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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:25 PM
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57. My husband is right the military, corporations and banks
run this country.

The politicians just play around them.
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  -U.S. Will Be Out Of Afghanistan By 2017: White House Better Believe It  Nov-26-09 09:23 AM   #0 
  - 2017? That is ANOTHER eight years.  debbierlus   Nov-26-09 09:29 AM   #1 
  - We don't have the money but we can borrow it from China..  Garam_Masala   Nov-26-09 07:15 PM   #98 
  - The OP headline is misleading as it's a total guess on the reporter's part. Surprise, surprise.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 09:30 AM   #2 
  - I would bet any sum of money we will not be out by 2016.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 09:32 AM   #3 
  - Perhaps you & the reporter of this article have something in common... I'm not into hypotheticals  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 09:57 AM   #6 
     - Open your eyes to the reality.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 10:02 AM   #8 
        - I would be surprised if President Obama does not share your concerns, which is why...  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 10:33 AM   #10 
           - AQ isn't mushrooming.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 10:35 AM   #12 
              - Heads of state and people in the region differ with you.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 10:52 AM   #17 
                 - None of those suggest AQ is mushrooming.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 11:05 AM   #18 
                    - You offer only fact-free rhetoric and refuse to accept "reality" despite my credibly sourced links.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:15 AM   #21 
                       - Sorry, I thought you had been paying attention.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 11:26 AM   #25 
                          - Now you have 1 source who has no security clearance and hasn't been in the region since the 80's...  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:35 AM   #30 
                          - Sorry but president is 10 times smarter than Dr Sageman  Garam_Masala   Nov-26-09 07:21 PM   #99 
                             - We should trust our President, like Brittany Spears said, huh?  tekisui   Nov-27-09 09:07 AM   #102 
  - Exactly. Crap post. n/t  vaberella   Nov-26-09 09:57 AM   #7 
     - You really expect an escalatation will get us out in a shorter period?  tekisui   Nov-26-09 10:03 AM   #9 
        - The surge in Iraq worked by most analysts' reckoning & Pres. Obama is now beginning to w/d troops.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 10:35 AM   #11 
        - It wasn't the surge.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 10:37 AM   #13 
           - The Sunni Awakening would not have succeeded without the security provided by the surge.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:09 AM   #20 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-26-09 11:26 AM   #24 
              - I really love this. Using Iraq as a model for success.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 11:29 AM   #28 
              - I'm refuting your earlier point. I'm not a rigid ideologue who can't give credit where it is due.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:44 AM   #32 
              - The Sunni Awakening preceded Petraeus surge by months  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 06:32 PM   #88 
        - Did I ever say that?! You like the OP have problems with reading posts and articles.  vaberella   Nov-26-09 11:49 AM   #39 
           - Ok. I ask now, do you think a surge will get us out quicker than  tekisui   Nov-26-09 11:53 AM   #44 
              - What is this talk about 8 or 9 years?  vaberella   Nov-26-09 01:56 PM   #62 
  - Have you people not been listening,, THE WORLD WILL END IN 2012,,  lazer47   Nov-26-09 09:46 AM   #4 
  - How in the hell does this title relate to what Gibbs said?  vaberella   Nov-26-09 09:56 AM   #5 
  - lol. It will take the majority of next year just for the Second Surge.  tekisui   Nov-26-09 10:39 AM   #14 
  - Are you not understanding my statement?! Is it that hard to grasp.  vaberella   Nov-26-09 11:45 AM   #33 
  - Once again vaberella, it's simple math! 2009 + 8 = 2017  Better Believe It   Nov-26-09 10:44 AM   #15 
     - Obama's goals in Afghanistan are naive and unrealistic.  2tr4nqued   Nov-26-09 10:47 AM   #16 
