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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:38 PM
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51. Thank you for this, though the corporatists will ignore it...
just as they've ignored poll after poll over the past few months saying the majority wanted a public option, no mandates, serious banking reform, an end to the wars, no more bailouts, etc.

"Centrist" and "moderate" are misnomers. The DLCers are the extremists in the party.
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  -Why do some people here want our party to be a "small tent" purist party like the Teabaggers? jenmito  Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #0 
  - Because their bruised, delicate egos demand purity  Arkana   Jan-15-10 08:43 PM   #1 
  - I agree...  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:45 PM   #4 
  - Purity? LOL! How about actually voting with a spine???  Wardoc   Jan-15-10 10:39 PM   #59 
  - Because for many people it comes down to them being able to say,  FSogol   Jan-15-10 08:44 PM   #2 
  - Too true. n/t  barb162   Jan-15-10 08:46 PM   #6 
  - Nader 2012.  onehandle   Jan-15-10 08:44 PM   #3 
  - Hell, some people here are already cheerleading for it. nt  TheWraith   Jan-15-10 08:59 PM   #21 
  - He's too old, way too old to be running in 2012. n/t  barb162   Jan-15-10 09:15 PM   #39 
     - He wouldn't be running to win. He never does.  onehandle   Jan-15-10 09:58 PM   #54 
  - Simplest answer ever. They. are. not. "our". Party.  HughMoran   Jan-15-10 08:46 PM   #5 
  - +1. nt  Robb   Jan-15-10 08:47 PM   #7 
  - So, are they the Green Party?  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:49 PM   #9 
  - Purity over Party  HughMoran   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #13 
     - Policy over party and politicians  depakid   Jan-15-10 09:19 PM   #43 
        - so it is all about you.  Hamlette   Jan-16-10 12:17 AM   #68 
        - your damn right  Ildem09   Jan-17-10 05:50 PM   #107 
        - thanks for the Aussie perspective  Aramchek   Jan-16-10 01:04 PM   #95 
  - Oh, the irony.  girl gone mad   Jan-15-10 09:34 PM   #49 
     - I don't want those small tent purists in my big tent! Out!!!  spoony   Jan-16-10 12:43 AM   #72 
        - You sound just like the RWers who accuse US of being intolerant because we won't tolerate intolerant  jenmito   Jan-16-10 11:22 AM   #89 
           - Yep, pointing out that liberals are a part of said big tent is SOOO right wing of me!  spoony   Jan-16-10 12:18 PM   #94 
              - No-you didn't understand the post. He didn't say liberals shouldn't be a part of the big tent...  jenmito   Jan-16-10 03:42 PM   #101 
  - You make total sense  barb162   Jan-15-10 08:47 PM   #8 
  - Thank you...  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #12 
     - Bingo: 'As long as they can claim they're "holier than thou." '  barb162   Jan-15-10 09:05 PM   #26 
        - Thanks, barb!  jenmito   Jan-15-10 09:13 PM   #36 
           - Hey, when you're right, you're right.  barb162   Jan-15-10 09:18 PM   #42 
  - Ironically- this very attitude has driven Democrats from the majority  depakid   Jan-15-10 08:50 PM   #10 
  - WHAT very atitude-wanting to be a big tent party? n/t  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:53 PM   #15 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-15-10 08:57 PM   #20 
  - The big tent arguement was what I heard from the conserva-Dems in the late 80's and early 90's  rpannier   Jan-15-10 09:00 PM   #22 
     - Any time there is a really large party one will have left and right wings  barb162   Jan-15-10 09:12 PM   #35 
     - +1  oxymoron   Jan-15-10 10:15 PM   #56 
  - I know, I know, I know.  barb162   Jan-15-10 09:07 PM   #30 
  - This is not about lessons. It's not about history. It's not about ideology  dave29   Jan-15-10 10:19 PM   #58 
     - If you want to win- then you'd better do what it takes  depakid   Jan-16-10 02:33 AM   #76 
        - You want Democrats to lose.  dave29   Jan-16-10 08:40 AM   #84 
  - It'd be nice if our Party more reflected the MAJORITY of voters.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-15-10 08:51 PM   #11 
