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Thu Mar-11-10 03:57 PM
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| 9. "People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, |
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and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."
"People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference."
And I guess that's what we did. We were so thirsty for meaningful change - change that would make our lives and our country better that we didn't listen closely enough. We didn't realize that "bipartisanship" meant more to Obama than actually doing anything.
Now we know to pay attention.
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| -From his very first national speech at the 2004 DNC. Obama signaled post-partisanship |
Perky |
Mar-11-10 03:43 PM |
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too bad the GOP isn't post-partisan |
maxsolomon |
Mar-11-10 03:45 PM |
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ain't that the truth. |
Perky |
Mar-11-10 03:46 PM |
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post-partisanship takes at least 2 parties, which, face it, we ain't got. |
elehhhhna |
Mar-11-10 03:54 PM |
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That was the exact problem. The American people wanted it but the GOP said no way. |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-11-10 04:00 PM |
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How can there be bi-partisan solutions for issues about which voters are divided and polarized? IMO |
jody |
Mar-11-10 03:49 PM |
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I think Obama may have overt hought his ability to transcend those lines |
Perky |
Mar-11-10 03:52 PM |
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Perhaps but it will require the magical powers of the Blue Wizard. |
jody |
Mar-11-10 03:57 PM |
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Sen. Carl Shurz was amazing!!! |
verges |
Mar-12-10 08:23 AM |
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Note my sig line is a paraphrase as I clearly stated "a la Sen. Carl Schurz, 1872" but you knew that |
jody |
Mar-12-10 09:04 AM |
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When only 1 person is "postpartisan" but the other party isn't there is no post partisanship. |
craigmatic |
Mar-11-10 03:53 PM |
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There is no such thing as post-partisanship |
wryter2000 |
Mar-11-10 03:55 PM |
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"People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, |
dflprincess |
Mar-11-10 03:57 PM |
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Not me, I can think for myself, thank you |
treestar |
Mar-11-10 09:56 PM |
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"post-partisanship" is made up nonsense. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-11-10 03:58 PM |
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See below. |
jody |
Mar-11-10 04:01 PM |
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Absolutely. It started as political rhetoric to get elected...and it works |
Oregone |
Mar-11-10 04:15 PM |
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Okay, then he was a fool even back in 2004 |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-11-10 04:03 PM |
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And we were larger fools to vote for him? |
Perky |
Mar-11-10 04:07 PM |
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As you wish |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-11-10 04:20 PM |
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But the corollary is important. |
Perky |
Mar-11-10 04:46 PM |
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You are selling Obama short |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-12-10 08:09 AM |
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Sure were. But there was only really Johnny Smiles, Clinton Redux, and Ol Man McCain |
Oregone |
Mar-11-10 04:20 PM |
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Turned out it meant putting big money interests before the good the of the people. |
freddie mertz |
Mar-11-10 04:09 PM |
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Oh, so it's voters' fault for falling for his false 2008 campaign promises. |
katandmoon |
Mar-11-10 04:10 PM |
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When the other side is the party of no, then you move ahead with what you got. |
glowing |
Mar-11-10 04:13 PM |
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I agree |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Mar-11-10 04:13 PM |
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I really don't get why we need to be so defensive all the time |
impik |
Mar-11-10 04:22 PM |
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How silly of us to have voted for him |
dflprincess |
Mar-11-10 09:43 PM |
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That's exactly it - the bullshit loyalist double-bind. |
Smashcut |
Mar-11-10 10:15 PM |
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It's silly of you to make up your own fantasy about the man |
impik |
Mar-12-10 01:42 AM |
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I haven't made up anything about him as I was not all that impressed when he was a candidate |
dflprincess |
Mar-12-10 12:31 PM |
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I knew who I was voting for with Obama, but really unhappy about what that meant |
unc70 |
Mar-12-10 10:41 AM |
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I agree |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 09:51 PM |
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A lot of us voted against McCain/Palin |
dflprincess |
Mar-11-10 10:52 PM |
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I said the same thing. |
Grand Taurean |
Mar-12-10 01:09 AM |
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One of his very first votes was to support Bush, Congressional Republicans & the Chamber of Commerce |
depakid |
Mar-11-10 10:02 PM |
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okay, okay, we got it, we never should have voted for him |
ima_sinnic |
Mar-11-10 10:09 PM |
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too bad "post-partisanship" is a FICTIONAL CONCEPT |
Smashcut |
Mar-11-10 10:10 PM |
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when republicans say bipartisanship is date rape... |
RainDog |
Mar-11-10 11:05 PM |
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I am not sure anyone is saying post-partisianship exists |
Perky |
Mar-12-10 07:21 AM |
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George Bush had the worst approval ratings of any president |
RainDog |
Mar-12-10 09:23 AM |
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You said exactly that yourself |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-12-10 09:25 AM |
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My argument is not that Post-partisanship existed... only that in his writing and rhetoric that |
Perky |
Mar-12-10 10:45 AM |
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"Undoubtedly, some of these views will get me in trouble." |
Clio the Leo |
Mar-11-10 11:09 PM |
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100 Obamas would not equal 1/2 of FDR. |
Grand Taurean |
Mar-12-10 01:09 AM |
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post-partisanship is morphing into crony corporatism which leaves "the working people" in the lurch. |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-12-10 08:17 AM |
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"Post-partisanship" is not the same thing as sucking up to sociopaths... |
polichick |
Mar-12-10 08:25 AM |
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At this point does anyone really think this guy is a liberal? |
VMI Dem |
Mar-12-10 08:37 AM |
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I'm a realist. And this post-partisan nonsense is just that. Nonsense. |
Raineyb |
Mar-12-10 08:43 AM |
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What a crock. He ran as a Partisan Democrat |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-12-10 09:05 AM |
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I don't think you serously listsed to the 2004 speech or read "Audacity" |
Perky |
Mar-12-10 10:40 AM |
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That's EXACTLY Professor Lakoff's point... |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-12-10 10:45 AM |
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The overriding theme of his campaign was "hope" and "change" not post-partisanship. |
hulka38 |
Mar-12-10 01:38 PM |
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