     - and he will get a lot of people killed for nothing  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 11:07 AM   #19 
     - What are his "goals"? Since you are obviously privy to an advance copy of his speech next Tuesday.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:18 AM   #22 
        - Obama's goal is to tell the GOP he has cojones  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 11:28 AM   #26 
           - Then why did he REJECT all 4 plans presented to him? He wanted an exit strategy  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:33 AM   #29 
           - Obama's plans reeks of Nixon's Vietnamization  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 11:46 AM   #35 
              - What IS his plan? Did he tell you before he told the rest of us?  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:49 AM   #40 
              - According to her, his only "goal is to tell the GOP he has cojones".  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:51 AM   #42 
                 - I know. Some people just like to make Obama look bad DESPITE the facts. They're the Faux anchors  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:55 AM   #45 
                    - The goals are similar: 24/7 Obama Outrage serves their hateful need to demonize the President.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 12:07 PM   #48 
                       - A President about to embark on a course that will bankrupt our country  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 06:34 PM   #89 
              - Oh good!!!  Baltoman991   Nov-26-09 01:07 PM   #52 
           - I prefer unbiased facts to the fact-free anti-Obama rhetoric that seems to be the norm for you.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:46 AM   #34 
              - I will make it a point to post every civilian casualty and US troop deaths  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 11:47 AM   #36 
                 - Go ahead. That doesn't mitigate the fact that you have offered no facts to back up your rhetoric.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 11:49 AM   #38 
                    - The facts will be the new graves at our national cemeteries caused by Obama's wars  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 11:55 AM   #46 
                       - Tacky grandstanding on "new graves" doesn't prove "Obama's goal is to tell the GOP he has cojones".  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 12:35 PM   #50 
     - It's also simple comprehension: Saying we WON'T be there another 8 or 9 years  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:29 AM   #27 
     - Don't patronize me. You are SPREADING misinformation!!  vaberella   Nov-26-09 11:42 AM   #31 
        - I'm just doing simple math. 2009 + 8 = 2017  Better Believe It   Nov-26-09 01:59 PM   #65 
           - I want to call you a liar but I don't think it's in the rules.  vaberella   Nov-26-09 02:20 PM   #69 
  - Saying we will be out BY '17 does NOT mean we won't be out BEFORE '17.  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:23 AM   #23 
  - That's the thing as well. No where in the bloody article does Gibbs say well be out by 2017.  vaberella   Nov-26-09 11:48 AM   #37 
  - Exactly. Yet people are "doing the math" and concluding that Obama said we'll be there 'TIL  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:53 AM   #43 
     - No they are definitely spinning on purpose. This is straight up nonsense.  vaberella   Nov-26-09 01:49 PM   #60 
  - Like we are going to get out early!!! When have the generals ever wanted to do that?  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 11:50 AM   #41 
  - Since when were the generals the POTUS? Do you forget that Obama REJECTED the plan of the  jenmito   Nov-26-09 11:58 AM   #47 
     - Yes, yes, yes....  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 12:33 PM   #49 
     - "now Obama is committing our troops there for at least seven years" Really? What's your source?  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 12:57 PM   #51 
     - She also said we're in a double dip recession, "proving" it by posting links to  jenmito   Nov-26-09 01:11 PM   #54 
        - ROFL...she's got a recognizable MO, I see. She shares it w/many others desperate to demonize Obama.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 01:19 PM   #56 
        - She sure does. Many posts to her have gone unanswered,  jenmito   Nov-26-09 01:42 PM   #58 
        - ...  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 01:55 PM   #61 
           - ...  jenmito   Nov-26-09 01:56 PM   #63 