  - Cherry picking a couple of issues that are contentious. Oh, and consider the alternative  HughMoran   Jan-15-10 08:54 PM   #16 
  - Who are you talking to?  Warren DeMontague   Jan-15-10 11:11 PM   #61 
  - Yeah gosh, if we wouldn't be so insistent on the public option and A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-16-10 12:10 AM   #67 
  - The majority of our party DOES reflect the majority of voters...  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:56 PM   #17 
  - You need political will and fortitude (and the perception of it) a LOT more than a supermajority  depakid   Jan-15-10 09:08 PM   #32 
  - I agree. And pointing out that the US Senate, for instance, is structured in such a way  Warren DeMontague   Jan-15-10 11:18 PM   #63 
  - Here's what the majority looks like (hint: it ain't what the corporate appeasers tell you it is)  depakid   Jan-15-10 09:06 PM   #29 
  - Thank you for this, though the corporatists will ignore it...  girl gone mad   Jan-15-10 09:38 PM   #51 
  - +1  oxymoron   Jan-15-10 10:17 PM   #57 
  - The majority also opposes same-sex marriage. Do you really want to go there?  namahage   Jan-15-10 11:23 PM   #64 
     - That's changing, and rapidly.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-16-10 01:30 AM   #75 
  - Political xenophobia. NT  Clio the Leo   Jan-15-10 08:53 PM   #14 
  - Exactly!  jenmito   Jan-15-10 08:56 PM   #19 
  - I think it's more the flaw of our two party system  Blaukraut   Jan-15-10 08:56 PM   #18 
  - The coalitions would upset the purists  treestar   Jan-16-10 08:34 PM   #103 
  - from what i see, those people seem to want to join the teabaggers  JI7   Jan-15-10 09:01 PM   #23 
  - Some HAVE joined the teabaggers  jenmito   Jan-15-10 09:02 PM   #24 
  - Ah the name-calling, demagoguery is out in full force  rpannier   Jan-15-10 09:04 PM   #25 
  - 'Straw man' is a better analysis  niceypoo   Jan-15-10 09:06 PM   #27 
  - The whole point of a treehouse is to be able to pull up the ladder, n/t  Davis_X_Machina   Jan-15-10 09:06 PM   #28 
  - How did you feel when we CT Dems primaried Joe Lieberman?  Larkspur   Jan-15-10 09:08 PM   #31 
  - this isn't a Primary election  JI7   Jan-15-10 09:11 PM   #34 
  - Being that CT is a blue state, I was all for it.  jenmito   Jan-15-10 09:17 PM   #41 
  - Primaries and General Elections are two completely different critters!  verges   Jan-16-10 12:18 AM   #69 
  - There's a medium between absolute purity and total ideological incontinence.  JVS   Jan-15-10 09:11 PM   #33 
  - My hope is that Coakley wins by a large margin  ProSense   Jan-15-10 09:13 PM   #37 
  - Despite the annoyance of it all, there are also some decent learning experiences to be had...  BlooInBloo   Jan-15-10 09:15 PM   #38 
  - We can let them be in the party but we can't let them make the decisions.  dkf   Jan-15-10 09:17 PM   #40 
  - Until the rules in the Senate are changed,  jenmito   Jan-15-10 09:22 PM   #44 
     - No. If you let them get away with shenanigans they will  dkf   Jan-15-10 09:27 PM   #46 
        - There's also no good reason why Democrats can't use reconciliation  depakid   Jan-15-10 09:31 PM   #47 
           - Yes reconciliation was and is the way to go.  dkf   Jan-15-10 09:41 PM   #52 
  - Why are some people threatened by those who want to offer real alternatives  DJ13   Jan-15-10 09:23 PM   #45 
  - Rec'd...  firedupdem   Jan-15-10 09:33 PM   #48 
  - They're politically naive. n/t  WeDidIt   Jan-15-10 09:35 PM   #50 
  - Because it is easier to stay pure and call for revolution than to get dirty an make one...  Ozymanithrax   Jan-15-10 09:53 PM   #53 
  - Ask your boss, Mr Emanuel about that.  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-15-10 09:59 PM   #55 
  - Let's see what the GOP was able to do with their pure base  Ildem09   Jan-15-10 10:41 PM   #60 
  - They wanted to lose in '06 and '08?  verges   Jan-16-10 12:24 AM   #71 
  - When the 'tent" gets so big it includes ---  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-15-10 11:13 PM   #62 
