Reply #9: What's amazing is that they *still* don't believe in responsibility

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It must just be part of the Conservative derangement; nobody should every be held accountable for what he or she does. The real sense of the thread seems to be "it doesn't matter how we got into this situation, we just need to get out of it." Well, in most bad situations it really does matter how you got into it if you want to get out of it.