        - Obama isn't a devil.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 02:15 PM   #68 
        - You haven't answered my question: what's your source for your "seven years" war claim?  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 03:10 PM   #72 
           - Read the article. Or just do the math. 2010 plus seven years equals 2017.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 04:13 PM   #74 
              - Once again---where in Gods name does Gibbs---who the author is quoting...  vaberella   Nov-26-09 04:52 PM   #75 
              - Nowhere does it say that "Obama is committing our troops there for at least seven years"  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 04:56 PM   #77 
        - Yeah, it's all about Obama? Damn that's beyond conceited.  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 05:44 PM   #84 
        - Psst ... a future double dip recession that will start in 2010.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 02:05 PM   #67 
           - We are NOT in a double dip recession and may very well not get INTO one!  jenmito   Nov-26-09 02:23 PM   #70 
              - Thanks for American Perspectives of Hope complements of Disneyland.  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 05:41 PM   #83 
                 - We're still coming out of the recession. Things are slowly improving. You and the poster who  jenmito   Nov-26-09 07:00 PM   #95 
     - You're a lost cause. You obviously are not living in the fact-based world. NOTHING  jenmito   Nov-26-09 01:08 PM   #53 
     - Well put. eom  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 06:44 PM   #91 
     - Bush lied for 8 years, and on Tuesday, Obama will lie to us about Afghanistan  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 06:37 PM   #90 
        - I'm so sick of your Obama hatred. You can continue to bash him without involving me.  jenmito   Nov-26-09 08:02 PM   #100 
  - No, if the MIC had it's way ... and it HAS so far, we'll be there for 50 more years.  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 01:14 PM   #55 
     - I'm going by what Obama has said and what he WILL say on Tuesday night.  jenmito   Nov-26-09 01:45 PM   #59 
        - Then you also must value Obama above numerous foreign service officers and CIA agents.  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 05:35 PM   #81 
        - I trust Obama to make an intelligent, informed decision after consulting with many experts, reading  jenmito   Nov-26-09 07:07 PM   #96 
        - Rick Warren sure did a lot for the trust issue, didn't it?  IndianaGreen   Nov-26-09 06:48 PM   #92 
           - Obama never promised not to allow Rick Warren to speak at his inauguration. Get real.  jenmito   Nov-26-09 07:11 PM   #97 
  - My husband is right the military, corporations and banks  marlakay   Nov-26-09 01:25 PM   #57 
  - We both voted for Obama in my home  avaistheone1   Nov-26-09 02:45 PM   #71 
  - +1, you've learnt who the real boss is.  harun   Nov-26-09 06:21 PM   #87 
  - Not to be snarkey, but why don't you tell us what you think rather than  treestar   Nov-26-09 06:53 PM   #93 
  - That soon?  AngryOldDem   Nov-26-09 01:57 PM   #64 
  - Did you read the bloody article?! Where does Gibbs say we're out in 2017?  vaberella   Nov-26-09 02:01 PM   #66 
  - Sheeettt....even Bush could have accomplished that much  Generator   Nov-26-09 03:17 PM   #73 
  - You believe this post?! For bloody fuck's sake!! n/t  vaberella   Nov-26-09 04:53 PM   #76 
     - Gee, and I always wondered how Fox News viewers could be so dumb.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 05:03 PM   #78 
     - 16 years is way too long to be in Afghanistan. Bring our troops home now!  Better Believe It   Nov-26-09 05:11 PM   #79 
        - Uh huh. Tell me, does your crystal ball give out lottery numbers too?  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 05:17 PM   #80 
           - Tell me when you're either going to join the Contractors and/or the Military over in Afghanistan ...  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 05:37 PM   #82 
              - Spare me the histrionics & the Christianist terminology. I'm disinterested in indulging either one.  ClarkUSA   Nov-26-09 05:52 PM   #85 
                 - No slight challenge. You think these two occupations are so GOOD and you BELIEVE in all things  ShortnFiery   Nov-26-09 05:56 PM   #86 
  - You sort of turned Gibbs' quote inside out  treestar   Nov-26-09 06:55 PM   #94 
  - What if Palin wins (God forbid) in 2012?  mcablue   Nov-27-09 08:51 AM   #101 
  - Dumbest thread ever  BklnDem75   Nov-27-09 09:21 AM   #103 
 

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