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Sun Jan-24-10 03:54 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
| -Krugman: Very good news on health reform |
johan helge |
Jan-23-10 09:44 AM |
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God, just do it |
frazzled |
Jan-23-10 10:07 AM |
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just do it the fuck already .... |
veganlush |
Jan-24-10 09:12 AM |
#82 |
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"They need to pull this out." Exactly. Rec'd. nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-23-10 10:11 AM |
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So Alan Grayson is right and Tweety is wrong. Imagine that. |
Doremus |
Jan-24-10 11:18 AM |
#93 |
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They both were right/wrong ... |
Cosmocat |
Jan-24-10 07:02 PM |
#110 |
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If you listened to the whole interview, Grayson's only point was that |
Doremus |
Jan-25-10 11:48 AM |
#113 |
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For Gods sake -- NOW they want to use reconcilliation? |
Armstead |
Jan-23-10 10:20 AM |
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No kidding |
Blasphemer |
Jan-23-10 10:22 AM |
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Better now |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 10:28 AM |
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Well, what we know now and should have known then was that |
CTyankee |
Jan-23-10 11:58 AM |
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+1 |
Armstead |
Jan-23-10 11:59 AM |
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Wrong. |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 12:11 PM |
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The polls showed 70% wanted the Public Option!!! What part of that do you not understand? |
CTyankee |
Jan-23-10 01:57 PM |
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Misreading the polls |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 05:21 PM |
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well, then, what is your explanation? nt |
CTyankee |
Jan-23-10 06:03 PM |
#40 |
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You are misreading the polls. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 03:59 AM |
#60 |
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That polling indicates that 70% of all Mass. voters, & 48% of Brown's,... |
burning rain |
Jan-24-10 07:27 PM |
#112 |
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very little difference between the House and Senate bills? |
ibegurpard |
Jan-23-10 02:15 PM |
#30 |
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How about you becoming informed? |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 05:17 PM |
#36 |
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we do know that both bills SUCK |
Skittles |
Jan-24-10 03:41 AM |
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+10 |
Myrina |
Jan-24-10 08:38 AM |
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Independents that don't want |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 03:57 AM |
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+2 |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 03:54 AM |
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This bunch couldn't pass gas without blowing their brains out. n/t |
dgibby |
Jan-23-10 10:56 AM |
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Thanks... |
Robeson |
Jan-23-10 01:32 PM |
#24 |
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Reconciliation can only be used for revenue related items |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-23-10 05:13 PM |
#35 |
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Yes. That's why the best strategy is to pass the Senate bill, then use a reconciliation sidecar. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-24-10 11:23 AM |
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don't care, as long as they do it. nt |
LaydeeBug |
Jan-23-10 10:21 PM |
#52 |
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Spot on. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-24-10 08:21 AM |
#72 |
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Reconciliation has always been on the table and often discussed |
underpants |
Jan-24-10 09:24 AM |
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Excellent n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 10:22 AM |
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If they were going to use Reconciliation, why on the watered |
mother earth |
Jan-23-10 10:31 AM |
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Single-payer today is approximately as realistic as |
johan helge |
Jan-23-10 12:20 PM |
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See my post #28. |
CTyankee |
Jan-23-10 02:36 PM |
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Yes, I'm sure lots of people want single-payer. |
johan helge |
Jan-23-10 11:40 PM |
#54 |
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Perhaps many Senators were afraid of it? |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 07:45 AM |
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What could they be afraid of? Serving the people is the kiss |
mother earth |
Jan-24-10 09:12 AM |
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It is which people |
treestar |
Jan-24-10 11:50 AM |
#98 |
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I think they are afraid of single-payer |
johan helge |
Jan-24-10 09:29 AM |
