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11. a samurai muslin!
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  -How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow cravermi  Nov-14-09 06:01 PM   #0 
  - This just proves he's muslin!!!!!!!!  Frank Booth   Nov-14-09 06:11 PM   #1 
  - Muslin is bendy, alright.  Fridays Child   Nov-14-09 06:23 PM   #10 
  - a samurai muslin!  d_b   Nov-14-09 06:24 PM   #11 
  - Obama!  mdmc   Nov-14-09 06:13 PM   #2 
  - No, this way  Confusious   Nov-15-09 01:34 AM   #110 
  - Politically, it seems dumb to have bowed, especially that low IMO.  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 06:16 PM   #3 
  - Imv, there are too many nit pickers over the respect President  Cha   Nov-14-09 06:34 PM   #15 
  - It's called PROTOCOL!!!  JanusAscending   Nov-14-09 06:45 PM   #16 
     - Than how come the Emperor didn't return the bow?  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:05 PM   #18 
     - A protocol in which your guests must show their respect for and inferiority to you is inappropriate  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:10 PM   #20 
     - +10000000000000000000000000000 n/t  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:16 PM   #28 
     - Jesus, stop. You look more stupid and ignorant than you can imagine.  Bonobo   Nov-14-09 11:56 PM   #104 
        - I disagree. Obama as a Head of State should not be bowing  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:49 AM   #115 
     - No, it's not...  HarryFilin   Nov-14-09 07:13 PM   #24 
     - Biiiiig deal. Another non-issue issue  PhilosopherKing   Nov-14-09 08:44 PM   #63 
     - Hey, thanks for that link to a wingnut site.  sabrina 1   Nov-15-09 12:59 AM   #108 
     - No. Proper protocol does not demand that a U.S. President  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:48 AM   #114 
  - If emperor is not going to bow, than I think the emperor was wrong  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 06:17 PM   #4 
  - Sorry, but the Japanese have a Representative Monarchy just like the British. The  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:03 PM   #17 
  - Than Americans shouldn't bow to someone just because  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:06 PM   #19 
  - That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever read here. We are allies with Japan.  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:11 PM   #23 
     - Ignorant? How so?  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:15 PM   #26 
     - It's ignorant because she disagrees with you!  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:16 PM   #27 
     - Wrong. It's ignorant because the poster doesn't understand international relations. And I'm female  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:22 PM   #35 
     - It's the appropriate behavior to show respect to the Japanese Emperor. If you're not  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:20 PM   #34 
     - And why is the "EMPEROR" entitled to 'RESPECT' and I am not?  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:23 PM   #37 
     - Because you're a regular American citizen-nothing worth officially bowing to. n/t  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:26 PM   #43 
     - Two national leaders are expected to show the same respect to each other.  pnwmom   Nov-14-09 11:43 PM   #101 
     - Its just appropriate behavior in Japan  Confusious   Nov-15-09 01:38 AM   #111 
     - Jesus Robert  CatWoman   Nov-14-09 07:36 PM   #49 
     - If that was international protocol for Japan; I guess we would all have to be ok with it.  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:41 PM   #51 
     - Well if the emperor "smiled back," that would be good enough apparently  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:47 PM   #54 
     - ...  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:41 PM   #52 
     - Not only ignorant..  Cha   Nov-14-09 07:48 PM   #56 
     - No, it isn't. I'm surprised at Obama bowing, too. American women aren't expected  pnwmom   Nov-14-09 11:42 PM   #99 
        - My husband is Japanese and lived there 'til 1990. I'm sure he knows more than you do about  jenmito   Nov-14-09 11:58 PM   #105 
           - I'm sure he knows more about Japanese protocol. But Obama is the President  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:43 AM   #112 
  - Just because they have a policy in place doesn't mean the policy is appropriate.  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:13 PM   #25 
  - I am so disappointed that there are supposed Dems. here as ignorant as RWers.  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:17 PM   #30 
