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Sun May-09-10 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 72. President Obama criticized quite vehemently Citizens United |
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as opposed to Greenwald who supported it
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| -What Glenn Greenwald Got Wrong about the Constitution |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:16 AM |
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This is an old article. Is this the only piece you could find to |
tekisui |
May-09-10 09:19 AM |
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So you support the Supreme Court ruling that companies are people, just like Greenwald |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:20 AM |
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I didn't defend a word. I questioned your point in posting an |
tekisui |
May-09-10 09:22 AM |
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His dishonest and hate filled article has been posted Ad nauseam here on DU |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:24 AM |
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Like I said, the best you can do is a 4 month old article? |
tekisui |
May-09-10 09:28 AM |
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Wrong as usual, here is some seriously damning dirt on this creep |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:30 AM |
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Huh? Greenwald has slammed Goldman Sachs in the past |
fortune |
May-09-10 09:50 AM |
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He wasn't slamming them when he worked for them |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:52 AM |
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Elena Kagan also worked for Goldman Sachs. |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:04 AM |
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link????? |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:06 AM |
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Possible Supreme Court pick had ties with Goldman Sachs |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:09 AM |
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So she didn't work for Goldman Sachs but was on an advisory panel |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:11 AM |
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She took money directly from Goldman Sachs. |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:13 AM |
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But, not as much as Greenwald!11!!1 |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:14 AM |
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Greenwald supports Goldman Sach's personhood, that says it all about him |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:16 AM |
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He supports absolute freedom of speech. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:18 AM |
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no he doesn't as the average citizen's voice will be drowned out by corporate millions |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:18 AM |
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You want to limit unions and progressive activist organization's |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:20 AM |
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LOL. "Absolute freedom of speech" is probably the best Murdoch style spin I've seen on the CU case. |
phleshdef |
May-09-10 10:19 AM |
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You falsely state that Greenwald assigns "personhood" to corporations |
fortune |
May-09-10 11:59 AM |
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This is true, Greenwald obviously took so much money from Goldman that he has time to do nothing but |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:18 AM |
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When, and in what capacity, did Greenwald work for Goldman Sachs? n/t |
fortune |
May-09-10 12:07 PM |
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Kagan doesn't want to make Goldman Sachs a citizen like Greenwald does |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:16 AM |
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Actually you don't know that she doesn't. She has no judicial record. |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:19 AM |
#41 |
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She argued against Citizens United in the Supreme Court |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:24 AM |
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SHE HAS NO JUDICIAL RECORD |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 03:20 PM |
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Now you are just not making sense. She argued against Citizen United |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 06:55 PM |
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She didn't take money from anyone. She EARNED money while LEGALLY employed as an advisor. |
phleshdef |
May-09-10 10:17 AM |
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Including Greenwald. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:19 AM |
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The OP is just playing the same game you and others play here all the time. |
phleshdef |
May-09-10 10:20 AM |
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. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:21 AM |
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but President Obama may pick her for the Supreme Court so she must be bad |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:19 AM |
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but President Obama may pick her for the Supreme Court so she must be good |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:23 AM |
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Logic escapes that one. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:25 AM |
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If only you understood the concept of logic |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 11:39 AM |
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Look at your screen name. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 12:03 PM |
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Sorry but I don't buy into your concept that there must be knee jerk opposition to President Obama |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:25 AM |
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Sorry but I don't buy into your concept that there must be knee jerk suport to President Obama |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:29 AM |
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One doesn't need to have "knee jerk support" for the Presidennt |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:30 AM |
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lol. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:34 AM |
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Sadly I could see thinking being open minded as funny |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:35 AM |
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Keep it coming! |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:36 AM |
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well if a poster who think laughing icons are the height of intellect |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 05:24 PM |
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Didn't Greenwald support Sotomayor before and after Obama picked her? |
fortune |
May-09-10 12:09 PM |
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nope |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 05:23 PM |
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link? |
tekisui |
May-10-10 04:23 PM |
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Greenwald's connections? Did you read the wiki link that |
Jefferson23 |
May-10-10 07:44 PM |
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So when will your acknowledgment |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 04:01 PM |
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How don't care how old the article is.. |
Cha |
May-09-10 11:48 AM |
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he's a hero because he hates obama. meanwhile in the real word, he's some dipshit blogger no one has |
dionysus |
May-10-10 10:43 AM |
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Why do people like you |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 09:36 AM |
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because "people like me" care about Americans and want to protect them |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:53 AM |
