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Thu Mar-11-10 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 45. That about sums it up. |
| -The facts about Obama's health care plan |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:29 PM |
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You missed out the universal mandates and fines |
Cronus Protagonist |
Mar-11-10 01:31 PM |
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So, what's your point? You can't have reform without mandates and |
impik |
Mar-11-10 01:35 PM |
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Yes, you can |
Cronus Protagonist |
Mar-11-10 01:37 PM |
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you don't understand how risk pools work, do you? |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 02:19 PM |
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Yeah, we do. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-11-10 02:38 PM |
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single payer would be the best choice, unfortunately we'd need to replace more than half the caucus |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 03:41 PM |
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I understand that |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-11-10 03:48 PM |
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well it's destined to fail if the risk pool is all people in poor health. thats my concern. |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 04:02 PM |
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86% of Americans have coverage now. Are they all in poor health? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-11-10 04:11 PM |
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i am hoping the regulations in the bill saying that x% of premium $ must be spent on care will |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 04:20 PM |
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85% MLR seems reasonable to me. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-11-10 04:26 PM |
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agreed |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 05:47 PM |
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Do you? |
Oregone |
Mar-11-10 02:41 PM |
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We most certainly do and you are full of sh*t. |
harun |
Mar-11-10 03:28 PM |
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Yes, it can be done without mandates |
DJ13 |
Mar-11-10 02:13 PM |
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Do you have a problem with food stamps too? |
bornskeptic |
Mar-11-10 05:00 PM |
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At least the Grocery Store provides something for the dollars. |
bvar22 |
Mar-11-10 05:28 PM |
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Without the mandates none of this can happen. |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:37 PM |
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Cool. I hope you have a job for me so I can earn the extra cash |
Cronus Protagonist |
Mar-11-10 01:38 PM |
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The fine is so small that you most likely will not buy health insurance. |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:43 PM |
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Sounds like that communication didn't land in your universe |
Cronus Protagonist |
Mar-11-10 01:45 PM |
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What will you do if you need serious medical care in the future. |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:54 PM |
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Yep the "families" will get most of the subsidies. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-11-10 02:41 PM |
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So then whats the difference? |
Egnever |
Mar-11-10 03:07 PM |
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What good is a tax credit a year after you need the money? nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-11-10 02:57 PM |
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The idea of the government fining you for not purchasing something |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-11-10 02:55 PM |
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Sure it does |
Egnever |
Mar-11-10 03:09 PM |
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Thanks for the facts, county worker. nt |
Cha |
Mar-11-10 01:31 PM |
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Can't imagine any sane person would choose this over a Public Option or Medicare for All.... |
denimgirly |
Mar-11-10 01:32 PM |
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But today you don't have that choice. |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:38 PM |
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Obvious, simple AND NOT ACHIEVABLE IN CONGRESS!!!!!! |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:15 PM |
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thinking isnt their strong suit |
dionysus |
Mar-11-10 02:20 PM |
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Pushing the propaganda is, however. |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:22 PM |
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OK, so |
Turbineguy |
Mar-11-10 01:32 PM |
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Those are SOME facts, but they are not THE facts which implys an offering |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 01:33 PM |
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Bingo. There's a lot of bad. And Simple powerful solutions are purposely Avoided. |
denimgirly |
Mar-11-10 01:38 PM |
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That's true. The most obvious answer to me is single payer next is a |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:58 PM |
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Only a novice would look to the price of any given sector on any day & think it meant something |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:17 PM |
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So you would prefer that we keep things as they are because that is the only other alternative at |
county worker |
Mar-11-10 01:40 PM |
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After weeks now of consideration, if there is no PO or Medicare |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 02:01 PM |
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After watching Ed last night, you kind of have to be in favor of manslaughter |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:20 PM |
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Yeah, right, most of it doesn't take effect for years. My response explained my reasoning. |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 02:23 PM |
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Yeah, because it takes a while to implement - waiting another generation BEFORE EVEN STARTING AGAIN |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:29 PM |
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I believe I've recently heard Grayson and Kuncinich suggest that |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 02:33 PM |
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I don't care if they can be implemented quickly, I CARE IF THEY CAN PASS CONGRESS!!! |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 02:41 PM |
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Not just for me, but for the country. It isn't as personal as you'd like to make it. |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 02:57 PM |
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Aww geez, "It isn't personal", but it is about "folks like me" |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 03:03 PM |
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Then demand a better bill for everyone RIGHT NOW! Instead of taking your cake |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 03:04 PM |
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OK, now you've lost me |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 03:08 PM |
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You read a lot into others' responses and try to make them personal |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 03:32 PM |
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yeah, uh, ok bud |
HughMoran |
Mar-11-10 03:35 PM |
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have you emailed your rep and senator to tell them you will vote them out |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-11-10 03:06 PM |
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I agree with your concept, but the thing is |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 03:40 PM |
#49 |
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Then why bother voting at all? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-12-10 09:54 AM |
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You left out some facts....... |
SandWalker1984 |
Mar-11-10 02:10 PM |
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"It may actually cause many Americans to lose their current health insurance." |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-12-10 06:35 PM |
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"It may reduce many seniors' access ... |
Bryn |
Mar-12-10 07:10 PM |
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Indeed, change I can beleive in......nt |
Change Happens |
Mar-11-10 03:08 PM |
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You forgot the part where if you have an insurance plan and you don't like it |
Raineyb |
Mar-11-10 03:09 PM |
#42 |
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That about sums it up. |
harun |
Mar-11-10 03:29 PM |
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+++++ More good points! |
Better Today |
Mar-11-10 03:34 PM |
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So your alternative is? |
BlueIdaho |
Mar-11-10 03:43 PM |
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They dithered for a year and I'm supposed to give a shit about them being scared to do what's right |
Raineyb |
Mar-12-10 05:16 PM |
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The question is whether its going to be better or worse than status quo. |
Cleobulus |
Mar-12-10 06:24 PM |
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This is a dishonest characterization of the plan. |
freddie mertz |
Mar-11-10 03:54 PM |
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Are you aware the Obama didn't write the bill? |
GeorgeGist |
Mar-11-10 05:45 PM |
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Corrections of your "facts". |
Cleobulus |
Mar-12-10 06:33 PM |
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