     - Part of liberalism means challenging tradition. It's ignorant to follow tradition merely because  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:19 PM   #33 
        - It's not showing inferiority. It's showing RESPECT. Jeez-you're so ignorant!  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:25 PM   #40 
           - "Respect" for what? What "respect" did the emperor show Obama?  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:26 PM   #42 
           - Respect for his position in Japan!!! He smiled back. I'm done with you. n/t  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:28 PM   #44 
              - Epic Fail.  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:32 PM   #48 
              - Do you  Brooklyns_Finest   Nov-15-09 02:19 AM   #118 
           - Show me a definition of "bow" that does not indicate inferiority is being shown. Can you hold a  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:28 PM   #45 
              - I'm done with YOU, too. It's a sign of respect to bow like Obama did. Not inferiority. Bye. n/t  jenmito   Nov-14-09 07:30 PM   #46 
                 - You're quite intolerant of those who disagree with you. Bye.  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:31 PM   #47 
  - And Americans are not SUPPOSED to bow or curtsy in a way that indicates  pnwmom   Nov-14-09 11:44 PM   #102 
  - Exactly. And, by the same token, our President is not SUPPOSED to bow  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:45 AM   #113 
  - There is a lot of ignorance on this thread. Obama gave the proper bow for the age  Monk06   Nov-14-09 10:19 PM   #82 
     - I agree...  JanusAscending   Nov-14-09 10:28 PM   #83 
     - You've added to it significantly  notesdev   Nov-14-09 11:14 PM   #92 
        - Your putting words in my mouth I did not say he did highest respect bow  Monk06   Nov-14-09 11:30 PM   #97 
           - There is NO appropriate bow for the President of the United States, period  notesdev   Nov-14-09 11:35 PM   #98 
              - Jingoistic poppycock. The President of the United States is not exempt from obeying the rules  Monk06   Nov-14-09 11:42 PM   #100 
                 - Find me one historical example  notesdev   Nov-14-09 11:48 PM   #103 
                 - The handshake has its origins in assurring the person you are greeting that  Monk06   Nov-15-09 12:18 AM   #107 
                 - The President of the U.S. is the equal of any Head of State in the world  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:51 AM   #116 
  - I guess the RW  Mz Pip   Nov-14-09 06:17 PM   #5 
  - What was he supposed to do  CatWoman   Nov-14-09 06:17 PM   #6 
  - He could have thrown up on him.  Orrex   Nov-14-09 06:20 PM   #7 
  - *snicker*  CatWoman   Nov-14-09 06:22 PM   #8 
  - Nuke a couple of cities then accept his surrender.  Dead_Parrot   Nov-14-09 08:45 PM   #64 
  - Japan bashing is so 1980's.  bluestateguy   Nov-14-09 06:22 PM   #9 
  - Where did anyone say anything bad about the nation of Japan? The negative comments were directed  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:25 PM   #41 
     - Yes I'm aware of that Thank you.  bluestateguy   Nov-14-09 09:06 PM   #70 
  - Kissing is OK though  iamtechus   Nov-14-09 06:26 PM   #12 
  - and walking hand-in-hand  gmoney   Nov-14-09 09:02 PM   #68 
  - Pres. Obama was observing the customs of the country he was in.  ZombieHorde   Nov-14-09 06:29 PM   #13 
  - I wish i had seen the part of your OP that spoke to the comments  FirstLight   Nov-14-09 06:31 PM   #14 
  - Superiority complex? Not showing inferiority is not the same as showing superiority. A superiority  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:45 PM   #53 
  - I'd say that the superiority complex is with the Emperors/Kings/Queens  pnwmom   Nov-15-09 01:54 AM   #117 
  - Instead of debates in 2012, there should be three Limbo matches.  rug   Nov-14-09 07:11 PM   #21 
  - Absolutely nothing wrong with bowing so long as it is MUTUAL  Garam_Masala   Nov-14-09 07:11 PM   #22 
  - Agreed; since it wasn't mutual, it was inapropriate.  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:18 PM   #32 
     - DING DING DING  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 07:24 PM   #39 
        - You're both winners alright !!  JanusAscending   Nov-14-09 10:33 PM   #84 
  - In amongst the drek of comments, there were a few intelligent ones  dalaigh lllama   Nov-14-09 07:17 PM   #29 
  - I cannot find any definition of "bow" that does not indicate inferiority is being shown  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:23 PM   #38 
