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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:35 AM
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84. Ed's wrong on this. These "well meaning folks" are the Corporations' *useful idiots.*
No more "sucking it up" Big Ed. :thumbsdown:

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  -Ed Schultz: I've caved, we've gotta suck it up and pass the Senate bill in the House HughMoran  Mar-10-10 05:07 PM   #0 
  - No shit Ed, no shit...  BlueIdaho   Mar-10-10 05:08 PM   #1 
  - I'll give Ed his due --  Hell Hath No Fury   Mar-10-10 05:09 PM   #2 
  - He came right out and said it  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 05:10 PM   #3 
     - It took a lot of guts to say that ~ K for ED  goclark   Mar-10-10 05:11 PM   #6 
  - Big Ed tells it like it is...  kjackson227   Mar-10-10 05:10 PM   #4 
  - The woman whose son died because he couldn't afford a colonoscopy  njlib   Mar-10-10 05:14 PM   #10 
     - "Greatest health care system in the world...."  mzmolly   Mar-10-10 05:25 PM   #36 
        - Those who can afford it. n/t  njlib   Mar-10-10 07:31 PM   #67 
           - And that won't change with this bill. n/t  Raineyb   Mar-10-10 09:12 PM   #75 
           - Yes it will.  mzmolly   Mar-10-10 09:54 PM   #76 
              - 20m people left out. Mike moore and rachel were talking about it.  roguevalley   Mar-10-10 11:42 PM   #78 
              - Yes, 50M - 30M = 20M  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 11:44 PM   #79 
              - the bill is so bad that it won't cover 20m people and the horror  roguevalley   Mar-11-10 01:36 AM   #81 
                 - Your pessimism is noted  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 07:56 AM   #92 
              - That figure is based upon the fact that some will refuse  mzmolly   Mar-11-10 12:53 PM   #125 
              - No it won't. We have about 50 million without health insurance. Everyone pushing  Raineyb   Mar-11-10 02:56 AM   #87 
                 - The figure you note is based on the assumption that some will not  mzmolly   Mar-11-10 12:52 PM   #124 
           - Indeed.  mzmolly   Mar-11-10 01:09 PM   #131 
  - I'm surprised he didn't get before. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:11 PM   #5 
  - Under the bus with you Ed  Uzybone   Mar-10-10 05:12 PM   #7 
  - ROFL. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:14 PM   #9 
  - too many people under the bus, it'll have to drive around  CreekDog   Mar-10-10 05:17 PM   #18 
  - LOL!  tallahasseedem   Mar-10-10 07:48 PM   #68 
  - Watch out for the bus, Ed.  Cha   Mar-10-10 05:13 PM   #8 
  - OMG - he's pushing people to call Kuch and push him to sign this bill!!  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 05:14 PM   #11 
  - Wow! that is huge!  Raine1967   Mar-10-10 05:16 PM   #15 
  - Yes he is. Go Ed!  mzmolly   Mar-10-10 05:20 PM   #30 
  - He may think he caved... I disagree.  Raine1967   Mar-10-10 05:14 PM   #12 
  - Uh-oh, he's going OFF!!!!!!!!!!  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 05:16 PM   #13 
  - You are giving me goosebumps!  Raine1967   Mar-10-10 05:17 PM   #19 
  - He's moved on, but it was one righteous rant!!  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #24 
  - He looked close to crying. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #26 
  - Agree. He said he THINKS Teddy K would have passed this. He says these  gateley   Mar-10-10 05:19 PM   #28 
  - How much power does Ed think liberal bloggers have? eom  Hello_Kitty   Mar-10-10 05:16 PM   #14 
  - Impressive statement from Big Ed right now.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:16 PM   #16 
  - PASS THE DAMNED (yes, he said damned) BILL!!!!!!!!!  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 05:16 PM   #17 
  - Oh man...  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:17 PM   #21 
  - Thanks Ed!  O is 44   Mar-10-10 05:17 PM   #20 
  - Feeling lonely yet Jane?  tridim   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #22 
  - Jane and Dennis sittin in a tree....  mzmolly   Mar-10-10 05:23 PM   #33 
  - WOW! Ed's upset today. He said, and I quote "PASS THE DAMNED BILL...  kjackson227   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #23 
  - Glad he admitted it. n/t  pleah   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #25 
  - It would be monumentally stupid  customerserviceguy   Mar-10-10 05:18 PM   #27 
  - If I were a Repuke, there's nothing I would rather see than the Democrats' idiotic in-fighting.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:23 PM   #34 
     - If you don't get this done correctly  customerserviceguy   Mar-10-10 05:31 PM   #46 
        - True that.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:37 PM   #55 
  - Incredible show. I'm so glad he's showing how the "greatest health care system on earth" fails  mzmolly   Mar-10-10 05:20 PM   #29 
  - If the Democratic Party can't show some effectivenes,  tekisui   Mar-10-10 05:21 PM   #31 
