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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:11 PM
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31. toaster-dome!
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  -Anger over mandates is misplaced ncteechur  Mar-11-10 08:38 PM   #0 
  - Its about paying a private company that screws the person that people object to.  glowing   Mar-11-10 08:42 PM   #1 
  - More than that,  GreenArrow   Mar-11-10 08:44 PM   #2 
  - I can certainly understand that and that's why I'm for the public option  DrToast   Mar-11-10 08:49 PM   #11 
  - But the government sets the contracts.  Hello_Kitty   Mar-12-10 05:27 PM   #47 
     - yes they do and the gov is badass on Medicare  GinaMaria   Mar-16-10 06:54 PM   #72 
  - The govt buys school textbooks from private companies paid for with tax dollars.  phleshdef   Mar-11-10 08:53 PM   #14 
  - Your analogy fails  Birthmark   Mar-11-10 09:25 PM   #23 
     - Actually, we would save a lot of money.. AND with one method of paying, it would  glowing   Mar-11-10 09:55 PM   #24 
     - That's a reasonable assessment, imo.  Birthmark   Mar-11-10 10:09 PM   #29 
     - First off, its not an analogy. Its an actual, factual example of this all ready being done.  phleshdef   Mar-12-10 09:49 AM   #37 
        - Your example fails completely, to make it more like HCR...  Cleobulus   Mar-12-10 05:20 PM   #45 
           - You don't get to decide if it fails. Concrete concepts are not subject to your opinion.  phleshdef   Mar-16-10 06:44 PM   #71 
  - Would there be an objection to paying the same amount of money into Medicare?  stray cat   Mar-11-10 08:54 PM   #15 
  - UNREC (nt)  Dinger   Mar-11-10 08:44 PM   #3 
  - I'll agree with submitting to a government-run insurance mandate.  provis99   Mar-11-10 08:44 PM   #4 
  - Well, only it was single tiered, had a 100% actuarial value, and funded by taxes  Oregone   Mar-11-10 09:12 PM   #20 
  - I bet you do it right now.  mkultra   Mar-15-10 11:03 AM   #56 
  - Would you support mandates if Obama didn't?  katandmoon   Mar-11-10 08:46 PM   #5 
  - You Know That Answer To That One (nt)  Dinger   Mar-11-10 08:46 PM   #7 
  - Fuck It. Send me To Folsom  Dinger   Mar-11-10 08:46 PM   #6 
  - It is a tax not a fine.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-14-10 12:45 PM   #53 
  - Would you support a federal mandate for you to buy a Yugo at BMW prices?  IndianaGreen   Mar-11-10 08:47 PM   #8 
  - If you truly believe that....  daleanime   Mar-11-10 09:03 PM   #17 
  - Correctamundo. In Canada, everybody chips in. But it's Public Option for all, also. nt  Captain Hilts   Mar-11-10 08:48 PM   #9 
  - Having everyone in a fair non profit system is different than forcing commerce in a tiered, private  Oregone   Mar-11-10 09:10 PM   #19 
     - Yes, it is. nt  Captain Hilts   Mar-11-10 09:21 PM   #21 
  - Bull. Fucking. Shit.  Sebastian Doyle   Mar-11-10 08:49 PM   #10 
  - How's that cost containment working in Massachussetts, which has the nation's highest premiums?  brentspeak   Mar-11-10 08:50 PM   #12 
  - Shhh...don't bring that up. eom  Hello_Kitty   Mar-12-10 05:16 PM   #42 
  - you got that right  backwoodsbob   Mar-15-10 04:09 PM   #65 
  - Mandate with a Public Option makes sense -- Mandate without is a Giveaway.  denimgirly   Mar-11-10 08:50 PM   #13 
  - Mandate if there were real reform  meowomon   Mar-11-10 08:57 PM   #16 
  - What makes you think this is about cost containment?!?  Oregone   Mar-11-10 09:06 PM   #18 
  - Because mandates are to (some) Democrats what tort reform is to Republicans  Hello_Kitty   Mar-12-10 05:26 PM   #46 
     - I don't think they actually believe it, but they're too compromised to understand  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-12-10 05:58 PM   #49 