  - The countries I have travelled to:-------->>  Garam_Masala   Nov-14-09 09:16 PM   #71 
     - Countries I have been to  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 09:25 PM   #73 
        - Which country is your favorite?  Garam_Masala   Nov-14-09 09:37 PM   #75 
        - I like it a little warm  itsrobert   Nov-14-09 09:43 PM   #78 
           - South of France on Mediterranean is very mild weather  Garam_Masala   Nov-14-09 09:55 PM   #79 
        - Why did you bother to come back??  JanusAscending   Nov-14-09 10:37 PM   #85 
  - Hmmm. This was a little too low a bow for one sovereign ruler to another. Respect is one thing, but  Hekate   Nov-14-09 07:18 PM   #31 
  - That's true too. If he bowed his head mayb 5 or 6 inches, no one here would care.  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:22 PM   #36 
  - So many empty lives with nothing else to worry about but how many inches the president bowed.  Doremus   Nov-14-09 07:39 PM   #50 
  - You're apparently worrying about our worrying. That must be even one notch more heavenly!  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:48 PM   #55 
  - They're not worrying ..they're  Cha   Nov-14-09 07:49 PM   #57 
     - And you're whining about our alleged whining. You're taking whining to a whole new level  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 07:50 PM   #58 
        - I realize you have to have something to whine about  Cha   Nov-14-09 07:55 PM   #59 
        - Actually I like very little of what he's done (although McCain obviously would have been worse)  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 08:22 PM   #60 
           - Free Republic is that way -------->  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 08:38 PM   #62 
           - Will I find like minded Dennis Kucinich fans there? I'd be happy to post on a forum where they  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 10:48 PM   #86 
           - I don't care what you like.  Cha   Nov-14-09 08:50 PM   #65 
              - I don't care what you care about  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 10:48 PM   #87 
        - Personally, I'm mocking your whining.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Nov-14-09 09:05 PM   #69 
           - And I'm mocking yours  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 11:04 PM   #90 
  - *smh* and the racist and ignorant comments below the story in the link  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 08:37 PM   #61 
  - There's so much ignorance  Cha   Nov-14-09 08:51 PM   #66 
     - it's really frightening. you should read some of those comments on the link  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 08:58 PM   #67 
  - So my Japanese wife said: "That was a pretty good bow! Someone must have taught him."  Bonobo   Nov-14-09 09:17 PM   #72 
  - There are no downsides unless you're an ignorant racist  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 09:33 PM   #74 
  - Thanks for that, Bonobo..  Cha   Nov-14-09 09:38 PM   #76 
  - My comments.  johnaries   Nov-14-09 09:42 PM   #77 
  - +1  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 09:57 PM   #80 
  - Diplomacy instead of arrogance? Have you paid attention to the Afganistan and Iraq wars? I'm sure  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 11:01 PM   #88 
     - Yes, I have. Have you?  johnaries   Nov-14-09 11:23 PM   #95 
     - Yeah cause Japan's responsible for killing those young men and women.  Arkana   Nov-14-09 11:26 PM   #96 
  - I could care less about who he bows to- as long as he brings back good policy agreements  depakid   Nov-14-09 10:18 PM   #81 
  - Very simple question: Have other US Presidents bowed to foreign leaders like this?  Bonn1997   Nov-14-09 11:04 PM   #89 
  - Obama is not other Dem Presidents  HopeOverFear   Nov-14-09 11:11 PM   #91 
  - IBTL: We need troll repellant, they're starting threads now. n/t  vaberella   Nov-14-09 11:17 PM   #93 
  - A lot of fools in this thread who don't understand Japanese culture  LittleBlue   Nov-14-09 11:18 PM   #94 
  - OMG!! don't we have anything more important to talk about...  windbreeze   Nov-15-09 12:07 AM   #106 
  - hey, it's a pizza party!!  Aramchek   Nov-15-09 01:15 AM   #109 
  - What is keeping that stone?  PBS Poll-435   Nov-15-09 02:20 AM   #119 
  - This thread could serve a useful purpose.  JTFrog   Nov-15-09 04:04 AM   #120 
  - Obama properly follow protocol & courtesy in a foreign capital & some see this  Vidar   Nov-15-09 04:47 AM   #121 
  - Locking.  unhappycamper   Nov-15-09 06:38 AM   #122 
 

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