  - We can still get a public option. We cannot give up, just like Dean said.  DevonRex   Mar-10-10 05:31 PM   #45 
  - They painted themselves into a corner  GreenArrow   Mar-10-10 05:32 PM   #50 
  - that 60 votes we thought we have wasn't really 60. not even close.  dionysus   Mar-10-10 08:55 PM   #73 
  - The piece of shit Senate Bill that they are about to pass will make Obama a one term  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 02:42 AM   #86 
  - I have been posting my brothers story in here since August... Thank You Ed...  Peacetrain   Mar-10-10 05:22 PM   #32 
  - It's gonna get done, Peacetrain. Just hold on a little longer :(  kjackson227   Mar-10-10 05:29 PM   #42 
     - I really believe it will get done.. more right now than ever  Peacetrain   Mar-10-10 05:32 PM   #48 
  - Kudos to him!  Spazito   Mar-10-10 05:24 PM   #35 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-10 05:26 PM   #37 
  - Go ahead. Keep laughing...  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:27 PM   #38 
  - Progress?  girl gone mad   Mar-10-10 05:29 PM   #41 
  - I read the comments and I don't know what you're talking about.  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:32 PM   #49 
  - When people change their postions  O is 44   Mar-10-10 05:33 PM   #51 
  - Just called the Kucinich office and the guy said he would make sure Kucinich  Maraya1969   Mar-10-10 05:28 PM   #39 
  - By serving you up on a platter to the insurance industry.  girl gone mad   Mar-10-10 05:30 PM   # 
  - You obviously didn't see Ed Schultz today or you wouldn't be so snide  Maraya1969   Mar-10-10 05:57 PM   #63 
  - Thanks.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-10 05:36 PM   #54 
  - Is he under the bus now, too? Pretty soon it'll just be the blue dogs left standing.  DevonRex   Mar-10-10 05:29 PM   #40 
  - Howard Dean's coming up next. Watch it here...  kjackson227   Mar-10-10 05:30 PM   #43 
  - I'm not in the mood to listen to Dean. In and out, in and out. He exhausts me. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:30 PM   #44 
  - I hear ya, but I have to give him  O is 44   Mar-10-10 05:37 PM   #56 
     - Totally. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:46 PM   #59 
  - He's a goddamn Howard Dean ConservaDem!  Schema Thing   Mar-10-10 05:32 PM   #47 
  - The road to hell is based on good intentions and "trust."  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 02:37 AM   #85 
  - bookmarking for future reference.  Lerkfish   Mar-10-10 05:34 PM   #52 
  - Dean is going to be thrown under the bus...  tallahasseedem   Mar-10-10 05:35 PM   #53 
  - What did Dean say?  Cali_Democrat   Mar-10-10 05:49 PM   #60 
     - Essentially...  tallahasseedem   Mar-10-10 05:58 PM   #64 
  - There are SO many people under the Bus...  Raine1967   Mar-10-10 05:42 PM   #57 
  - There is no bus...with so many people it was over turned. n/t  vaberella   Mar-10-10 05:45 PM   #58 
     - They're now carrying around the bus.  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 11:38 PM   #77 
  - Good admission.  burning rain   Mar-10-10 05:50 PM   #61 
  - I don't understand something....  Oregone   Mar-10-10 05:56 PM   #62 
  - It is much easier to write and pass bills that are small. Which are the ones  Maraya1969   Mar-10-10 06:13 PM   #65 
  - OH, is that a promise. Then where do I send my money to help?  Oregone   Mar-10-10 06:18 PM   #66 
  - Boy, That's A Mouthful!  Dinger   Mar-10-10 08:11 PM   #71 
  - About f'king time..  DCBob   Mar-10-10 07:51 PM   #69 
  - yeah  HughMoran   Mar-10-10 08:09 PM   #70 
  - I never get to watch Ed...he doesn't podcast his show.  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-10-10 08:17 PM   #72 
  - About time Ed!!  Clio the Leo   Mar-10-10 09:02 PM   #74 
  - a mad rush  jeanpalmer   Mar-11-10 12:43 AM   #80 
  - Just for the "optics" -- just to get a "win" -- plus, we know that reconciliation is a mirage --  smalll   Mar-11-10 01:45 AM   #82 
  - Who can doubt it? I do.  JeffR   Mar-11-10 02:30 AM   #83 
  - Have you read the thread about "self-execution" here  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:08 AM   #95 
  - Ed's wrong on this. These "well meaning folks" are the Corporations' *useful idiots.*  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 02:35 AM   #84 
  - He realizes Obama is nothing without this bill.  dkf   Mar-11-10 06:53 AM   #88 
  - There's absolutely NOTHING LIBERAL about this shitty Senate Bill that equates to a heist  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 06:57 AM   #89 
     - Looks like a republican bill to me too.  dkf   Mar-11-10 07:31 AM   #91 
        - Gonna save my ass and millions of other people  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:04 AM   #94 
           - I want better for my fellow Americans and eventually me.  dkf   Mar-11-10 08:17 AM   #99 
           - We all want 'better', but better is relative. This bill fixes 80% of issues that KILL people  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:20 AM   #101 
