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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:37 PM
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40. call the AFL-CIO..and ask them your questions..they were the ones giving the interview!
ask them about this insurance corporate welfare plan..they will be glad to answer you..I am sure of that!

I would not want you to call my Union or my husbands right now..you couldn't handle it!
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  -So where is the Cadillac plan statistical proof mkultra  Jan-09-10 09:14 AM   #0 
  - I don't need any proof, Obama campaigned against  doc03   Jan-09-10 09:25 AM   #1 
  - Well i hardly doubt that  mkultra   Jan-09-10 09:27 AM   #2 
  - This is NOT McCain's plan and YOU KNOW IT  karynnj   Jan-09-10 10:07 PM   #45 
  - I have attempted to get the facts and have not been successful.  olegramps   Jan-09-10 09:33 AM   #3 
  - Nobody's health care insurance should be taxed  doc03   Jan-09-10 09:48 AM   #5 
  - And again, the bill doesnt suggest that  mkultra   Jan-09-10 09:50 AM   #7 
  - Can't you get it through your head the insurer doesn't pay  doc03   Jan-09-10 10:07 AM   #10 
  - +1 Keep trying.  Jakes Progress   Jan-10-10 11:52 AM   #57 
  - oh please even economic ignuts know the tax will be passed onto the middle class!  flyarm   Jan-09-10 03:30 PM   #27 
  - Obama campaigned against it. McCain FOR it. NYT's Bob Herbert and other explain below:  chimpymustgo   Jan-09-10 10:04 AM   #9 
  - This Cadillac tax in my opinion was a "Poison Pill"  doc03   Jan-09-10 10:27 AM   #15 
  - Fight for single payer, NO. Fight for PO, NO. Fight for trigger..NO.  wroberts189   Jan-09-10 03:30 PM   #26 
  - Wrong.  ProSense   Jan-09-10 12:56 PM   #18 
     - When millions of blue-collar workers were leaning toward John McCain during the 2008 campaign  flyarm   Jan-09-10 03:32 PM   #28 
        - "When millions of blue-collar workers were leaning toward John McCain during the 2008 campaign"  ProSense   Jan-09-10 03:34 PM   #29 
           - I didn't write the article..the NYTIMES did..why don't you write them and ask them?  flyarm   Jan-09-10 04:08 PM   #35 
           - call the AFL-CIO..and ask them your questions..they were the ones giving the interview!  flyarm   Jan-09-10 04:37 PM   #40 
           - It seems like little difference now n/t  doc03   Jan-09-10 10:13 PM   # 
  - I disagree  SpartanDem   Jan-09-10 10:15 AM   #14 
  - I will match that and raise you one...  wroberts189   Jan-09-10 03:16 PM   #24 
  - I don't know what my company pays for health care insurance,  doc03   Jan-09-10 09:56 AM   #8 
  - If you dont know, then you dont know  mkultra   Jan-09-10 03:50 PM   #31 
  - The AFL-CIO is against it--more unions have backed off their opposition  quiller4   Jan-09-10 11:23 AM   #16 
  - what unions have backed off?? Please name them..  flyarm   Jan-09-10 02:37 PM   #21 
     - Names..all i hear is crickets..name the unions backing off!!! eom  flyarm   Jan-09-10 06:50 PM   #42 
  - I wonder if the truth is in your last sentence  karynnj   Jan-09-10 10:09 PM   #46 
     - i woudl hate to accuse Union leaders of this but its starting to look like it  mkultra   Jan-10-10 10:01 AM   #49 
  - Good question. Personally I'm not selfish enough to be concerned about being taxed  MH1   Jan-09-10 09:39 AM   #4 
  - im not either  mkultra   Jan-09-10 09:48 AM   #6 
  - Me either. If I get in 21K a year cost territory my new health insurance plan will be a savings  harun   Jan-09-10 10:11 AM   #11 
  - apologies if you thought my comment was directed at you  MH1   Jan-09-10 10:15 AM   #13 
  - You may be concerned when you find that you health insurance is no longer decent  depakid   Jan-09-10 02:20 PM   #19 
     - mine is already high deductible and I'm okay with that  MH1   Jan-09-10 04:04 PM   #34 
