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Sat Mar-06-10 05:08 PM
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| 47. thank you for bringing rationality and facts into this thread. |
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Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 05:08 PM by dionysus
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| -Obama’s Reprehensible Rhetoric Against Single-Payer |
SHRED |
Mar-06-10 10:12 AM |
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Obama was never an ideologue. |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 10:19 AM |
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"fooled"? |
SHRED |
Mar-06-10 10:32 AM |
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He is not selling single payer. |
TheBigotBasher |
Mar-06-10 06:04 PM |
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that article makes a PRAGMATIC argument for single payer |
Enrique |
Mar-06-10 10:36 AM |
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thanks for clarifying! |
SHRED |
Mar-06-10 10:40 AM |
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You honestly believe a single payer plan is achievable right now? |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 10:46 AM |
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Single payer was a non-starter because Obama made it so |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-06-10 10:49 AM |
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Fair point. |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 10:54 AM |
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Dennis Kucinich supported Single Payer during the campaign |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-06-10 11:23 AM |
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And exactly how many delegates did he earn during the primaries? |
WonderGrunion |
Mar-06-10 01:23 PM |
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don't insult the mighty kucinich juggernaut |
dionysus |
Mar-06-10 05:06 PM |
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Did he ever get above 5% of the vote anywhere? In 2004 or 2008? |
karynnj |
Mar-06-10 05:00 PM |
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he said major contenders, not egotistical jokes. |
dionysus |
Mar-06-10 05:06 PM |
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Yes, but by using the rhetoric he does damage to any future effort. His Rehetoric SUCKS |
Go2Peace |
Mar-06-10 12:29 PM |
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Not true - there's a reason none of the viable candidates |
karynnj |
Mar-06-10 04:58 PM |
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thank you for bringing rationality and facts into this thread. |
dionysus |
Mar-06-10 05:08 PM |
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single payer was a non-starter because it had like 5 votes in the senate. you can pretend otherwise |
dionysus |
Mar-06-10 05:05 PM |
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the article is saying it can work |
Enrique |
Mar-06-10 10:53 AM |
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Almost two- thirds of the country favored a national HC system before |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-06-10 11:21 AM |
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Yes, the Dems should be more careful about using Republican talking points to defend their actions |
Go2Peace |
Mar-06-10 12:27 PM |
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Yes, this does damage to a movement for a national HC system... |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-06-10 01:12 PM |
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But in the same polls, comparable numbers wanted to keep what they had |
karynnj |
Mar-06-10 05:02 PM |
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Regardless, the President is unwise to use Republican Rhetoric with the topic |
Go2Peace |
Mar-06-10 02:21 PM |
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I'm not sure his exact comment was as harsh as you claim. |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 08:06 PM |
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That's repeating the meme that Goverment is bad and can't do anything right? |
Go2Peace |
Mar-07-10 06:15 PM |
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Believing that health care is a fundamental human right is not being ideologue |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-06-10 10:44 AM |
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Please don't misconstrue my point. |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 10:51 AM |
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But he is only promoting common ground with the for profit companies |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-06-10 11:23 AM |
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Ugh... |
jefferson_dem |
Mar-06-10 11:32 AM |
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If Obama really want to fight the evil companies who deny health care |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-06-10 12:03 PM |
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I am sure those health insurance honchos were moved to tears by Obama's reading of the letter |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-06-10 12:22 PM |
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Yes, maybe Obama needs to lock them outside of the WH gates and |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-06-10 01:09 PM |
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Golly, but is he a Democrat? |
JackRiddler |
Mar-06-10 11:49 AM |
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Very true. Ideologues actually believe in something. n/t |
QC |
Mar-06-10 12:23 PM |
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Any questions? I have one |
DJ13 |
Mar-06-10 10:22 AM |
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Do we get to elect anything really? |
JackRiddler |
Mar-06-10 11:59 AM |
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+01 |
Greyhound |
Mar-06-10 12:48 PM |
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Yes. |
Dr.Phool |
Mar-06-10 12:06 PM |
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My rep made a similar statement that really irked me: |
Auggie |
Mar-06-10 10:26 AM |
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It must be selfisness and greed |
SHRED |
Mar-06-10 10:28 AM |
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knr. Think about how flat it would have been if he had campaigned on |
nightrain |
Mar-06-10 10:43 AM |
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I bet this gets unrecced into oblivion. |
salguine |
Mar-06-10 11:44 AM |
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Actually, the same article posted in GD had 108 net recs (despite dozens of unrecs, I'm sure): |
inna |
Mar-06-10 02:04 PM |
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Yep, this forum is under control by a small group. Anything off "Talking Point" is unrecd here |
Go2Peace |
Mar-06-10 02:23 PM |
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Very true. |
inna |
Mar-06-10 02:34 PM |
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I've begun to notice, recently, posts of mine deleted that were |
salguine |
Mar-06-10 04:20 PM |
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Anything that is not a "talking point" get's a coordinated unrec in GD Presidential |
Go2Peace |
Mar-06-10 02:17 PM |
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Myopic self-importance. |
Perky |
Mar-06-10 11:59 AM |
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Medicare is a single payer system, while the VA system is like UK's NHS |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-06-10 12:25 PM |
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i'm crushed. |
dionysus |
Mar-06-10 05:05 PM |
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Does he not realize he is the HEAD of government here? |
WinkyDink |
Mar-06-10 10:39 PM |
#50 |
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