              - BETTER is not defined as "sucking the financial life out of the working classes." eom  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 08:21 AM   #103 
              - Why settle for this half assed measure that keeps private assholes in charge of your medical future  dkf   Mar-11-10 08:23 AM   #105 
                 - You're obviously playing the "I'm going to pretend to be oblivious" card  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:30 AM   #108 
                    - Better than crap you mean?  dkf   Mar-11-10 08:37 AM   #110 
                       - Sorry you didn't get the perfect and immediate system YOU require  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:43 AM   #112 
                          - I do realize something.  dkf   Mar-11-10 11:18 AM   #119 
                             - That's your negative viewpoint  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 12:34 PM   #120 
                                - Well when we get a mandate we will see how many pissed off people we have.  dkf   Mar-12-10 01:43 PM   #133 
           - Unless you're part of the filthy rich or abject poor, it won't save your ass ...  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 08:18 AM   #100 
           - ShortnFiery (angry?) - it's going to save me $21,000/year!  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 08:25 AM   #106 
  - Integrity is hard to find knr/nt  wroberts189   Mar-11-10 07:18 AM   #90 
  - He finally realized that Obama didn't have his back  depakid   Mar-11-10 07:56 AM   #93 
  - ...that doesn't make sense. If that's the case, wouldn't he be AGAINST the bill?  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-11-10 08:12 AM   #96 
     - Ed's been one of the biggest voices in the media in support of responsible health care reform  depakid   Mar-11-10 08:23 AM   #104 
        - Again, if that is the case, WHY is he supporting the bill now?  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-11-10 08:26 AM   #107 
           - He's basically given up- that's what happens to some when the leadership lets them down  depakid   Mar-11-10 08:33 AM   #109 
  - Looks like the NAYSAYER BUG has infected the thread...  kjackson227   Mar-11-10 08:12 AM   #97 
  - But you fail to deal with affordability and all but fail to regulate  TheKentuckian   Mar-11-10 02:16 PM   #132 
  - I like Ed, but Ed is wrong on this one.  NorthCarolina   Mar-11-10 08:15 AM   #98 
  - Exactly. And we can't pass the Senate Bill and HOPE based on PROMISES that any alteration will  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-10 08:20 AM   #102 
     - It is obvious thahe best interest of the public was never a factor in health care negotiations.  NorthCarolina   Mar-11-10 08:41 AM   #111 
  - Seems to be Big Ed has been given his marching orders from his higher ups  Bullet1987   Mar-11-10 09:18 AM   #113 
  - If you read what KO wrote a couple days ago, you'd realize how utterly ridiculous that statement is  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 10:12 AM   #114 
     - Let's see it happen then...  Bullet1987   Mar-11-10 12:47 PM   #122 
        - He, unlike you, knows that this bill will stop killing people like the family he had on his show  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 12:52 PM   #123 
           - I care so much about people dying...THAT I WANT EVERYONE COVERED!!!  Bullet1987   Mar-11-10 12:54 PM   #126 
              - Ummmm, so you are for the bill.  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 12:55 PM   #128 
                 - I would be if it covered everyone without mandates to force them to buy insurance  Bullet1987   Mar-11-10 01:07 PM   #130 
  - D'oh!  graywarrior   Mar-11-10 10:31 AM   #115 
  - I need something. Anything.  leftygolfer   Mar-11-10 10:42 AM   #116 
  - Af f@#$ing last. Sometimes Ed just lets his hysteria go overboard the way Fox does!  felinetta   Mar-11-10 10:44 AM   #117 
  - I usually don't mind him pushing hard for the little guy  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 11:04 AM   #118 
  - Yes We Cave! Yes We Cave!  asdjrocky   Mar-11-10 12:38 PM   #121 
  - & some are man enough to 1) admit when they are wrong and 2) admit this will help people  HughMoran   Mar-11-10 12:54 PM   #127 
     - Hey look, I'll take the bill.  asdjrocky   Mar-11-10 01:04 PM   #129 
  - I was an Ed fan, now I'm thinking "controlled opposition"  SandWalker1984   Mar-12-10 02:06 PM   #134 
  - So pass the damned thing. Just don't call it a victory.  Jakes Progress   Mar-12-10 02:11 PM   #135 
  - Ed tried to fight the powers.  freddie mertz   Mar-12-10 02:17 PM   #136 
  - Two days ago Ed said, "It (the PO) is out of the President's hands. It's in the people's hands."  hulka38   Mar-12-10 02:52 PM   #137 
  - Oh No's Ed is now teh corporatist pony!!!!!  uponit7771   Mar-12-10 03:09 PM   #138 
  - If we don't pass this version, we will not see for another 20 years!  DailyGrind51   Mar-12-10 04:57 PM   #139 

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