ProSense
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Mon Feb-22-10 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 50. "What's to stop the next administration from deregulating health insurance? " |
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You're blaming the administration for what the next one might do?
What's to stop them from doing anything?
What's to stop people from reaching to the depths of ridiculousness to complain?
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| -The President's bill proves that there is always room for complaining |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 10:37 AM |
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And wouldn't you just love to SILENCE it? |
freddie mertz |
Feb-22-10 10:39 AM |
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No. |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 10:41 AM |
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Thank the gods. nt. |
freddie mertz |
Feb-22-10 10:55 AM |
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Pro, do you see any way, under this proposal that we could get a public option? |
CTyankee |
Feb-22-10 10:41 AM |
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That is one of my MAJOR disappointments. Public Option!!!! public option!!! public option!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Feb-22-10 10:43 AM |
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Progressive Change Campaign Committee |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 10:43 AM |
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So, is the idea to have an opt out of exchanges so that at the state level states can do PO? |
CTyankee |
Feb-22-10 10:53 AM |
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Isn't that what's in the current bill? |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 10:59 AM |
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OK, so this is a way to get more and more states having their own PO. |
CTyankee |
Feb-22-10 11:06 AM |
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I think |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:07 AM |
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The WH hasn't ruled anything out. |
TheWraith |
Feb-22-10 10:43 AM |
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Can't while Rahm protects the blue dogs |
zipplewrath |
Feb-22-10 10:52 AM |
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Thank you for your boogeyman and non sequitur. |
TheWraith |
Feb-22-10 10:56 AM |
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Because the whole other chamber is meaningless |
zipplewrath |
Feb-22-10 11:09 AM |
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You're wrong, and so are your facts. |
TheWraith |
Feb-22-10 11:15 AM |
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How else do left wingers move them? |
zipplewrath |
Feb-22-10 11:26 AM |
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The whole point of this exercise is to ... |
frazzled |
Feb-22-10 10:51 AM |
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Before I cheer, I will wait and see what FINALLY is signed.... |
BrklynLiberal |
Feb-22-10 10:41 AM |
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The price controls serve the same purpose the PO was suppose to serve. But that doesn't matter. |
phleshdef |
Feb-22-10 10:54 AM |
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The price controls are only on premiums but does not do anything for denial of |
dkf |
Feb-22-10 10:58 AM |
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The bill establishes an independent panel that can be consulted to appeal insurance company denials. |
phleshdef |
Feb-22-10 11:31 AM |
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The "complainers" (ie supporters of true HCR) see the PO as a first step |
freddie mertz |
Feb-22-10 10:58 AM |
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It's still just an insurance bill |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 11:20 AM |
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Ditto and BINGO!!! n/t |
Fire1 |
Feb-22-10 01:36 PM |
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This bill shows he doesn't care that we citizens are most interested in a public option. |
dkf |
Feb-22-10 10:55 AM |
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And he eats puppies, too!!!!11one |
TheWraith |
Feb-22-10 10:57 AM |
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A President so out of touch does nothing to help our party. |
dkf |
Feb-22-10 11:00 AM |
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The President isn't the one who is out of touch |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:05 AM |
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Exactly..how much is |
Cha |
Feb-22-10 11:28 AM |
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So does the strategy end with the popular public option? |
dkf |
Feb-23-10 01:21 AM |
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PO is the most popular aspect of the whole plan. |
freddie mertz |
Feb-22-10 11:01 AM |
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Blaming the President for the actions of the Senate is simply bullshit. |
TheWraith |
Feb-22-10 12:59 PM |
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-1 |
Mithreal |
Feb-22-10 03:18 PM |
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"We citizens" barely know what a public option even means or what the rest of the bill even does. |
phleshdef |
Feb-22-10 11:34 AM |
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people are complaining even though you like it? |
Enrique |
Feb-22-10 11:08 AM |
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Republicans complain every day |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:13 AM |
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it doesn't 'improve on both' |
Enrique |
Feb-22-10 11:22 AM |
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It does improve both dramatically, and |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:23 AM |
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No public option is NOT an improvement |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 11:22 AM |
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Some people actually believe rate regulation is better than a public option |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:25 AM |
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"Some people" |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 12:41 PM |
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"What's to stop the next administration from deregulating health insurance? " |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 12:45 PM |
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I'm blaming this administration for not caring about the U.S. joining the civilized world |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 12:59 PM |
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What utter nonsense. |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 01:08 PM |
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Mandatory insurance is not reform |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 01:15 PM |
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Single payer is mandatory insurance, and |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 01:20 PM |
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The difference being that a tax supported single payer system, |
dflprincess |
Feb-22-10 01:47 PM |
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It DOES still include the Stupak Amendment. |
ThomCat |
Feb-22-10 11:15 AM |
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No, it does not. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:18 AM |
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According to this link, it is. |
ThomCat |
Feb-22-10 11:36 AM |
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That is not the Stupak amendment. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:40 AM |
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That is NOT the Stupak language |
karynnj |
Feb-22-10 11:41 AM |
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Ah. Okay. If if you buy private insurance plans |
ThomCat |
Feb-22-10 11:55 AM |
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"if you are on a government plan though, it won't be covered," Wrong |
ProSense |
Feb-22-10 11:59 AM |
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If there was a government plan, funded by premiums we pay |
ThomCat |
Feb-22-10 12:10 PM |
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The public option as defined would NOT be paid by public funds |
karynnj |
Feb-22-10 02:37 PM |
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That was not the Senate language - |
karynnj |
Feb-22-10 02:34 PM |
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Can something not budget related be removed in reconciliation? |
karynnj |
Feb-22-10 11:39 AM |
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Thanks for being so |
Cha |
Feb-22-10 11:30 AM |
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True |
karynnj |
Feb-22-10 11:33 AM |
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kick and rec NT |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-22-10 11:47 AM |
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I'm one of those whiners and I just won the lottery . . . |
Phx_Dem |
Feb-22-10 02:49 PM |
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Don't sound too bad could be worse, considering everyhthing we've seen. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Feb-22-10 03:00 PM |
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If the insurance companies need constant policing, they don't deserve to be in business. |
Vinca |
Feb-22-10 03:02 PM |
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Misstating the position of the opposition is such a winning strategy |
Mithreal |
Feb-22-10 03:24 PM |
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Feb-22-10 04:00 PM |
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Feb-23-10 10:15 AM |
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Or course there is. if it had a public option, the same people |
treestar |
Feb-23-10 10:32 AM |
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