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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 11:23 PM
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15. What exactly is in the "fix"?
I suppose that would have a lot to do with my answer. If it is a real fix, then I will be happy. If it is political window dressing, I will be sad.

That is assuming that the fix makes it through reconciliation. I have to be honest and say that there are not 50 senators that I trust currently serving in the senate. And despite what a horrible horrible mistake it would be on any number of levels, I would not put it past the senate to agree to pass the fix, wait for the house to pass the original bill, and then stab the congress right in the back and fail to pass any fix, even via reconciliation.

I am a big proponent of passing a real "fix" via reconciliation. And making the senate vote it through BEFORE the house passes the original bill. Congressmen have to answer to us, more or less. Senators by and large do not seem to have any such worries.
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  -How will you feel once the healthcare bill is passed and the fix makes it through reconciliation? jefferson_dem  Mar-03-10 05:22 PM   #0 
  - Happy. How about you, jefferson_dem? nt  gateley   Mar-03-10 05:27 PM   #1 
  - Oh, let's see... Here are some hints --  jefferson_dem   Mar-03-10 05:32 PM   #2 
     - ...:  gateley   Mar-03-10 05:47 PM   #6 
  - Not really sure I have heard so much misinformation  doc03   Mar-03-10 05:33 PM   #3 
  - Depends.....if they ram through a decent PO I will be happy. No PO and a mandate....I will not .  yourout   Mar-03-10 05:37 PM   #4 
  - that's about it  yurbud   Mar-04-10 11:25 AM   #23 
  - That is my metric, as well.  tekisui   Mar-05-10 09:29 AM   #52 
  - Glad to see them get the turd out of the living room  depakid   Mar-03-10 05:37 PM   #5 
  - I don't think it will pass.  bbinacan   Mar-03-10 05:48 PM   #7 
  - A lot of the Democrats will chicken out. You are right- they are afraid.  AlinPA   Mar-03-10 06:49 PM   #9 
  - I thought I was the only one.  BlueIris   Mar-04-10 03:04 AM   #18 
  - Then they will get slaughtered in the midterms because they didnt pass it  niceypoo   Mar-04-10 08:45 PM   #47 
  - Better than Nothing -- No passage and the Dems would be easy picking in November.  denimgirly   Mar-03-10 05:50 PM   #8 
  - they DESERVE to be easy pickings....  mike_c   Mar-04-10 01:49 PM   #34 
     - Same here, Mike. people mistakenly think that  truedelphi   Mar-04-10 04:18 PM   #35 
     - Same here nt  Raine   Mar-07-10 05:19 AM   #71 
  - Unless it includes Single Payer, it is just more of the same ol' con game.  RC   Mar-03-10 06:51 PM   #10 
  - .  HughMoran   Mar-04-10 04:21 PM   #38 
  - not the end of the line  Rosa Luxemburg   Mar-04-10 08:01 PM   #46 
  - ..  Phx_Dem   Mar-05-10 01:10 PM   #55 
  - If a REAL public option (the Jacob Hacker/Howard Dean version) is passed, I would be happy.  Sebastian Doyle   Mar-03-10 07:00 PM   #11 
  - if the public option is not in the Senate Bill  truedelphi   Mar-04-10 07:48 PM   #43 
  - the excise tax on the middle class is cruel and dishonest  amborin   Mar-03-10 08:42 PM   #12 
  - But it is negative only for the middle class, and not the Upper One Percent  truedelphi   Mar-04-10 04:19 PM   #37 
     - exactly!  amborin   Mar-04-10 07:19 PM   #40 
  - another delusional rosy scenario  IndianaGreen   Mar-03-10 09:28 PM   #13 
  - Ask me 2-3 years after it passes.  freddie mertz   Mar-03-10 10:06 PM   #14 
  - What exactly is in the "fix"?  quakerboy   Mar-03-10 11:23 PM   #15 
