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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:26 PM
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11. I disagree
The Senate can not even guarantee that they will adopt the House's changes, so why should the House trust them. The Senate bill as it is toxic, which even Congressman Chris Van Hollen has admitted.
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  -Watch Rachel Maddow on Andrea Mitchell: Just pass the Senate bill and fix it in reconciliation. flpoljunkie  Jan-22-10 02:18 PM   #0 
  - Isn't that what Democrats are good for, political suicide? /nt  still_one   Jan-22-10 02:25 PM   #1 
  - I assume that Rachel means that things like public option...  Ozymanithrax   Jan-22-10 02:36 PM   #2 
  - Even Howard Deans acknowledged the 'public option' is dead.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 02:48 PM   #3 
     - The concern is, that with the New Senator the Conferenced bill will not be accepted.  Ozymanithrax   Jan-22-10 03:08 PM   #7 
        - The clean-up bill must be done through reconciliation in the Senate.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 03:22 PM   #10 
  - I saw it. She was really advocating passing the Senate bill. We've come too far to let  jenmito   Jan-22-10 02:52 PM   #4 
  - Exactly. Quitting is not an option! Dems must show the people they can govern!  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 02:57 PM   #5 
  - I agree with Rachel! n/t  Spazito   Jan-22-10 03:00 PM   #6 
  - What is being offered in the patch and how many do we have in the Senate  TheKentuckian   Jan-22-10 03:09 PM   #8 
  - Last Friday, the House and Senate negotiators were making 'solid progress' in their negotiations.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 03:18 PM   #9 
  - The Senate won't commit to voting on the changes  liskddksil   Jan-22-10 03:38 PM   #12 
     - They were making 'solid progress' in their negotiations last Friday. Gut it up and get it done.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 03:46 PM   #15 
  - I disagree  liskddksil   Jan-22-10 03:26 PM   #11 
  - "Senate bill as it is toxic"  ProSense   Jan-22-10 03:49 PM   #16 
     - I understand them quite well  liskddksil   Jan-22-10 04:16 PM   #22 
  - on political suicide...  Tamahawk   Jan-22-10 03:39 PM   #13 
     - Nelson's deal has already been stripped out. It can be done if Dems do not run and hide.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 03:45 PM   #14 
     - Pass the Senate bill and you can hang it up for a generation or two  TheKentuckian   Jan-22-10 03:52 PM   #17 
        - I disagree. Pass the Senate bill and a clean-up reconciliation bill. It's the only way forward.  flpoljunkie   Jan-22-10 04:02 PM   #19 
        - Dont do anything and you can forget to have a half decent healthcare bill in  Mass   Jan-22-10 04:14 PM   #21 
           - What in the world would stop it from being reversed when the corporate raiders take over anyway?  TheKentuckian   Jan-22-10 04:41 PM   #23 
           - If they're smart they'll pass real financial reform and public financing of their campaigns...  flpoljunkie   Jan-23-10 08:08 AM   #24 
     - Agree, unfortunately  Inuca   Jan-22-10 03:52 PM   #18 
        - Oops!  Tamahawk   Jan-22-10 04:06 PM   #20 
 

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