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LOL. Spare me your neo lib version of "care". nt |
ipaint |
May-09-10 10:18 AM |
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"caring" is what drives me to hold mostly liberal views |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:38 AM |
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neo-liberal. There is a differnce. |
ipaint |
May-09-10 12:00 PM |
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"neo liberal"? Stupid labels don't make your case. |
Cha |
May-09-10 05:06 PM |
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Care all you want |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 10:30 AM |
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I suggest you look at the link I provided that clearly shows the flaws in the |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:39 AM |
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I've read it, thanks |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 11:03 AM |
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You seemed to have skipped all the main points and heard only what you wanted to hear |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 04:48 PM |
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Answer my question first |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 05:28 PM |
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No, you were given a solid and compelling argument against yours and Greenwald's position and you |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 05:30 PM |
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Gee, what a shock |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 05:37 PM |
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No I wasn't shocked by your out of hand dismissal |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 05:40 PM |
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Duck, dodge, weave |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 07:07 PM |
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Your self declarations of victory are laughable at best |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 07:11 PM |
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Man |
CTLawGuy |
May-09-10 09:26 AM |
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Perhaps that's why he opposes Kagan, she might want to over turn People United |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:31 AM |
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he just dislikes anything Obama does |
CTLawGuy |
May-09-10 05:48 PM |
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Now that greenwald defends them. |
Cha |
May-09-10 05:07 PM |
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One important note, Greenwald has never gotten anything right. n/t |
WeDidIt |
May-09-10 09:32 AM |
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So you disagree with all his many scathing criticisms of BushCo and its MSM enablers? |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:07 AM |
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Anyone with half a brain was critical of George Bush, that doesn't buy him any credibility |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:42 AM |
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I agree. He's been way off way often. |
saltpoint |
May-09-10 10:39 AM |
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I came to that conclusion a while back |
HughMoran |
May-09-10 11:36 AM |
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The article is dated January, 2010 |
fortune |
May-09-10 09:45 AM |
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This hate monger's latest venom filled attack article has been posted repeatedly |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:51 AM |
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its not the age of the article that is relevent its the degree that it shows Greenwald |
grantcart |
May-09-10 01:44 PM |
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Greenwald shouldn't pick a battle with Stevens |
BootinUp |
May-09-10 09:48 AM |
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Greenwald agrees with Stevens almost always |
fortune |
May-09-10 12:13 PM |
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That was not my meaning nt |
BootinUp |
May-09-10 12:48 PM |
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It's obvious that Glenn Greenwald is an intellectually shallow professional shit-stirrer... |
ClarkUSA |
May-09-10 09:58 AM |
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Funny that someone so clueless about the Constitution has the arrogance to comment on the Supreme |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 09:59 AM |
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What's even funnier: his loyal followers don't care how clueless he is re: the Constitution... |
ClarkUSA |
May-09-10 10:13 AM |
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Greenwald is critical of Obama for the same thiings he was critical of Bush for |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:17 AM |
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Um, no. He is siding w/BushCo forces on the Citizens-United decision, as detailed in the OP. |
ClarkUSA |
May-09-10 10:31 AM |
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greenwald the human pretzel who used to work for goldman-sachs. |
Cha |
May-09-10 11:57 AM |
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If GS is so horrible then why did Obama accept GS campaign contributions? |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 03:26 PM |
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Can you cite when he was an employee of Goldman Sachs, |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 04:11 PM |
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greenwald is the head baaaa baaaaa |
Cha |
May-09-10 05:03 PM |
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Nice job of tearing down the goalposts |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 05:18 PM |
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Why? They have been proven RIGHT |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 05:25 PM |
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Proven right? Where and how? |
skepticscott |
May-09-10 05:33 PM |
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And of course, crickets |
skepticscott |
May-10-10 07:22 PM |
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greenwald doesn't give a shit when he spreads lies. |
Cha |
May-09-10 06:12 PM |
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May-09-10 07:05 PM |
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Desperation in motion. |
cornermouse |
May-09-10 10:07 AM |
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Yes, greenwald is a fucking desperate |
Cha |
May-09-10 05:08 PM |
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Greenwald strikes me as a very bright mind who is crippled by his bias |
saltpoint |
May-09-10 10:08 AM |
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That's a pretty good take on things |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:09 AM |
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He's as "biased" against Obama as he was againt Bush, for the EXACT SAME THINGS |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:15 AM |
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Nope your assessment is flawed |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:17 AM |
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So it's different when BuchCo eavesdrops without warrants than when ObamaCo does it? |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:21 AM |
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ANd, Obama's indefinite detentions are better than bush's too! |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:25 AM |
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Yep President Obama supported green energy, stem cell research, the poor, students |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:29 AM |
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Has Greenwald criticized Obama for any of those things? |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:32 AM |
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He has criticized President Obama for opposing the Citizens United ruling |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:40 AM |
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And yet you are unable to understand the concept that there some things OBAMA says/does that are |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:55 AM |
