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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:18 AM
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44. Your few quotes are not proof of your assertions that he "bragged". He was stating facts...
... not doing a dance in the end zone.
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  -"President Obama's strategy gets personal" Clio the Leo  Apr-27-10 08:14 AM   #0 
  - Fine, I've got a list  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 08:18 AM   #1 
  - Nelson (I'm saying that the same way Seinfeld would say "Newman"). nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Apr-27-10 08:22 AM   #2 
  - Publically calling out Dennis...  proudohioan   Apr-27-10 08:43 AM   #5 
     - Progressives are his favorite punching bag  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 08:48 AM   #6 
     - Doncha remember....  proudohioan   Apr-27-10 08:57 AM   #7 
     - "Progressives are his favorite punching bag"?? Prove it. The OP refutes your baseless polemic.  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 09:21 AM   #9 
        - He bragged to the GOP  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 10:34 AM   #16 
           - Where are the sourced facts or quotes? I prefer contextual facts to vitriolic spin. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 10:53 AM   #19 
           - Meeting at the Blair House  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 12:17 PM   #22 
              - That was a statement of fact. I am still waiting for proof that he "bragged to the GOP". n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 02:44 PM   #26 
                 - Those statements were made TO the GOP  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 07:31 AM   #35 
                    - "He bragged to the GOP that he rejected "progressive ideas" So far, I see no proof.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 09:54 AM   #39 
                       - Quotes aren't proof?  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:12 AM   #41 
                          - Your few quotes are not proof of your assertions that he "bragged". He was stating facts...  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:18 AM   #44 
                             - Your entire argument boils down to  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:26 AM   #46 
                                - He never said "to the GOP" that he "rejected progressive ideas". You're spinning the facts.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:38 AM   #50 
                                   - I provided the quote  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:55 AM   #56 
                                      - You're moving the goalposts again. When did he say that "to the GOP"?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:06 AM   #59 
                                         - Now you're really desperate  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:28 AM   #64 
                                            - How in the world can you twist that into he "bragged to the GOP that he rejected progressive ideas"?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:32 AM   #65 
                                               - No, he is pandering to the right  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:41 AM   #67 
                                               - If that's true, then why is he calling Republicans out for not supporting financial reform?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:47 AM   #68 
                                               - We shall see  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:53 AM   #70 
                                               - President Obama has had the best first year in history but there are always those who enjoy...  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 12:22 PM   #73 
                                               - Just not very progressive  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 12:29 PM   #75 
                                               - HCR, financial reform, immigration reform, and climate change legislation are not "GOP ideas".  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 12:50 PM   #78 
                                               - According to Obama  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 01:09 PM   #79 
                                               - That purposefully vague statement is not proof of what you're saying; it's polite persuasion.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 01:29 PM   #80 
                                               - Have you compared it?  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 02:06 PM   #82 
                                               - Did you want to "Kill the Bill" rather than have HCR signed into law?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 02:22 PM   #84 
                                               - Some of them DID happen under GOP leadership  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 02:26 PM   #85 
                                               - TARP was revamped under President Obama and so were the GM bailouts. GOP leaders opposed both.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 02:33 PM   #87 
                                               - Which is different than "wouldn't have happened"  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 02:37 PM   #88 
                                               - Wrong. Republicans never would have added the repayment terms that Pres. Obama did.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 02:57 PM   #91 
                                               - Who said "that way"  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:01 PM   #92 
                                               - McCain was advocating Palin, too. So what? He was for immigration reform before he was against it.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:05 PM   #95 
                                               - You're dishonest  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:14 PM   #98 
                                               - Says the person who insists against all reality that President Obama "called out" Dennis Kucinich?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:18 PM   #99 
                                               - You admitted it  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:21 PM   #102 
                                               - lol! I thought you were "done"?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:26 PM   #104 
                                               - And done  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:32 PM   #106 
                                               - You're conflating again.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:52 PM   #109 
                                               - You clearly admitted your deception  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:56 PM   #111 
                                               - When did I do that, dear? Provide the link(s) to exact quotes in context. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 04:00 PM   #113 
           - Would you provide us links for each of your points?  Control-Z   Apr-28-10 02:43 AM   #33 
              - Asked and answered  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 07:32 AM   #36 
                 - No, you keep offering spin and no proof.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:02 AM   #40 
                    - I never was a big Clinton fan  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:13 AM   #42 
                       - Who are you a big fan of?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:20 AM   #45 
                          - On what subject?  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:28 AM   #48 
                             - Who did you support during the election year?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:42 AM   #52 
                                - Stared out with Richardson  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:47 AM   #53 
                                   - The former chairman of the DLC who was for the Iraq war before he was against it?  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:57 AM   #57 