        - are you willing to have high deductable and 100% worse coverage?  flyarm   Jan-09-10 04:11 PM   #36 
        - You're willing to fuck the middle class and leave the rich untouched  Hello_Kitty   Jan-10-10 11:50 AM   #56 
  - I think part of the problem is that the cost depends on where you work  MiniMe   Jan-09-10 10:13 AM   #12 
  - There is help for small businesses  HughMoran   Jan-09-10 02:58 PM   #23 
  - See post #9. Those are CBO and congresses own numbers which anyone would give validity.  dkf   Jan-09-10 12:15 PM   #17 
  - This kind of blind faith is what im questioning  mkultra   Jan-09-10 03:54 PM   #32 
     - I don't see any conflict.  Vattel   Jan-09-10 07:12 PM   #43 
        - well, that is concievable but  mkultra   Jan-10-10 09:58 AM   #48 
  - Unions Rally to Oppose a Proposed Tax on Health Insurance (NYT)  flyarm   Jan-09-10 02:35 PM   #20 
  - your function as a member of the echo chamber is fullfilled  mkultra   Jan-09-10 03:55 PM   #33 
     - call the AFL-CIO! I am sure they would be more than willing to give you an earful right now!!  flyarm   Jan-09-10 04:13 PM   #38 
  - Perhaps your figures are the ones that are incorrect  blueworld   Jan-09-10 02:42 PM   #22 
  - My numbers come from Kaiser, they dont seem to have any numbers  mkultra   Jan-09-10 03:48 PM   #30 
  - Unions Rally to Oppose a Proposed Tax on Health Insurance (NYT)  flyarm   Jan-09-10 03:25 PM   #25 
  - That was a good article with details on how families will be HIT..  shopgreen   Jan-09-10 04:11 PM   #37 
     - shame some call it an echo chamber then ask stupid questions ..because they didn't bother to read it  flyarm   Jan-09-10 04:33 PM   #39 
     - Yep, they aren't going to find a bus big enough  spoony   Jan-10-10 10:13 AM   #54 
     - Actually, the article contains no details  mkultra   Jan-10-10 10:02 AM   #50 
  - We have Kaiser Permanente CA and it cost around $14,000 for a family of 3 per year  tandot   Jan-09-10 04:47 PM   #41 
  - But can you imagine what a plan twice the costs must get you?  mkultra   Jan-10-10 10:03 AM   #51 
     - I can't really imagine that.  tandot   Jan-10-10 01:12 PM   #62 
  - I agree that it seems really high  Vattel   Jan-09-10 07:22 PM   #44 
  - You've gotten your statistical proof in this thread and the other 3 you started.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 10:13 PM   #47 
  - Your an idiot and should know better than to speak when grown ups are talking  mkultra   Jan-10-10 10:07 AM   #52 
     - Grown-ups know that "your an idiot" is something children write.  spoony   Jan-10-10 10:10 AM   #53 
        - yes, thanks for the copy edit.  mkultra   Jan-10-10 11:41 AM   #55 
  - Where is statistical proof that wages will rise because of this excise tax?  Hello_Kitty   Jan-10-10 11:52 AM   #58 
  - You can't have "statistical proof" for something that has never been implemented  karynnj   Jan-10-10 12:18 PM   #60 
  - The only thing is that I'm not putting a specific, and large, dollar value on my lack of proof.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-10-10 12:25 PM   #61 
     - As I said they are using econometric models that produce that result  karynnj   Jan-10-10 05:55 PM   #63 
        - Economists are frequently wrong.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-10-10 06:14 PM   #65 
  - Well, there is none and in fact  mkultra   Jan-11-10 09:02 AM   #68 
  - I support Obama on this issue. Obama in 2008.  freddie mertz   Jan-10-10 12:14 PM   #59 
  - F**K FACTS!!!! I jus make shit up and Obama is a corporatist!! PONY!! /sarcasm  uponit7771   Jan-10-10 06:01 PM   #64 
  - What does the CBO say?  TheKentuckian   Jan-10-10 06:33 PM   #66 
     - "at which point the move to lower level insurance wil be forced."  mkultra   Jan-11-10 09:01 AM   #67 
 

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