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austin78704 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 07:32 AM
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54. If that makes Kucininch a bad congressman
then the same logic will make the majority of republicans good congressmen since they got all kinds of bills passed--nevermind that they're all shit bills that did tremendous harm,

OTOH, if you look at Kucinich's speeches, he's been on the correct side of just about every fight. Had the other democrats stood up with him, we'd not be wasting so much money and so many lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We'd have a better energy policy, we'd have a better education system, we'd have better just about everything that the congress has touched. The healthcare fight would be over and we'd all be covered. Maybe we ought to be pounding on the appeasement wing of the democrats.

Kucinich is a man who'd rather be right than powerful.

You know, applying the OP's logic to Obama vs. Bush, Bush was a better president because he got a whole lot more done in the same amount of time. Either we're all on the wrong team, or the OP's logic is bullshit.
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  -The Case Against Kucinich wyldwolf  Mar-11-10 07:11 PM   #0 
  - This is not a case against DK, this is a case against the other Democrats in office. nt  ZombieHorde   Mar-11-10 07:18 PM   #1 
  - +1  Orsino   Mar-14-10 03:40 PM   #84 
  - This is why "Kucinich stands with Kucinich" as Lynn Woolsey said...  jenmito   Mar-11-10 07:20 PM   #2 
  - Kucinich prefers to sit at the back of class and throw spit wads  DrToast   Mar-11-10 07:26 PM   #3 
  - The case against the pro-corporatist, pro-war wing of the Democratic Party  IndianaGreen   Mar-11-10 07:38 PM   #4 
  - What does corporatist mean?  mr715   Mar-11-10 07:39 PM   #5 
     - Capitalism is NOT free market. It is monopoly!  IndianaGreen   Mar-11-10 07:46 PM   #6 
     - Well, no.  mr715   Mar-11-10 07:54 PM   #8 
     - Our "Founding Fathers"  h9socialist   Mar-12-10 07:51 AM   #55 
     - you have a funny definition of capitalism. if properly regulated, it's a great system.  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:04 AM   #56 
     - It's a catch-all gobbledygook word for "anybody who supports American capitalism"  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 07:52 PM   #7 
     - Well no, the meaning is quite obvious. Consider health care reform.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-11-10 09:25 PM   #10 
     - "The corruption is manifest. Denying the obvious is delusional."  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 09:47 PM   #15 
        - about as deep as pop-tart heads  ibegurpard   Mar-11-10 09:54 PM   #17 
        - At least I am funny  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 09:57 PM   #19 
           - but you're not  ibegurpard   Mar-11-10 10:02 PM   #21 
              - I laughed when I posted it  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:05 PM   #24 
              - I laughed at it.  suzie   Mar-13-10 08:15 PM   #74 
              - i think he's got a good sense of humor.  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:05 AM   #58 
        - you've got nothing.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-11-10 10:23 PM   #28 
        - heh  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:24 PM   #29 
        - Deep and true. nt  Enthusiast   Mar-12-10 04:32 AM   #46 
     - you corporowhore bankster kubuki theaterist you! did i get all the annoying catch phrases?  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:05 AM   #57 
        - Pseudo-revolutionary catch phrases are bourgeois  boppers   Mar-13-10 11:54 PM   #81 
     - It means that whoever's using it has no appreciation of history.  nemo137   Mar-11-10 11:16 PM   #37 
     - A corporatist votes  Enthusiast   Mar-12-10 04:31 AM   #45 
     - Kucinich voted against his constituents.  mr715   Mar-12-10 07:13 AM   #50 
        - That is quite a stretch.  Enthusiast   Mar-12-10 07:31 AM   #53 
           - he is a reliable "no" vote on everything. how helpful.  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:07 AM   #59 
     - I don't know but I know it's  CTLawGuy   Mar-12-10 06:06 AM   #49 
  - Kucinich is nothing more than an ineffective gadfly  Cali_Democrat   Mar-11-10 09:25 PM   #9 
  - The bill to improve the nation's infrastructure would help people...  slipslidingaway   Mar-11-10 09:44 PM   #12 
  - Dupe  Sebastian Doyle   Mar-11-10 09:42 PM   #11 
  - And they'll be back :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Mar-11-10 09:45 PM   #13 
  - The Obama bashing threads have taken over since he was inaugurated. n/t  Cali_Democrat   Mar-11-10 09:55 PM   #18 
