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Sun Jan-17-10 09:39 AM
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| 13. Again, this OP is about domestic social policy. Also, you seem to forget |
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Howard Dean supports Obama on AfghanistanHOWARD DEAN: I'm not so sure I'm the liberal wing, but... I've supported the president on this one. I think this is different than Iraq. I think there are people who mean the United States harm over there... I was very pleased to say the — hear the president a few months ago say, "Look, we can't win this war militarily." He gets what we have to do here. And it is true that American public opinion is not supportive of the war effort anymore. I think this does have something to do with security to the United States. I do believe it has something to do with the role of women in these kinds of societies. I think we ought to be supportive of the role of women and their ability to get an education and things like that. I don't think that's the only reason we're there. But I'm supportive of the president, and I'm going to continue to be supportive of the president on Afghanistan. |
| -Howard Dean sells President Obama short |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:18 AM |
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Fuck Rahm and his BS that keeps us heading in the wrong direction. -(nt) |
w4rma |
Jan-17-10 09:21 AM |
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What the hell does this have to do with Rahm? n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:27 AM |
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Everything has to do with Rahm... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Jan-17-10 09:54 AM |
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My thought are the same WHAT DOES RAHM HAVE TO DO WITH THIS POST. |
Top Cat |
Jan-17-10 01:26 PM |
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Thanks. Bookmarked and recc'd |
lamp_shade |
Jan-17-10 09:23 AM |
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You say he's "selling Obama short". How is that fair when Dean is simply telling the truth? nt |
Atticus |
Jan-17-10 09:23 AM |
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Yeah, if you ignore everything in the OP. |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:34 AM |
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That's bullshit and, more's the pity, you know it. |
Atticus |
Jan-17-10 10:06 AM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:12 AM |
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YOU see it. Any post that needs a table of contents and a bibliography |
Atticus |
Jan-17-10 10:21 AM |
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I'll admit there are people |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:32 AM |
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Better check that mirror, NoSense |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jan-17-10 12:57 PM |
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Why haven't you put Afghanistan on your list? |
rug |
Jan-17-10 09:25 AM |
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It is an inconvenient truth |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-17-10 09:27 AM |
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Here: |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:32 AM |
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A press coneference by a politician does not justify a war. |
rug |
Jan-17-10 09:35 AM |
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Again, this OP is about domestic social policy. Also, you seem to forget |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:39 AM |
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So this is not true? "Howard Dean sells President Obama short" |
rug |
Jan-17-10 09:43 AM |
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Are you pretending to be confused? n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:45 AM |
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No, I think it's pretty clear what you're doing. |
rug |
Jan-17-10 11:46 AM |
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Serioulsy, look at the OP and then |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 11:48 AM |
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It is Obama that is coming off way short. Dean is telling the truth! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-17-10 09:26 AM |
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Make ALL The Long Lists You Want... The"BASE" That Rahm Denigrated |
ChiciB1 |
Jan-17-10 09:38 AM |
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Rahm? |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 09:47 AM |
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Shhh, don't tell anyone but that is Howard's 50 state inclusive strategy. I wonder how many recall |
still_one |
Jan-17-10 09:56 AM |
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So What? I'm Aware That Rahm Was A Congress Critter... Now He's The COS & Has |
ChiciB1 |
Jan-17-10 11:19 AM |
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Oh is THIS what it feels like to not be owned by corporate America? |
dkf |
Jan-17-10 09:38 AM |
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Blah, blah, blah |
treestar |
Jan-17-10 09:50 AM |
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Financial institutions that spent more lobbying congress were more apt to get into difficulties |
dkf |
Jan-17-10 10:04 AM |
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Congresspersons know they have to answer to the voters |
treestar |
Jan-17-10 11:02 AM |
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Thank you for putting that together |
treestar |
Jan-17-10 09:48 AM |
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You sell Howard Dean short |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 09:55 AM |
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"Most of your list is an example of a contemporary mainstream Democratic agenda. " |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:02 AM |
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It is not denegrating accomplishments to accurately describe their scope |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:06 AM |
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Wrong |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:10 AM |
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No, you're wrong, so there. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:26 AM |
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"Every individual leader is different so every individual leader will move the ball forward " |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:29 AM |
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Nope |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:33 AM |
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That's exactly what you are trying to argue. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:34 AM |
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Change is a meaningless value without quantifying and qualifying it |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:37 AM |
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"Yes Obama is a 'change agent'" |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:43 AM |
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Look in a mirror n/t |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:44 AM |
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Thanks for proving the point. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:48 AM |
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You can't really be as dense as you pretend to be in this exchange |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-17-10 10:52 AM |
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"I repeat: change is a meaningless value without being quantified and qualified." |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:54 AM |
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Yup! nt |
Atticus |
Jan-17-10 10:08 AM |
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This is a much need steep in keeping people in their homes. |
midnight |
Jan-17-10 10:05 AM |
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All well and good. |
lapfog_1 |
Jan-17-10 10:11 AM |
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Oh, |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:15 AM |
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Mentioned, worked on, NOT DONE YET. |
lapfog_1 |
Jan-17-10 10:21 AM |
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Of course he's not done yet. He's got three years to go in his first term n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:24 AM |
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As I pointed out in my first response |
lapfog_1 |
Jan-17-10 11:47 AM |
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If possible, I would rec your response. nt |
Atticus |
Jan-17-10 10:24 AM |
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Spam, spam spam spam.... the first article you link to does not report good news for Dems. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-17-10 10:17 AM |
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If your kid comes home with C's |
izquierdista |
Jan-17-10 10:19 AM |
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K&R Bookmarked...Thanks prosense.... n/t |
firedupdem |
Jan-17-10 10:21 AM |
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Bullshit. |
LWolf |
Jan-17-10 10:35 AM |
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Thanks for the definition |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 10:36 AM |
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Your welcome. |
LWolf |
Jan-17-10 10:40 AM |
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why the need to "convince" us? any real "change" should be obvious |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-17-10 10:56 AM |
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"Obama did nothing, really--jack, zip, nada--to truly FIGHT for a public option" |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 11:00 AM |
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Sure |
Ildem09 |
Jan-17-10 11:26 AM |
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"He's done damn near what ANY other Democrat would have done" Then |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 11:30 AM |
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grasping at straws |
Ildem09 |
Jan-17-10 11:32 AM |
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No, you are making simplistic statements to justify your argument and |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 11:44 AM |
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i'm saying |
Ildem09 |
Jan-17-10 12:01 PM |
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In the "grand scheme" of things |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 12:06 PM |
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Its this kind of bullshit that keeps us ineffective |
mkultra |
Jan-17-10 11:34 AM |
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alas |
Ildem09 |
Jan-17-10 11:36 AM |
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then they should stop bitching about the lack of progress they create |
mkultra |
Jan-17-10 11:49 AM |
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Why "Accomplishment" Cut and Pastes are disingenuous strawmen |
Political Heretic |
Jan-17-10 12:43 PM |
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Really thought out analysis there |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 12:48 PM |
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Actually, anyone who reads it can see your taking out of context. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-17-10 12:56 PM |
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Not at all. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-17-10 12:59 PM |
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Yes, at all. n/t |
Political Heretic |
Jan-17-10 01:04 PM |
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Oh well, now I finally |
Cha |
Jan-17-10 12:52 PM |
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Howard is proving why he would have made a terrible President |
Aramchek |
Jan-17-10 01:23 PM |
#76 |
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