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You mean, because it would save the tax-payer billions of dollars? |
Joe Chi Minh |
Jan-24-10 08:39 AM |
#77 |
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Exactly. The insurance industry needs the money! (nt) |
johan helge |
Jan-24-10 09:32 AM |
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They are talking about a patch to make the Senate bill acceptable to the House |
Orangepeel |
Jan-23-10 01:37 PM |
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Kick so people can learn what's possible and not possible with reconciliation. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-23-10 07:42 PM |
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Brilliant question! n/t |
golfguru |
Jan-24-10 07:20 PM |
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It's taking too long. The republicans, teabaggers and media have the momentum now. |
AlinPA |
Jan-23-10 10:38 AM |
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"Let's do this" as they say nt |
flamingdem |
Jan-23-10 11:02 AM |
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There is no plan B. What else are they going to do but forge ahead as they were doing? |
timeforpeace |
Jan-23-10 11:53 AM |
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They need to show competence in something. |
Jennicut |
Jan-23-10 11:55 AM |
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It's the only way to go! K&R. |
jenmito |
Jan-23-10 12:05 PM |
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I'm not holding my breath. |
Catshrink |
Jan-23-10 12:12 PM |
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While we're dreaming, |
dccrossman |
Jan-23-10 12:37 PM |
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It's still gonna pass. Bring it! |
Aramchek |
Jan-23-10 01:22 PM |
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I hope they grow a set .... and DO IT!!!!! |
JoePhilly |
Jan-23-10 01:27 PM |
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Well if they do that then why not put the public option in there |
bigdarryl |
Jan-23-10 01:29 PM |
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This is exactly what Rachel said to do yesterday |
Nancy Waterman |
Jan-23-10 01:31 PM |
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Didn't Krugman say a couple of days ago, "You can't do health reform in pieces"? |
Irish_shark |
Jan-23-10 01:49 PM |
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He was talking about not passing the Senate Bill and instead breaking the existing bill into pieces. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-23-10 07:36 PM |
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The Senate needs to go first. |
hootinholler |
Jan-23-10 01:55 PM |
#27 |
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He's got it right there it is now or never. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Jan-23-10 02:14 PM |
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My 87 yr. old mother just got her bill today for a minor heart attack and Stint. $58,000. Help! |
glinda |
Jan-23-10 03:24 PM |
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nothing in this bill is going to help your mother! eom |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 08:32 AM |
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Constituents of Pelosi and Reid should flood them with calls this weekend telling them to DO THIS. |
jenmito |
Jan-23-10 03:44 PM |
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Most likely true for every Democrat in Congress |
ProSense |
Jan-23-10 05:23 PM |
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I called my Dem rep, my Dem Senator and Nancy. Told them to pass the Senate Bill and fix what they |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-23-10 07:28 PM |
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I am calling them all and telling them if they pass this piece of shit ..this retired union member |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 08:34 AM |
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Well this current Union member... |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-24-10 11:45 AM |
#97 |
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Trying to pass the garbage senate bill is what caused the problems in the first place. |
Wardoc |
Jan-23-10 05:11 PM |
#34 |
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Thus the promise of reconciliation after its passing. |
mzmolly |
Jan-23-10 07:49 PM |
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Not good enough in the least. The mandate would still be there. Reconciliation is a fantasy... |
Wardoc |
Jan-23-10 09:03 PM |
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How do you know what will be in the bill post reconcililation? |
mzmolly |
Jan-23-10 09:28 PM |
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If they want this route..what will they be asking for ? Do you know? no one does! |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 08:44 AM |
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If there was a breach of trust, the House would revolt. |
mzmolly |
Jan-24-10 01:53 PM |
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really?? do you really believe that? then look at this shit ..no pre-existing conditions covered |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 02:22 PM |
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This is speculation. However, if this is true, they can't mandate |
mzmolly |
Jan-24-10 02:27 PM |
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In the immortal words of Barbara Rose |
Puglover |
Jan-23-10 05:53 PM |