                                      - No, all you do is claim they are false  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:03 AM   #58 
                                         - That's because your gross exaggerations are not remotely true, as I have repeatedly shown. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:11 AM   #60 
                                            - You have "shown" nothing  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:16 AM   #62 
                                               - Of course I have. Repeatedly. See Reply 40, for example...  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:22 AM   #63 
                                                  - Quotes are "twists"  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 11:40 AM   #66 
                                                  - No, your claims are "twists" of the few factual quotes you've offered.Other claims are simply false.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:51 AM   #69 
                                                  - You guys never seem to know what he has said  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 12:09 PM   #71 
                                                  - Oh, I know. He said the same thing as a candidate. I wanted you to provide the link pro forma.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 12:20 PM   #72 
                                                  - And I never said otherwise  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 12:28 PM   #74 
                                                  - Um, you said he said "to the GOP that he rejected progressive ideas" which is totally false.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 12:39 PM   #76 
                                                  - He said it himself  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 12:49 PM   #77 
                                                  - No, you keep deliberately mischaracterizing a few of his statements as "proof" of nefarious intent.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 01:53 PM   #81 
                                                  - Ha  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 02:07 PM   #83 
                                                  - You never proved any of your claims. You simply spun a few quotes into gross exaggeration.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 02:27 PM   #86 
                                                  - So you have no cites and you didn't read your own post  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 02:41 PM   #89 
                                                  - Um, I did provide "cites". It appears you're not reading my posts.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 02:51 PM   #90 
                                                  - How lame  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:03 PM   #93 
                                                  - No, I didn't. I added the "cites" before I even read your "lame" baiting taunts.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:10 PM   #96 
                                                  - You're dishonest  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:14 PM   #97 
                                                  - No, you're the one pushing false memes here. I simply have refuted them. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:19 PM   #100 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-27-10 09:16 AM   #8 
        - Dennis Kucinich sure didn't seem to mind, as his Esquire op-ed proved. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 09:22 AM   #10 
           - Dennis doesn't even believe that Dennis was called out. Can't let that stop a good phony outrage.  phleshdef   Apr-27-10 10:23 AM   #15 
              - So we're going to argue semantics?  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 10:36 AM   #17 
                 - No, we're stating the facts while you are spinning like a top. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 10:56 AM   #20 
                 - So he didn't do those things?  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 12:20 PM   #24 
                    - President Obama didn't "call out" Dennis Kucinich.  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 02:47 PM   #27 
                       - Every single one happened  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 09:06 PM   #30 
                          - Prove it. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 09:07 PM   #31 
                             - Fair enough.  JoeyT   Apr-28-10 12:18 AM   #32 
                                - Here ya go  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 07:30 AM   #34 
                                - Okay...  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 09:22 AM   #38 
                                   - I gave quotes  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:18 AM   #43 
                                      - You're moving the goalposts now.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:27 AM   #47 
                                         - Ha  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:32 AM   #49 
                                            - How did I do that? I specifically said that your claims were false and proceeded to prove it. n/t  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 10:39 AM   #51 
                                               - You proved nothing  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 10:49 AM   #54 
                                                  - Opinions are not facts. Your polemic is made up of pure conjecture.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 11:14 AM   #61 
                                                  - I did  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:04 PM   #94 
                                                  - No, you simply kept repeating your false memes without providing a shred of proof.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:21 PM   #101 
                                                  - you're dishonest  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:22 PM   #103 
                                                  - Your outrage is as predictable as it is misplaced.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:30 PM   #105 
                                                  - And I honestly made my case  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:39 PM   #107 
                                                  - I think not. You repeatedly insisted President Obama said something he did not.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:49 PM   #108 
                                                  - No comparison  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 03:55 PM   #110 
                                                  - No, there isn't any comparison between your opinions and the true facts about President Obama.  ClarkUSA   Apr-28-10 03:59 PM   #112 
                 - A constituent yelled "vote Yes", Obama said "You hear that Dennis?"... WOW, such a HUGE callout.  phleshdef   Apr-27-10 11:01 AM   #21 
                    - It was lame  zipplewrath   Apr-27-10 12:18 PM   #23 
                    - Dennis did hear..and Dennis  Cha   Apr-27-10 01:08 PM   #25 
                    - That was good natured -- for  cadmium   Apr-27-10 02:50 PM   #28 
                       - Why were they there?  zipplewrath   Apr-28-10 07:51 AM   #37 
  - GObama! GObama! GObama!  Dr Morbius   Apr-27-10 08:31 AM   #3 
  - He gave them a fair chance to work with him  NJmaverick   Apr-27-10 08:37 AM   #4 
  - Mr. President, I LOVE YOU!  Change Happens   Apr-27-10 09:25 AM   #11 
  - He has tried numerous times to get them on board.. so I have no sympathy for the right.  Peacetrain   Apr-27-10 09:32 AM   #12 
  - "Rather than going after big groups of bad guys..." Isn't it better if he makes it ideological?  rudy23   Apr-27-10 09:33 AM   #13 
  - DU loves Politico!  Enrique   Apr-27-10 09:41 AM   #14 
  - I don't. This Politico article is full of quotes from Republicans scolding Obama's approach.  ClarkUSA   Apr-27-10 02:59 PM   #29 
  - Excellent!  Captain Hilts   Apr-27-10 10:50 AM   #18 
  - They forgot one. John McCain is a crazy old coot who doesn't know the  Phx_Dem   Apr-28-10 10:51 AM   #55 

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