  - According to Olbermann's show last week,  truedelphi   Mar-04-10 04:23 PM   #39 
  - What's the "fix"?  harun   Mar-03-10 11:24 PM   #16 
  - Very pleased.  damonm   Mar-03-10 11:55 PM   #17 
  - Other.  bvar22   Mar-04-10 09:16 AM   #19 
  - What you said.  Hell Hath No Fury   Mar-04-10 11:46 AM   #24 
     - Low information Democrats were celebrating then too.  bvar22   Mar-04-10 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Like an empty husk. A man without a cause, who's lost his passion, his Raison D'ertre  cliffordu   Mar-04-10 10:53 AM   #20 
  - Oh my!  FrenchieCat   Mar-04-10 11:02 AM   #21 
  - Ok, FrenchieCat, ya got me.  cliffordu   Mar-04-10 11:15 AM   #22 
  - Ah made a raison pie 3 days ago. It's lost too, somebody 'et it...  fadedrose   Mar-04-10 09:59 PM   #50 
     - Well...  cliffordu   Mar-04-10 10:22 PM   #51 
  - Happy.  Jennicut   Mar-04-10 11:47 AM   #25 
  - Happy!  goclark   Mar-04-10 07:20 PM   #41 
  - and then, I'll be able to afford to address the repeated whiplash  Sheepshank   Mar-04-10 11:47 AM   #26 
  - Ready to fight for improving the system that was just voted.  Mass   Mar-04-10 11:49 AM   #27 
  - Relieved, but then ready for the next round of attacks.  quiet.american   Mar-04-10 12:23 PM   #28 
  - "Other"  Stinky The Clown   Mar-04-10 12:25 PM   #29 
  - I will feel like this:  dave29   Mar-04-10 01:13 PM   #31 
  - I love this link.  tekisui   Mar-05-10 09:31 AM   #53 
  - we found it at work yesterday. It has been sent to every human I know  dave29   Mar-05-10 06:34 PM   #58 
     - Bad makeup, bad wig, scary, ghoulish.  Manifestor_of_Light   Mar-06-10 07:21 PM   #64 
  - That link is terrifying and thank you for making me aware of it  Posteritatis   Mar-07-10 02:49 AM   #69 
  - Your poll left out an option - I don't think they will "fix" the bill once passed  SandWalker1984   Mar-04-10 01:32 PM   #32 
  - In fact, the reconciliation process only allows for  truedelphi   Mar-04-10 07:51 PM   #45 
  - ..."Other" = Relieved  Froward69   Mar-04-10 01:33 PM   #33 
  - Ecstatic. n/t  Unvanguard   Mar-04-10 04:19 PM   #36 
  - If it passes, it will mean much stress and worry  Bluenorthwest   Mar-04-10 07:44 PM   #42 
  - Am happy for those who really need it. I already have excellent care. I have been  southernyankeebelle   Mar-04-10 07:51 PM   #44 
  - I had excellent care...  niceypoo   Mar-04-10 08:50 PM   #48 
  - I hope it means I could stop holding my breath every morning checking the TV for "damage"  fadedrose   Mar-04-10 09:58 PM   #49 
  - Happy will be an understatement.  Phx_Dem   Mar-05-10 01:09 PM   #54 
  - Overjoyed is more like it. n/t  quiller4   Mar-05-10 11:46 PM   #62 
  - How about ecstatic!  DFLforever   Mar-05-10 02:38 PM   #56 
  - Wonderful  CreekDog   Mar-05-10 02:47 PM   #57 
  - relieved  Mz Pip   Mar-05-10 06:38 PM   #59 
  - There won't be ANY fix through reconciliation. We'll be stuck with the HORRIFIC Senate Bill.  ShortnFiery   Mar-05-10 06:39 PM   #60 
  - cheer up  dave29   Mar-05-10 06:40 PM   #61 
  - Sad for the American people, 'cause it's one big blowjob to the insurance companies.  DutchLiberal   Mar-06-10 06:39 PM   #63 
  - You mean, how we feel when the insurance bill is pushed through congress?  David Zephyr   Mar-06-10 07:37 PM   #65 
  - Happy and relieved. n/t  jenmito   Mar-06-10 07:42 PM   #66 
  - It depends  PSzymeczek   Mar-06-10 07:51 PM   #67 
  - Relieved~  Raine1967   Mar-06-10 07:55 PM   #68 
  - "healhcare bill"??? Oh I see, you mean the insurance bill  Raine   Mar-07-10 05:09 AM   #70 

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