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Fri Nov-27-09 10:01 PM
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| 6. He made a colossal error with Operation Cyclone |
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But the current DU ignores this in favor of Carter worship, so he would probably pass off fine here.
Its not simply a mistake...its a stain on his entire presidency that gets blacker with each passing year
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| -How would DU have treated Jimmy Carter ? |
Progressivism |
Nov-27-09 09:54 PM |
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Hmmm... good question. Jimmy Carter was crucified by the GOP and the media.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-27-09 09:57 PM |
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Sounds familiar..and look what it got us |
Cha |
Nov-27-09 10:20 PM |
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Exactly! nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-27-09 10:22 PM |
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Very badly, I would guess. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Nov-27-09 09:59 PM |
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Jimmy Carter is a good man |
AllentownJake |
Nov-27-09 09:59 PM |
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Agree. Probably the most honest man to sit in the oval office |
Thothmes |
Nov-28-09 07:46 PM |
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He was the last decent man to be President (present President excluded) |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:24 PM |
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Very badly, I suspect. Carter was a Southerner and a Baptist. |
QC |
Nov-27-09 09:59 PM |
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+1 nt |
onehandle |
Nov-28-09 02:44 AM |
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self-delete. posted in wrong spot. nt |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-29-09 07:26 AM |
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As opposed to a New Englander and a Catholic? |
karynnj |
Dec-01-09 06:05 PM |
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yes, but his mom was progressive.. |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:16 PM |
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+2 |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:38 PM |
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Carter is a Magnificent Person |
MannyGoldstein |
Nov-27-09 10:00 PM |
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He made a colossal error with Operation Cyclone |
Oregone |
Nov-27-09 10:01 PM |
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A drop in the bucket compared to all of the horrible things that Reagan did |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-28-09 12:07 AM |
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Yes, Reagan was a dick |
Oregone |
Nov-28-09 01:17 AM |
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Yea but here's my point |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-28-09 02:37 AM |
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"Having a Democratic President back down from a conflict" |
Oregone |
Nov-28-09 03:20 AM |
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A perfectly reasonable interpretation |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-28-09 03:49 AM |
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Except the operation I'm referring to was initiated prior to Soviet involvement, to incite it |
Oregone |
Nov-28-09 04:29 AM |
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I'm aware of the history, but again you're not seeing my point |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-28-09 01:27 PM |
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thank you for this post |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:42 PM |
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Yes, much worse than Reagan fixing deals with Iran while our hostages were in peril. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-28-09 12:12 AM |
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Carter supported the Shah when it was no longer prudent to do so. |
martymar64 |
Nov-28-09 01:39 PM |
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Jimmy Carter would have been roasted here. |
Kaleva |
Nov-27-09 10:09 PM |
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I thought Kennedy's entry into the Primary was the beginning of the disaster. |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-27-09 10:10 PM |
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Much as I loved Ted Kennedy (and his brothers Jack & Bobby), |
BlueMTexpat |
Nov-28-09 04:31 AM |
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That was a dynamite post. |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-28-09 10:19 AM |
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I feel the same way. |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:36 PM |
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thanks for the info.. |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:31 PM |
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We didn't even know one dangerous legacy - The Carter doctrine |
karynnj |
Dec-01-09 06:07 PM |
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People forget that he governed as a DLC Democrat would have governed today |
bluestateguy |
Nov-27-09 10:11 PM |
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No, Jimmy Carter was not DLC. He asked for national sacrifice and conservation of energy. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-28-09 12:19 AM |
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So? |
bluestateguy |
Nov-28-09 12:38 AM |
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No the DLC only asks for sacrifices from the LABOR force not their Masters of Corporation USA. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-28-09 01:06 AM |
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Airline Deregulation Was One Of Senator Kennedy's Major Accomplishments |
mikekohr |
Nov-28-09 10:31 AM |
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Utter nonsense. He was considered right of center for things like zero based budgeting |
HamdenRice |
Nov-28-09 05:28 AM |
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He predated the DLC, but it was his wing of the party Southern Conservative Democarts who became the |
karynnj |
Dec-01-09 06:10 PM |
