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56. actually Clinton ended all other discrimination by the federal government against gays via executive
order, and order which survived 8 years of the Bush Administration, but don't let incovenient facts get in the way of a good story.
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  -I have to say this, we gays made what happened during this administration for gays possible dsc  Apr-22-10 05:08 PM   #0 
  - god job :)  dave29   Apr-22-10 05:09 PM   #1 
  - bitin' the hand that feeds you in....3....2....  VMI Dem   Apr-22-10 05:11 PM   #2 
  - Exactly. It is not 1993.  Prism   Apr-22-10 05:13 PM   #3 
  - I guess I'm interested in what troubles people about this.  newtothegame   Apr-23-10 01:42 PM   #43 
     - 100% false. "Fierce Advocate for the GLBT community" he told us.  closeupready   Apr-23-10 02:37 PM   #47 
        - But that's my point. His rhetoric and our blinders told us a story that was completely different...  newtothegame   Apr-23-10 02:41 PM   #48 
           - To some extent, perhaps so.  closeupready   Apr-23-10 02:42 PM   #49 
           - Peace friend. I completely agree that he has been a letdown, not a fierce advocate at all.  newtothegame   Apr-23-10 02:44 PM   #50 
              - I agree.  muffin1   Apr-23-10 03:59 PM   #52 
           - I voted for him because he promised  shedevil69taz   Apr-25-10 10:41 PM   #75 
  - K&R  muffin1   Apr-22-10 05:13 PM   #4 
  - A rising tide lifts all boats. They have moved all goalposts.  Gman2   Apr-22-10 05:16 PM   #5 
  - Very clear and to the point  Bluenorthwest   Apr-22-10 05:24 PM   #6 
  - Indeed.  TokenQueer   Apr-22-10 05:30 PM   #8 
  - Should be taking notes indeed.  BlueIris   Apr-22-10 08:04 PM   #18 
  - I don't judge. My husband's uncle is gay and has HIV. It has been a long, tough  Jennicut   Apr-22-10 09:38 PM   #21 
     - And  ruggerson   Apr-22-10 09:48 PM   #22 
        - MANY Southern Baptists are hateful hypocrites. Almost all are hateful.  jesus_of_suburbia   Apr-22-10 10:16 PM   #23 
        - New Englanders generally don't give a crap about someone else's business. We have a rep for being  Jennicut   Apr-23-10 12:16 AM   #28 
           - I live in Mass and that sounds about right.  Forkboy   Apr-23-10 01:17 PM   #40 
              - The land of the constant beeping?  Jennicut   Apr-23-10 01:53 PM   #45 
  - I have missed your posts. NT  Clio the Leo   Apr-22-10 05:25 PM   #7 
  - obama wants to drag it out until too many repub votes make it impossible to dump DADT then he can  msongs   Apr-22-10 05:52 PM   #9 
  - +1  muffin1   Apr-22-10 06:13 PM   #10 
  - -1 When will you learn, that is the fake, not the jab.  Gman2   Apr-22-10 06:31 PM   #11 
  - +1,000,000 n/t  muffin1   Apr-22-10 09:14 PM   #19 
  - Imagine if all the other groups  Hutzpa   Apr-22-10 06:49 PM   #12 
  - Nobody thinks the republicans would do a better job.  muffin1   Apr-22-10 07:01 PM   #13 
  - Whats more important?  Hutzpa   Apr-22-10 07:10 PM   #14 
     - I thought he was a jedi master.  muffin1   Apr-22-10 07:20 PM   #16 
     - "I'm not against gay . . ."  Prism   Apr-22-10 07:43 PM   #17 
     - If you have to say it...........  Tailormyst   Apr-22-10 09:33 PM   #20 
  - The fact is that gay groups would be estatic if the following three things were done  dsc   Apr-22-10 10:56 PM   #24 
     - And three is in the works, right?  Radical Activist   Apr-22-10 11:49 PM   #26 
        - we were promised DADT this year  dsc   Apr-23-10 12:02 AM   #27 
           - There are still 8 months left in the year.  LiberalFighter   Apr-23-10 07:23 AM   #30 
              - Maybe  muffin1   Apr-23-10 07:54 AM   #31 
                 - Like I also stated in another post. IMO religion is a factor.  LiberalFighter   Apr-23-10 08:04 AM   #32 
                 - His supposed religion doesn't seem to affect his thinking on any other issue.  QC   Apr-23-10 08:10 AM   #33 
                 - Oh, I 'm sure it IS a factor.  muffin1   Apr-23-10 08:18 AM   #34 
                 - I don't think his bond to his religion is causing the problem...  onpatrol98   Apr-26-10 10:23 PM   #89 
                 - So he has a process.  Radical Activist   Apr-23-10 10:13 AM   #35 
                 - There already IS support for repealing DADT.  muffin1   Apr-23-10 10:25 AM   #36 
                 - Sure, he should do it quickly by executive order  Radical Activist   Apr-24-10 08:59 PM   #55 
                    - actually Clinton ended all other discrimination by the federal government against gays via executive  dsc   Apr-24-10 09:04 PM   #56 
                       - Well, I'm glad Clinton solved everything. There must be nothing more to do  Radical Activist   Apr-24-10 09:54 PM   #58 
