Reply #82: Have you compared it?

[zipplewrath]

It really does look alot like the bill the GOP proposed. Heck, McCain campaigned upon some of it. Yeah, it has a touch of Romneycare thrown in, of course alot of that was drawn from the same influences that the GOP used in creating their bill.

And of course they didn't vote for it. Why vote for it when your opponents will do it for you? That's one of the weaknesses of triangulation. They cab "rope a dope" ya if you're not careful.

As for a few of the rest of your post, it's full of double dipping, and is completely unsourced of course but:

~ Passing the "largest" economic stimulus bill in American history.

Something that both candidates admitted would have to be done. The only question was the mix. Obama removed several of the more progressive features seeking GOP support. He got some in the House. He got precious little in the Senate.

~ Ordering the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and abolishing "enhanced interrogation techniques"; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

Actually, this isn't true. Yes, he ordered it moved, not closed. He did not "abolish" the techniques, he withheld authorization, but reserved the right to re-authorize them. The techniques had ended years earlier by Bush and the memos authorizing them were withdrawn on Bush's last day.

~ "Returning science to its rightful place" by lifting the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.

He did sign it. But something very similar was passed during Bush, and supported by GOP members of congress. Bush vetoed it, but it had rather wide GOP support. Nancy Reagan even lobbied for it.

~ Signing laws to expand children's health insurance (financed by a 61-cent per pack increase in the federal cigarette tax the adviser did not tout).

Yes he did. Of course, again, this was a left over from the previous congress. It passed then, with GOP support. But again, Bush vetoed it.

~ Diminishing the role of lobbyists in the White House

And immediately gave an exemption to one of his appointees. And although not lobbiests, the movement of people from the very firms being bailed out into jobs where they could influence those bailouts was disturbing.

~ Passed the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009 in February - has played a key role in turnaround of economy over the last 3 quarters

Again, kinda double dipping here aren't ya?


~ Passed the largest middle-class tax cut in history - $288 billion

This lame when they do it. It's not any better when we do. It's big because of inflation. And he KEPT the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy. He opposed a tax increase on the wealthiest to support HCR and preferred a cadillac tax, against which he campaigned.

And my favorite:

87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured

Attempting is right. He tried and failed. Instead he reformed the health INSURANCE industry, mandating that people buy health insurance with no guarantees they will receive or be able to afford health CARE. If their income is within certain brackets, they are exempt from the mandate which means they'll have no health insurance. And their own estimates are that once it is fully in effect, there will STILL be 25 million uninsured people in the US.