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Oh I have no doubt you don't forgive the President for some perceived slight |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 11:44 AM |
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Obama will make do just fine with the almost million bucks his last campaign got from Goldman Sachs |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 03:30 PM |
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See that's not exactly true. President Obama made his money with small donations |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 04:47 PM |
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I applaud most of his domestic efforts. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:33 AM |
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Yet there are no posts of you applauding, why is that? |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:41 AM |
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Sure there are. You can find some if you search. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 10:43 AM |
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Yep President Obama supported green energy, stem cell research, the poor, students |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:29 AM |
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It is different to some people as you can see |
spiritual_gunfighter |
May-09-10 05:12 PM |
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Yep. |
cornermouse |
May-09-10 10:24 AM |
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Yep President Obama supported green energy, stem cell research, the poor, students |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:29 AM |
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More desperation in motion. |
cornermouse |
May-09-10 10:33 AM |
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You failed to address a single point I raised |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:37 AM |
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You failed to address what Greenwald had to say about them re Obama. |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:53 AM |
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Gleenwald thinks the President was wrong to defend us against corporate domination |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 11:45 AM |
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They addressed three of your points. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 12:38 PM |
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Yet you couldn't list a single one |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 04:49 PM |
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May-09-10 05:14 PM |
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. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 05:51 PM |
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Please point out where Greenwald has criticized Obama for that? |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:33 AM |
#67 |
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President Obama criticized quite vehemently Citizens United |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:36 AM |
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I'm not talking about Citizens United. I'm talking about the other things you mentioned. |
katandmoon |
May-09-10 10:52 AM |
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We are talking a Supreme Court justice so nothing is more important than the worst ruling |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 11:40 AM |
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It was not the worse ruling in history. |
tekisui |
May-09-10 12:42 PM |
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This one has the potential to END OUR DEMOCRACY |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 04:49 PM |
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Are you familiar with those cases? |
tekisui |
May-10-10 06:28 PM |
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Greenwald has been consistent in his rabid bias. |
saltpoint |
May-09-10 10:34 AM |
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Critical thinking = "bias" |
brentspeak |
May-09-10 10:28 AM |
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Glenn Greenwald has not shown any 'thinking" much less any of a critical nature |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 10:31 AM |
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Relax, brentspeak. The next thing I say is as unpredictable as a |
saltpoint |
May-09-10 10:32 AM |
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As I've said above, I unsubscribed to his crap |
HughMoran |
May-09-10 11:38 AM |
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Hi, HughMoran. Good for you. And I have no qualms about the guy's |
saltpoint |
May-09-10 11:44 AM |
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May-09-10 11:26 AM |
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I think Glenn Greenwald is more consistant than most |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
May-09-10 11:38 AM |
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Greenwald's support for the Citizen United ruling shows he is |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 11:43 AM |
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The smear machine appears to be running on all cylinders. |
freddie mertz |
May-09-10 01:46 PM |
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You are of course referring to Greenwald, who clearly is a master at smearing |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 04:45 PM |
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But, he's a coward..he can smear his ass off.. |
Cha |
May-09-10 05:09 PM |
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May-09-10 05:23 PM |
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May-09-10 05:30 PM |
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No, I wasn't. nt. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 07:42 AM |
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Kagan is a witch? Thanks to Glenn for letting me know! The |
CBR |
May-09-10 06:38 PM |
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She turned me into a newt |
NJmaverick |
May-09-10 06:53 PM |
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That explains it, then. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 07:44 AM |
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May-09-10 09:44 PM |
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Silly. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 07:42 AM |
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What is silly is decrying the "smear machine" while engaging in it. nt |
CBR |
May-10-10 08:51 AM |
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Greenwald's wrong on this one- but he's right about Holder and Kagan's abandonment of principles |
depakid |
May-09-10 07:37 PM |
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May-09-10 07:56 PM |
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Greenwald is this week's Emmanuel Goldstein. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 07:58 AM |
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Greenwald is getting what he deserved, he was dishonest in his attacks on the President's supporters |
NJmaverick |
May-10-10 08:47 AM |
#153 |
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Forgive me if I am unmoved. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 09:39 AM |
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Principled and Greenwald should not be used in the same sentence |
NJmaverick |
May-10-10 09:41 AM |
#156 |
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I expected too much I guess. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 09:47 AM |
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What hurts OUR cause is your efforts to undermine our DEMOCRATIC President |
NJmaverick |
May-10-10 09:50 AM |
#158 |
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Nonsense. |
freddie mertz |
May-10-10 10:23 AM |
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You showed him a thing or two, |
Moochy |
May-10-10 08:49 PM |
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May-10-10 08:38 AM |
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He's clueless about Kagan's legal briefs, too. SCOTUSBlog has refuted his bullshit attacks on her. |
ClarkUSA |
May-10-10 08:03 PM |
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Slimy hack tactics by the OP. This is really embarrassing. |
Flaneur |
May-11-10 01:59 AM |
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"slimey hack tactics"? look at yourself. |
Cha |
May-11-10 02:34 PM |
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