  - What is considered the 'center' now was the 'right' 20 years ago  niceypoo   Jan-15-10 11:58 PM   #66 
  - Because those people ARE teabaggers.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-15-10 11:40 PM   #65 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 12:20 AM   #70 
  - Better get used to it  depakid   Jan-16-10 11:25 AM   #90 
  - There should be an unrec tally at DU if only for this ridiculous thread.  hulka38   Jan-16-10 01:05 AM   #73 
  - Well, it's at +3 right now.  jenmito   Jan-16-10 11:54 AM   #92 
     - Sky's the limit jen.  hulka38   Jan-17-10 05:32 PM   #106 
  - WP:UNDUE... it's everywhere.  boppers   Jan-16-10 01:15 AM   #74 
  - Is it a conspiracy to claim that big banks, health insurance companies and big pharma  hulka38   Jan-16-10 02:51 AM   #77 
     - Yes.  boppers   Jan-16-10 04:52 AM   #80 
        - The word "conspiracy" has morphed into meaning false, zany paranoia. That's false.  hulka38   Jan-16-10 09:21 AM   #86 
  - Right, since we all agree on the public option, lets not be 'small tent' coporatists!  grahamhgreen   Jan-16-10 02:57 AM   #78 
  - I just don't want the party to be run by Joe Lieberman. Is that too much to ask for?  DrToast   Jan-16-10 03:40 AM   #79 
  - If you don't want a small tent party,  MadHound   Jan-16-10 07:11 AM   #81 
  - That's bull...  jenmito   Jan-16-10 09:11 PM   #105 
  - "When voters are given a choice between voting for a  mochajava666   Jan-16-10 07:46 AM   #82 
  - The party might consider not taking the left so much for granted.  Vinca   Jan-16-10 08:06 AM   #83 
  - I can't imagine. And you're so right about what a disaster that would be.  Phx_Dem   Jan-16-10 08:59 AM   #85 
  - Corporations are NOT persons! Yet they occupied the best seats under the tent  IndianaGreen   Jan-16-10 09:30 AM   #87 
  - the Health Industry was so eager to cover all those people with pre-existing conditions, huh?  Aramchek   Jan-16-10 01:06 PM   #96 
  - No but their investors were quite happy at the mandates  Warren Stupidity   Jan-16-10 02:26 PM   #100 
     - having to cover people who are really sick is going to cut deeply into their profit margin  Aramchek   Jan-16-10 06:10 PM   #102 
  - Oh baloney  treestar   Jan-16-10 08:35 PM   #104 
  - Why can't we be just like Republicans and still win elections?  PassingFair   Jan-16-10 09:40 AM   #88 
  - It is the DLC-inspired politics of the last year that is killing us.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 11:36 AM   #91 
  - I just want it to be 'our' party.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-16-10 12:12 PM   #93 
  - Our BIG Tent is being occupied  showpan   Jan-16-10 01:33 PM   #97 
  - "What we need is a strong anti-corporatist party that stands up for the common people."  ShortnFiery   Jan-16-10 01:38 PM   #98 
  - How about "REAL" healthcare reform instead of  golfguru   Jan-16-10 01:38 PM   #99 
  - I haven't seen any who want that.  LWolf   Jan-17-10 06:07 PM   #108 
  - All you have to do is read some of the replies on this thread and you'd see it.  jenmito   Jan-17-10 06:52 PM   #113 
     - A quick glance at replies  LWolf   Jan-17-10 08:31 PM   #116 
        - You said, "I haven't seen any who want that."  jenmito   Jan-17-10 09:56 PM   #118 
           - No, I wouldn't like to retract that, and  LWolf   Jan-18-10 12:26 AM   #119 
  - I think big tents don't work. I think it's too great a spectrum that they are trying to serve and  GreenPartyVoter   Jan-17-10 06:11 PM   #109 
  - It managed to work with HCR so far. And people thought it WOULDN'T work...  jenmito   Jan-17-10 06:51 PM   #112 
  - Because I'm pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and pro-civil rights. That's why!  shadesofgray   Jan-17-10 06:41 PM   #110 
  - So am I. But some of the Dems. in Congress are not all of those things...  jenmito   Jan-17-10 06:47 PM   #111 
     - Reality check.  depakid   Jan-17-10 07:01 PM   #114 
  - I don't want a "small tent", I just want to kick the corporatists out of the tent before they...  Odin2005   Jan-17-10 08:24 PM   #115 
  - Up is down.  cornermouse   Jan-17-10 08:53 PM   #117 

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