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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:49 PM
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53. With all due respect, you and a whole lot of others, need to read these things called history books
Clinton couldn't end the prohibition on gays any more than Obama could by executive order. Sodomy was then, and may still be now (depending on Lawerence v Texas) against the UCMJ. Clinton tried to do so, and the Congress made it crystal clear that there was no way that law would be changed and that instead they would outright ban gays. Much of his opposition came from Democrats as well as Republicans. DADT was added to the budget that year and passed by Congress to be signed by the President. Had that not happened the default would have been back to the witch hunts (to understand what those were like read Conduct Unbecoming). Since we weren't at war we couldn't use stop loss.

To compare the pardon power of the President, which is absolute and utterly unfettered by any control at all, to the power of executive orders shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the limits of the power of a President. Something I doubt Carter really did.
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