Reply #140: Nevertheless, HCR law is cutting them out, to taxpayers' benefit.

[ClarkUSA]

<<The subsidies for uncompensated care are ending as they are not expected to have very much uncompensated care. It will be a net gain.>>

According to estimates I've read, hospitals stand to make $170B but that's only a net gain of $15B. As I said before, I don't have a problem with hospitals getting paid for the uninsured patients they treat rather than going bankrupt. They need to meet payroll, buy equipment, etc.

<<So, title VI, section 6001? I see nothing there that limits the hospital corporations' profits.>>

I never said it did. Here's what I said:

"Furthermore, under Title VI, Section 6001 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a provision is titled “Physician Ownership and Other Transparency – Limitations on Medicare Exceptions to the Prohibition on Certain Physician Referral for Hospitals” will ban new doctor-owned hospitals and blocks expansion of existing ones."

This, HCR law is is a death knell for certain hospitals.

<<Are you saying it did not benefit the hospital corps to keep the public option out? Are you saying they have not been gouging the public for 20 years for the purpose of outrageous executive compensation and shareholder dividends to the detriment of patient care? Why would anyone defend the practices of the hospital corps of the past 20 years? How could anyone who cares about health care defend their practices?>>

I said none of these things. I simply asked you for proof of your claims. As I said before, I don't have a problem with hospitals getting paid by the federal government under the HCR law for the undocumented workers and uninsured Americans they treat rather than face bankruptcy like St Vincent's in New York's Greenwich Village.