  - I agree. People need to pay in when they can, and the system will provide if they can't.  NYC_SKP   Mar-11-10 09:22 PM   #22 
  - keep telling that to the people voting your asses out  ibegurpard   Mar-11-10 09:56 PM   #25 
  - "your" asses? Are you a Republican?  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:03 PM   #27 
  - no, i'm a pop-tart head  ibegurpard   Mar-11-10 10:08 PM   #28 
     - yeah  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:10 PM   #30 
     - toaster-dome!  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:11 PM   #31 
     - *snort*  Bobbie Jo   Mar-11-10 10:48 PM   #34 
  - Seriously, I'd love to see these people go door to door with these talking points. eom  Hello_Kitty   Mar-12-10 05:17 PM   #43 
  - Agree completely.  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:02 PM   #26 
  - Rec for the noble effort....  Clio the Leo   Mar-11-10 10:42 PM   #32 
  - The list of enemies is endless, isn't it...  cornermouse   Mar-12-10 11:01 AM   #39 
  - Correction  izquierdista   Mar-11-10 10:44 PM   #33 
  - Obama campaigned against mandates  Gravel Democrat   Mar-12-10 12:29 AM   #35 
  - If its a tax - then the money must go to medicare, duh.  grahamhgreen   Mar-12-10 12:30 AM   #36 
  - We pay now.  BlueIdaho   Mar-12-10 10:46 AM   #38 
  - That only works if those people are insured under a SINGLE plan, not hundreds of private plans...  Cleobulus   Mar-12-10 05:07 PM   #40 
  - Every mandate supporter argues as though it's for single payer.  Hello_Kitty   Mar-12-10 05:19 PM   #44 
     - Exactly, it not like there just ONE insurance company in this country. n/t  Cleobulus   Mar-12-10 05:30 PM   #48 
  - We will be the first nation ever to mandate purchase of for profit  Bluenorthwest   Mar-12-10 05:16 PM   #41 
  - not true. Netherlands.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-14-10 12:49 PM   #54 
  - Well, well, well...  damonm   Mar-15-10 06:04 PM   #67 
  - Car insurance is mandated and private only.  mkultra   Mar-15-10 11:05 AM   #57 
     - and it's optional  blue_onyx   Mar-15-10 11:17 AM   #58 
        - It holds up as a close model  mkultra   Mar-15-10 11:45 AM   #59 
           - You can carry car insurance and never have to use it...  Cleobulus   Mar-15-10 03:14 PM   #63 
              - Comprehensive is not much more than liability  mkultra   Mar-15-10 05:22 PM   #66 
                 - Still not very comparable, cost stabilization in car insurance is possible...  Cleobulus   Mar-16-10 03:48 AM   #68 
                    - all of those facts can be easily averaged  mkultra   Mar-16-10 05:39 PM   #70 
                       - You seem to be taking that on faith, do you have an figures to back it up with? n/t  Cleobulus   Mar-16-10 08:19 PM   #74 
  - Uh  terrell9584   Mar-13-10 01:01 PM   #50 
  - Kick  Cha   Mar-14-10 11:54 AM   #51 
  - Wrong  Raineyb   Mar-14-10 12:34 PM   #52 
  - kick for the truth  NJmaverick   Mar-15-10 08:08 AM   #55 
  - The anger is over more than mandates to support dysfunctional, inefficient, corrupt, profit seeking  Uncle Joe   Mar-15-10 12:35 PM   #60 
  - Don't forget the single-payer-like program that's expanded in the bill.  backscatter712   Mar-15-10 03:02 PM   #61 
  - Medicaid isn't single payer, or even single payer like if not everyone can participate...  Cleobulus   Mar-15-10 03:10 PM   #62 
  - In the short term, it may reduce premiums by maybe 10%, overall...  Cleobulus   Mar-15-10 03:20 PM   #64 
  - Mandate != Tax. I wish they would simply institute a HC coverage  harun   Mar-16-10 09:02 AM   #69 
  - Misplaced and selfish. A decades long struggle may fail because of that.  theothersnippywshrub   Mar-16-10 07:43 PM   #73 
 

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