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The DLC'ers who treat him badly now probably would have done the same then. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-27-09 10:44 PM |
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If he would have scratched his ass with the wrong hand, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-27-09 10:54 PM |
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I think Clinton WAS impeached. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-01-09 06:20 PM |
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Half would have loved everything he did and the other |
PM Martin |
Nov-27-09 11:42 PM |
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You got two halves... that's 50%... isn't that a balance? |
boppers |
Nov-28-09 12:06 AM |
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The pro-Israel DUers would have accused Carter of being an anti-Semite |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-28-09 12:14 AM |
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"Treated?" That's a very personal way to put it. Isn't it about policy? |
David__77 |
Nov-28-09 12:17 AM |
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When people start attacking Michelle's dress in the GDP section--it's rarely about policy. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-28-09 02:58 AM |
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+1 |
noamnety |
Nov-28-09 11:37 AM |
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It means that we are being chastised for criticizing Barack Obama |
tavalon |
Nov-29-09 02:14 AM |
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I think he would have been crucified here. There were plenty |
quiller4 |
Nov-28-09 01:34 AM |
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He'd be criticized constantly for not giving members of congress the "Johnson treatment" |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-28-09 02:41 AM |
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+ Infinity. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-29-09 06:22 AM |
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my failure to solidly back Jimmy Carter in 1980 was the stupidest political mistake |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-28-09 02:55 AM |
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I don't think it would have mattered, to be honest |
girl_interrupted |
Nov-28-09 03:20 AM |
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Carters Debate Notes Getting Stolen By the Reagan Camp |
hollowdweller |
Dec-01-09 07:02 PM |
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We have a loud section of DU walking right back into that scenario now. |
JTFrog |
Nov-28-09 06:05 AM |
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Like a decent man who was too ethical for the job. |
DailyGrind51 |
Nov-28-09 07:22 AM |
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Better than the rest of the country, by a huge margin. nt |
Umbral |
Nov-28-09 09:50 AM |
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I would have had Carter's back |
ensho |
Nov-28-09 09:59 AM |
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It would have been the same, and with Bill Clinton too |
treestar |
Nov-28-09 10:04 AM |
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I'd support Teddy. |
JVS |
Nov-28-09 10:09 AM |
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Carter, beloved and respected here now, would have been spat upon by many DUers then... |
Hekate |
Nov-28-09 11:02 AM |
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That's because he is a hell of a lot more progressive EX-president than he was... |
mitchum |
Nov-28-09 01:49 PM |
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Oddly, Carter is who he always was: a deeply moral man who lives by his Christian principles... |
Hekate |
Nov-28-09 02:33 PM |
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answer: it depends.... |
mike_c |
Nov-28-09 11:13 AM |
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I would have despised him for his rightward leanings and for dragging that Jesus bullshit... |
mitchum |
Nov-28-09 01:10 PM |
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Jimmy Carter was the only President I have touched |
thelordofhell |
Nov-28-09 02:52 PM |
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He would have been treated harshly |
tavalon |
Nov-29-09 02:10 AM |
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He'd roast on a spit over a steady fire |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-29-09 07:13 AM |
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yeah he would have been criticized but who cares? this sacred |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-29-09 07:30 AM |
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does anything NOT piss you off? seriously dude EVERYTHING sets you off! |
dionysus |
Dec-01-09 02:37 PM |
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75% of us would have supported him, 25% would have treated him like shit |
Aramchek |
Nov-29-09 10:25 AM |
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They would have called him "Nixon II." nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-29-09 11:31 AM |
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Who and why ? |
Progressivism |
Dec-01-09 01:22 PM |
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He would be villified like any other Democrat who achieves power |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-01-09 02:59 PM |
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He would be called the worst President EVAH!!!11! |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Dec-01-09 03:02 PM |
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I supported him at the time. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-01-09 03:04 PM |
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horribly. |
WI_DEM |
Dec-01-09 03:46 PM |
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I think we would have been Jerry Brown, Teddy Kennedy people |
mdmc |
Dec-01-09 06:14 PM |
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Same as any president-- complained about some policies and criticized others. |
Overseas |
Dec-01-09 06:41 PM |
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Well |
hollowdweller |
Dec-01-09 06:53 PM |
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roasted and served with relish. |
mopinko |
Dec-01-09 08:14 PM |
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