PM   #17 
        - In other words, "No".  suzie   May-14-10 03:47 PM   #47 
  - I dunno about the industry, but he did get slammed over supporting the offshore wind project.  phleshdef   May-14-10 02:40 PM   #4 
  - dupe  phleshdef   May-14-10 02:44 PM   #5 
     - yes, that is exactly what I was asking  Enrique   May-14-10 02:52 PM   #9 
        - ProSense posted a pretty good one down in post #11 as well. Salazar has done a lot more than he is..  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:00 PM   #15 
  - President of the American Petroleum Institute and other energy groups slamming Salazar on oil.  phleshdef   May-14-10 02:49 PM   #6 
  - Another reason why "Change we can believe in" was complete bullshit...  truebrit71   May-14-10 02:51 PM   #7 
  - He was slammed by the industry. I posted an article with the quotes above.  phleshdef   May-14-10 02:55 PM   #12 
     - Yes  Rosa Luxemburg   May-14-10 11:22 PM   #80 
  - Seriously ? He is "defending " Salazar? Wow. Whateevr happened to accountability?  saracat   May-14-10 02:52 PM   #8 
  - Evidently, it's  ProSense   May-14-10 02:54 PM   #11 
     - Salazar is bad news period and everyone know it now. Gotta love those exemptions.  saracat   May-14-10 02:55 PM   #13 
     - You mean those 27 exemptions that of which 23 didn't actually exist?  phleshdef   May-14-10 02:59 PM   #14 
     - All the exemptions exist. But even if there were just 4, why is that acceptable to anyone?  saracat   May-14-10 03:01 PM   #16 
        - I guess they got filed away with Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:04 PM   #18 
        - Boy gott nothing but illogical snark? Apple Pie to you! Makes as much sense  saracat   May-14-10 03:09 PM   #20 
           - Why not snark?  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 07:14 PM   #58 
              - Nothing has been proved in the least. The Center For Biological Diversity has  saracat   May-14-10 07:51 PM   #61 
                 - Yes they have...  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 08:30 PM   #63 
                    - Just want you to know only because of the request that Skinner made for civility, am I biting  saracat   May-14-10 09:02 PM   #67 
                    - Just want you to know I couldn't possibly care less (nt)  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 09:04 PM   #69 
                       - Good.  saracat   May-14-10 09:05 PM   #70 
                    - Likely discredited by the same bunch who have 'discredited' climate change.nt  laughingliberal   May-14-10 09:41 PM   #75 
        - The other problem is, I don't think you even know what the exemptions really mean.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:12 PM   #23 
           - Gee, then why all the lawsuits from enviornmental groups?  saracat   May-14-10 03:21 PM   #30 
              - I'm not sure what you are getting at.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:25 PM   #34 
              - You got crickets in common. Thanks for your posts.  vaberella   May-14-10 03:46 PM   #45 
                 - I answered other threads.I certainly DO understand exemptions and likely better than many.  saracat   May-14-10 03:55 PM   #49 
              - BTW, here is just one of the suits  saracat   May-14-10 04:04 PM   #50 
                 - This isn't about Salazar, the MMS has been a problem for years.  ProSense   May-14-10 04:38 PM   #52 
                    - Wow. Thats literally a 95% reduction in the growth of domestic drilling operations.  phleshdef   May-14-10 04:43 PM   #53 
                    - Center For Biological Diversity  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 08:53 PM   #66 
                       - "On of their "researchers" has a bachelor's degree in English. "  laughingliberal   May-14-10 09:53 PM   #77 
                       - Good catch. Along with the Masters in "Biology" LOL!  saracat   May-14-10 10:29 PM   #78 
                       - Damn, you're good. Excellent work.  Number23   May-15-10 12:58 AM   #84 
     - "everyone know it now" Yeah, those who are clinging to straws.  ProSense   May-14-10 03:06 PM   #19 
     - Like these straws?  saracat   May-14-10 03:10 PM   #21 
        - Stop confusing us with facts, saracat.  freddie mertz   May-14-10 03:12 PM   #24 
        - Really, there was ever a single instance when Saracat said, "Obama good"?  suzie   May-14-10 03:44 PM   #42 
           - Yes. There are several. Too bad you guys never notice. This thread isn't  saracat   May-14-10 03:47 PM   #48 
           - BP and the other companies are looking for every opportunity to blame someone else.  suzie   May-14-10 05:01 PM   #54 
