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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:53 PM
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48. Without the approval of the WH and Obama who happened to announce..
the deal? Now maybe Nelson was being sneaky, but he was one of the people who introduced the amendment for more concessions from Pharma.

Video and other links of Carper defending the WH deal.

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  -President Obama on health reform: I am not going to walk away just because it's hard. ProSense  Jan-22-10 12:52 PM   #0 
  - Nice sentiment, but he IS walking away because it's too hard  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-22-10 12:55 PM   #1 
  - no he's not walking away  Rosa Luxemburg   Jan-22-10 12:58 PM   #2 
  - He walked away from health care reform  dflprincess   Jan-22-10 01:04 PM   #4 
  - +1000  amborin   Jan-22-10 01:07 PM   #8 
  - No, it's just that some people walked away from reality.  ProSense   Jan-22-10 01:11 PM   #13 
  - The people who are out of touch with reality are those who think coverage = care.  dflprincess   Jan-22-10 04:17 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-10 02:37 PM   #35 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-10 03:47 PM   #40 
  - Libby deadbeat?  dflprincess   Jan-22-10 04:27 PM   #44 
     - I guess they really know how to win friends and influence people  ima_sinnic   Jan-22-10 07:20 PM   #53 
  - Can't say it any more clearly than that.  GreenArrow   Jan-22-10 02:42 PM   #37 
  - I agree  LuckyTheDog   Jan-22-10 04:13 PM   #42 
  - Reality bites...  jefferson_dem   Jan-22-10 01:02 PM   #3 
  - "frame it as a win" how cynical can one get! shills for fake HCR can't fool the public  amborin   Jan-22-10 01:06 PM   #7 
  - We have known that real robust reform was dead for over a month. But...  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-22-10 01:16 PM   #16 
  - The players...yes.  jefferson_dem   Jan-22-10 01:31 PM   #21 
  - I agree  CreekDog   Jan-22-10 01:20 PM   #19 
  - Not great advice ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 01:35 PM   #22 
  - Big difference...  jefferson_dem   Jan-22-10 01:48 PM   #26 
     - That will get us far, they are always wrong and our side is always ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 02:06 PM   #30 
  - that is exactly what is wrong  rapturedbyrobots   Jan-22-10 07:52 PM   #54 
  - Delete  MissDeeds   Jan-22-10 08:32 PM   #57 
  - he's walking away & leaving crucial banking details to Congress: just like HCR:  amborin   Jan-22-10 01:05 PM   #5 
     - MarketWatch says "A return to sanity in banking"  tabatha   Jan-22-10 01:08 PM   #9 
     - Writing legislation is Congress' job. nt  Qutzupalotl   Jan-22-10 01:18 PM   #17 
        - well getting them to pass it has generally been a President's job  CreekDog   Jan-22-10 01:21 PM   #20 
        - It takes eight votes, with signigficant negotiating, to pass health reform  ProSense   Jan-22-10 01:39 PM   #23 
        - I'm missing your reasoning here. Why 8 and 7/8? Please explain.  inna   Jan-24-10 08:08 PM   #64 
        - And Congress did not make the behind the scene deals. n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 02:11 PM   #32 
           - Ben Nelson did.  Qutzupalotl   Jan-22-10 05:32 PM   #47 
              - Without the approval of the WH and Obama who happened to announce..  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 05:53 PM   #48 
              - Link that it was Ben Nelson who made the deal with Pharma? n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-23-10 08:58 AM   #61 
        - Did Congress make the deal with Pharma - NO - they were just expected  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 02:10 PM   #31 
  - Walk away because the Senate bill blows  Oregone   Jan-22-10 01:06 PM   #6 
  - That is why it has been halted.  tabatha   Jan-22-10 01:09 PM   #12 
  - I will believe Barack when he fires Rahm and Timmy, in short when his ACTIONS match his speech.  Vincardog   Jan-22-10 01:08 PM   #10 
  - Nice words, but we need someone to actually fight Pharma and the ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 01:09 PM   #11 
  - Folks are so fucking critical sitting there........  FrenchieCat   Jan-22-10 01:12 PM   #14 
  - .....  Highway61   Jan-22-10 01:59 PM   #29 
  - What folks are you talking about?  bigwillq   Jan-22-10 02:20 PM   #33 
  - Another fancy speech, where's the beef? eom  daa   Jan-22-10 01:15 PM   #15 
  - excatly; more populist rhetoric, now that it's finally sinking in Americans aren't that stupid n/t  amborin   Jan-22-10 06:21 PM   #51 
  - I know he is working hard...but has he been working hard on health care?  CreekDog   Jan-22-10 01:19 PM   #18 
  - The health bills are in conference  ProSense   Jan-22-10 01:43 PM   #25 
     - I'm not arguing against that...I'm questioning whether Obama's role has been forceful enough  CreekDog   Jan-22-10 02:34 PM   #34 
  - Prosense: I support the president, but  Teaser   Jan-22-10 01:41 PM   #24 
  - Why are you telling me? This week  ProSense   Jan-22-10 01:50 PM   #27 
  - VIDEO of remarks here -  jefferson_dem   Jan-22-10 01:58 PM   #28 
  - Some people can do nothing but criticize and claim on a message board that  treestar   Jan-22-10 02:41 PM   #36 
  - +1000  liberal N proud   Jan-22-10 03:17 PM   #38 
  - if only they could afford  rapturedbyrobots   Jan-22-10 07:54 PM   #55 
     - You can certainly start at the bottom and don't have to be a lawyer at all  treestar   Jan-23-10 10:41 AM   #62 
  - It's hard to walk away when you were never there.  rug   Jan-22-10 03:37 PM   #39 
  - he walked away a long time ago, back when he handed it over to Max Baucus  ima_sinnic   Jan-22-10 04:03 PM   #41 
  - He walked away from what he told the people :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-22-10 05:55 PM   #49 
  - +1000  amborin   Jan-22-10 06:19 PM   #50 
  - Never thought you would!!  Phx_Dem   Jan-22-10 04:47 PM   #45 
  - That's what she said  Ter   Jan-22-10 05:01 PM   #46 
  - He didn't walk away...  rateyes   Jan-22-10 06:46 PM   #52 
  - I don't see him walking away from big insurance and pharma so easily either.  hulka38   Jan-22-10 08:16 PM   #56 
  - This has been a political disaster, and has compromised his presidency....  Robeson   Jan-22-10 08:59 PM   #58 
  - More pretty words lacking in forth-right action. n/t  Stand and Fight   Jan-22-10 11:39 PM   #59 
  - Unfortunately, he fully intends to let people be denied care by insurance companies  eridani   Jan-23-10 12:12 AM   #60 
  - According to Sen. Sherrod Brown, even now Obama won't lead on HCR  IndianaGreen   Jan-23-10 10:43 AM   #63 

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