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Ram through a Republican Health "Care" Plan?...NOW? |
bvar22 |
Jan-23-10 06:53 PM |
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This is SO damning! Read it and weep! |
CTyankee |
Jan-23-10 07:03 PM |
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If this is true, and it almost surely is, of course they should pass the bill |
johan helge |
Jan-24-10 01:55 AM |
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Right on! |
Myrina |
Jan-24-10 08:40 AM |
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This is what Grayson tried to tell Matthews on Hawdbaw last night. |
mzmolly |
Jan-23-10 07:44 PM |
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Yeah, that's what I heard as well... |
Yurovsky |
Jan-23-10 09:23 PM |
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You mean Towel Snappy? |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 04:08 AM |
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This is the way to go. I wrote to my senators ealier today. |
adamuu |
Jan-23-10 08:18 PM |
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It is more convenient |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 04:44 AM |
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I don't own a gun. n/t |
adamuu |
Jan-24-10 07:29 AM |
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Let the republicans howl - prove they still are in the minority. |
BlueIdaho |
Jan-23-10 10:27 PM |
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Correct, because they will howl anyway. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 04:45 AM |
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Good, there's still hope. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-24-10 12:11 AM |
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Krugman leave it alone. You were planning on giving up... |
vaberella |
Jan-24-10 04:02 AM |
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Of course, you opened my eyes |
johan helge |
Jan-24-10 06:30 AM |
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no one is always right..and PAUL IS WRONG NOW! EOM |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 08:22 AM |
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He's not always right---far from it. |
vaberella |
Jan-24-10 05:00 PM |
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No-one's perfect, of course, but: |
johan helge |
Jan-24-10 05:23 PM |
#108 |
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I'm going to say mean things. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-24-10 04:05 AM |
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K & R Just Do It !!! n/t |
Surya Gayatri |
Jan-24-10 07:43 AM |
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Paul Paul Paul..you can't possibly be this naive, can you? |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 08:07 AM |
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Or Mr Krugman it could be WORSE. Jesus, just look at the past year............... |
pattmarty |
Jan-24-10 08:09 AM |
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So the House passes the horrible Senate bill and the Senate reconciliation bill stalls! |
Better Believe It |
Jan-24-10 09:05 AM |
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The Senate could pass the reconciliation sidecar first. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-24-10 09:24 AM |
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And what will that reconciliation bill look like? |
Better Believe It |
Jan-24-10 09:35 AM |
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To start, the reconciliation bill would have all the changes the House Senate conference |
backscatter712 |
Jan-24-10 11:00 AM |
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The union exemption.. |
Imajika |
Jan-24-10 02:37 PM |
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You're right. |
Better Believe It |
Jan-25-10 12:07 PM |
#114 |
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Republicans are acting like S. Brown just won the presidential election for God's sake. |
spicegal |
Jan-24-10 09:24 AM |
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Oh, "the opposition" may "oppose" it. So, what else is new? |
DailyGrind51 |
Jan-24-10 10:10 AM |
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Well, I think Obama has been wanting to usher in a whole new era of |
Joe Chi Minh |
Jan-24-10 11:12 AM |
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They need to rethink the contents of both bills. |
GinaMaria |
Jan-24-10 10:18 AM |
#90 |
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The Insurance Companies will market health reform |
Onlooker |
Jan-24-10 11:28 AM |
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Dunno why we're so worried about short term protests |
high density |
Jan-24-10 11:40 AM |
#96 |
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just ignore the Republicans |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Jan-24-10 12:40 PM |
#99 |
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Kick |
HughMoran |
Jan-24-10 02:11 PM |
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Liar Paul! White House adviser Plouffe fails to mention /Obama's pre-existing conditions promise |
flyarm |
Jan-24-10 02:23 PM |
#103 |
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This is just rumor mongering. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-24-10 03:15 PM |
#106 |
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Get the the thing done then, WTF! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jan-24-10 05:33 PM |
#109 |
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