              - Gee the President himself states that there is federal responsibility and you think this is about  saracat   May-14-10 05:42 PM   #55 
           - More importantly..  Cha   May-14-10 07:10 PM   #56 
              - True dat.  suzie   May-14-10 11:34 PM   #82 
        - What does that have to do with Salazar?  ProSense   May-14-10 03:15 PM   #25 
        - My mistake. I thought he was Sec. of the Interior and ultimately responsible.  saracat   May-14-10 03:18 PM   #27 
           - In theory he is. But in reality, he doesn't sit and analyze the thousands of requests that come...  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:23 PM   #33 
              - But he has a responsibility to ensure that those who are appointed do their jobs. Buck stops at his  saracat   May-14-10 03:31 PM   #37 
                 - They DID their job based on the current rules, which obviously need changed.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:35 PM   #39 
                    - You make a fair point here but if nothing else, at the very least, Salazar did very little to  saracat   May-14-10 03:42 PM   #41 
                       - I'm holding Salazar responsible for making sure the holes get closed...  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:46 PM   #44 
                          - Thank you . I am quite aware of the chain of command. But the Buck still stops with Salazar.  saracat   May-14-10 04:22 PM   #51 
                             - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-14-10 07:37 PM   #60 
        - And this is EXACTLY the reason Salazar wanted the MMS split up into 2 different bodies.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:15 PM   #26 
           - Ah yes, another who is in the "I actually BELIEVE Salazar " camp  saracat   May-14-10 03:19 PM   #28 
              - Yea, just sounds like another unsound opinion based on emotions.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:20 PM   #29 
                 - Perhaps I should just proffer sternly worded letter and just move on? Obama himself  saracat   May-14-10 03:26 PM   #35 
                    - There are no "incidents", there is 1 really bad incident. And it has nothing to do with Salazar.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:28 PM   #36 
                       - Wow. Just Wow. Even the President acknowledges the blame of the Dept of Interior.  saracat   May-14-10 03:33 PM   #38 
                          - A section of the deparment. Department of Interior is a whole lot bigger than just MMS.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:36 PM   #40 
                             - Ultimately it would be his fault. Yes. I think it is a bit more specific in the case of Salazar  saracat   May-14-10 03:45 PM   #43 
                                - My response, post #44.  phleshdef   May-14-10 03:46 PM   #46 
     - Give it a rest....  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 07:13 PM   #57 
        - Only to some who don't like facts. I suppose the WAPO and NYTimes stories are also  saracat   May-14-10 07:53 PM   #62 
           - To the extent that they're repeating the nonsense...  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 08:31 PM   #64 
              - If you even bother to read the GP here on DU you know that isn't the extent of it.  saracat   May-14-10 09:04 PM   #68 
                 - As I said upthread  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 09:09 PM   #72 
                    - Yeah, right. Like that is how to do a search. Whatever.  saracat   May-14-10 09:18 PM   #73 
                       - Sucks, doesn't it....  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-14-10 09:33 PM   #74 
                          - Nope, try this .Whole lot there you won't like  saracat   May-14-10 09:46 PM   #76 
     - thanks, that looks like significant stuff  Enrique   May-14-10 03:21 PM   #31 
  - One in the endless parade of DINO shills for polluters and crooks.  freddie mertz   May-14-10 03:10 PM   #22 
  - You're doin' a heckuva job, Sally. n/t  QC   May-14-10 03:23 PM   #32 
  - Despite this posturing, Salazar's may be the first major cabinet head to roll  depakid   May-14-10 07:20 PM   #59 
  - "With anyone it would seem" except Van Jones, who did nothing wrong...  polichick   May-14-10 09:09 PM   #71 
  - I hate the prick.  joe black   May-14-10 08:41 PM   #65 
  - You must like cheney better thought?  Rosa Luxemburg   May-14-10 11:25 PM   #81 
  - Get rid of the industry shill  jeanpalmer   May-15-10 12:39 AM   #83 
  - Locking  dmr   May-15-10 01:01 AM   #85 

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