     - LOL who is the leader??? And there are many threads that  slipslidingaway   Mar-11-10 10:05 PM   #25 
        - oh, so the obama bashing threads are okay because he's the leader? that's a new one.  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:09 AM   #60 
           - No but threads critical of Obama are to be expected after the election since  slipslidingaway   Mar-12-10 02:58 PM   #67 
              - Criticizing is one thing. But it goes far beyond that here. And Skinner made it clear:  JTFrog   Mar-15-10 07:21 AM   #86 
  - Good! I'm glad someone is calling him out  Cha   Mar-11-10 09:47 PM   #14 
  - That is just bullshit and if anyone actually listened to what he said  slipslidingaway   Mar-11-10 10:01 PM   #20 
  - Dennis has never voted "with Republicans"  jeanpalmer   Mar-12-10 02:49 AM   #43 
  - pssst, when he votes "no" on everything and the republicans vote "no" on everything,  dionysus   Mar-12-10 08:10 AM   #61 
  - Markos Moulitsas is dead to me. nt  Enthusiast   Mar-12-10 04:36 AM   #47 
  - you're a bit late  ibegurpard   Mar-11-10 09:53 PM   #16 
  - Right on time, wyldwolf.  Cha   Mar-11-10 10:04 PM   #22 
  - LEAVE DENNIS ALONE!  SoxFan   Mar-11-10 10:17 PM   #27 
     - ..  Cha   Mar-11-10 10:40 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-10 10:05 PM   #23 
  - I think everyone on DU needs to get over Kucinich and move on. Do we even need his vote to pass HCR?  Jennicut   Mar-11-10 10:15 PM   #26 
  - Maybe that dipshit Moulitsas should expand his horizons to see WHY  flvegan   Mar-11-10 10:36 PM   #30 
  - What flvegan Said  Dinger   Mar-11-10 10:39 PM   #31 
  - It is simple.  mr715   Mar-11-10 10:47 PM   #34 
  - Unlike the Clinton impeachment  Enthusiast   Mar-12-10 04:40 AM   #48 
  - Show me any evidence where Kucinich has been successful as a legislator  zulchzulu   Mar-11-10 10:57 PM   #36 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-12-10 12:40 AM   #40 
     - Okay, name him or her.  flvegan   Mar-12-10 01:04 AM   #41 
  - Kucinich is on record wanting to ban all handguns in the US... imagine Democrats following that...  zulchzulu   Mar-11-10 10:42 PM   #33 
  - Department of Peace  mr715   Mar-11-10 10:49 PM   #35 
  - Some of us think that his work passing legislation on the Ukranian Museum was worth  grantcart   Mar-12-10 12:08 AM   #38 
  - You better watch out with the having sex with the Monrovians.  cliffordu   Mar-12-10 12:23 AM   #39 
  - Fuck alienation.  Cha   Mar-12-10 01:41 PM   #66 
  - One Dem stands on principle and the left base trashes him.  Grand Taurean   Mar-12-10 01:05 AM   #42 
  - One dem? uh no  cali   Mar-12-10 03:58 AM   #44 
  - This isn't the left base that is trashing him.  freddie mertz   Mar-12-10 07:14 AM   #51 
  - If there's only one Dem who stands on principal  HughMoran   Mar-12-10 07:29 AM   #52 
  - The left is not trashing here. Our DU right is loading the pig pile.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-12-10 10:39 AM   #64 
  - If that makes Kucininch a bad congressman  austin78704   Mar-12-10 07:32 AM   #54 
  - Look at his SPEECHES?  mr715   Mar-12-10 12:34 PM   #65 
  - But he's right.  austin78704   Mar-13-10 06:58 AM   #68 
     - He was wrong about abortion.  mr715   Mar-13-10 02:01 PM   #71 
        - You and I see things differently  austin78704   Mar-13-10 07:24 PM   #72 
           - Here is my problem with Kucinich  mr715   Mar-13-10 10:18 PM   #75 
           - Bingo!  goclark   Mar-13-10 10:49 PM   #76 
           - Let me also add,  mr715   Mar-13-10 11:23 PM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-13-10 07:56 PM   #73 
  - The beatings will continue until morale improves.  Forkboy   Mar-12-10 10:10 AM   #62 
  - Ok, so now principles are now a bad thing...  niceypoo   Mar-12-10 10:31 AM   #63 
  - 2008 Representative Kucinich supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 95%  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-13-10 08:43 AM   #69 
  - pardon me, but a list of individual votes on bills doesn't mean anything when there's tons of dems  dionysus   Mar-13-10 10:50 PM   #77 
     - it does show that this nonsense about not voting with the Democrats or never being pragmatic is  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-13-10 11:06 PM   #78 
  - Kucinich's intentions are good, but his uncompromising positions are STUPID !  RBInMaine   Mar-13-10 08:46 AM   #70 
  - Yes and bills Kucinich has not sponsored such as funding  harkadog   Mar-13-10 11:44 PM   #80 
  - Give me a million dollars.  mr715   Mar-13-10 11:58 PM   #82 
  - Kick  Cha   Mar-14-10 02:57 PM   #83 
  - Kick!  freddie mertz   Mar-14-10 04:22 PM   #85 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-15-10 11:06 AM   #87 
  - I imagine that a man who...  LanternWaste   Mar-15-10 11:55 AM   #88 

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