                          - You got caught in a mistake or a lie you choose  dsc   Apr-24-10 10:06 PM   #59 
                             - You didn't click on the link, did you?  Radical Activist   Apr-24-10 10:29 PM   #60 
                                - If it isn't done by November  dsc   Apr-24-10 10:35 PM   #61 
                                   - The lame-duck session of Congress meets in December.  Radical Activist   Apr-24-10 10:53 PM   #62 
                                      - there is so way this will be passed by a lame duck Congress  dsc   Apr-24-10 11:00 PM   #63 
                                      - But, but, but, I thought this was politically easy  Radical Activist   Apr-24-10 11:42 PM   #64 
                                         - It is based on the assumption that some of our defeated members will respect the outcome on an  dsc   Apr-25-10 06:21 AM   #65 
                                            - That was a cool episode on west wing,  Radical Activist   Apr-25-10 01:52 PM   #66 
                                      - I am bookmarking this thread and will bring it up again in December.  QC   Apr-25-10 02:08 PM   #67 
                                         - What if DADT is repealed before then?  Radical Activist   Apr-25-10 03:11 PM   #68 
                                            - Anything is possible, I suppose, but that is not likely,  QC   Apr-25-10 03:36 PM   #69 
                                               - Right, not until December. What's the source on that again?  Radical Activist   Apr-25-10 04:15 PM   #70 
                                               - Then bully for you!  QC   Apr-25-10 04:33 PM   #71 
                 - Given our near certain losses in the midterms  dsc   Apr-23-10 01:00 PM   #37 
                 - You posted a link that is making  Hutzpa   Apr-23-10 01:28 PM   #41 
                    - Gay rights is a complicated issue.  muffin1   Apr-23-10 01:42 PM   #42 
                    - I hate it when people ignore history.  donco6   Apr-25-10 07:24 PM   #72 
                    - In their defense, waiting until after November drastically reduces the chance of passage  Hippo_Tron   Apr-26-10 12:18 AM   #80 
  - I agree with most of what you say......  FrenchieCat   Apr-22-10 07:13 PM   #15 
  - I'm not sure I get the Truman reference.  Radical Activist   Apr-22-10 11:41 PM   #25 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-23-10 01:39 AM   #29 
  - Don't underestimate how far-right this country is going  Cali_Democrat   Apr-23-10 01:09 PM   #38 
  - Not on DADT.  muffin1   Apr-23-10 01:47 PM   #44 
  - I think that's a very important point:  Zenlitened   Apr-23-10 01:16 PM   #39 
  - It was always ever thus. Like with ACT-UP.  closeupready   Apr-23-10 02:36 PM   #46 
  - Actually, history and culture changed.  Writer   Apr-23-10 03:19 PM   #51 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-10 02:09 AM   #53 
  - the OP has consistently honored Clinton for his work on this  dsc   Apr-24-10 05:41 AM   #54 
     - "Clinton for all his faults was a consistent advocate for our issues who made some mistakes."  Lord Helmet   Apr-26-10 11:15 AM   #82 
        - You have to believe Shrum which I don't  dsc   Apr-26-10 06:25 PM   #84 
           - I thought the entire argument was compelling.  Lord Helmet   Apr-26-10 09:43 PM   #88 
              - I read the whole thing  dsc   Apr-27-10 04:29 AM   #90 
                 - John Aravosis is a reliable journalist and it's disingenuous to throw him under the bus  Lord Helmet   Apr-27-10 09:05 AM   #91 
                    - I am not saying he isn't  dsc   Apr-27-10 10:05 AM   #92 
  - +1  Dawgs   Apr-26-10 08:38 AM   #81 
  - No one has given GLBT folk anything  Politicub   Apr-24-10 09:06 PM   #57 
  - Just an observation -- why DADT is not repealed yet.  fortyfeetunder   Apr-25-10 10:18 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-10 10:37 PM   #74 
     - You're accusing me of hating gays?  fortyfeetunder   Apr-25-10 11:46 PM   #77 
        - No, s/he's just playing the martyr, implying that those mean ole homos  QC   Apr-25-10 11:52 PM   #78 
  - Good comparison between Clinton & Obama eras.  burning rain   Apr-25-10 11:12 PM   #76 
  - Politicians don't hand anybody their civil rights  Hippo_Tron   Apr-26-10 12:14 AM   #79 
  - All of that hard work would have still be culminated under President McCain, right?  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Apr-26-10 01:44 PM   #83 
     - Name one thing that Obama has done that Clinton didn't  dsc   Apr-26-10 06:27 PM   #85 
        - Did Clinton expand medical rights to same sex couples?  JTFrog   Apr-26-10 06:42 PM   #86 
           - in fairness Obama did do that  dsc   Apr-26-10 07:22 PM   #87 

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