| -Top 14 Health Care Reform Provisions That Take Effect Immediately on January 1, 2010 |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 10:15 AM |
#0 |
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but teh bill sux |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-22-09 10:16 AM |
#1 |
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Dennis is well intended but also batshit nuts at times. We need an ADVANCE, not the whole load. |
RBInMaine |
Nov-22-09 11:09 AM |
#16 |
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Just to get that advance |
DissedByBush |
Nov-23-09 07:22 AM |
#89 |
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You reference a god as a mere saint? |
elocs |
Nov-23-09 06:49 AM |
#88 |
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'Remember: "Dennis" spelled backwards is "sinned".' |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 08:28 PM |
#196 |
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Every time a Dem gets a minute on TV |
Frances |
Nov-22-09 10:23 AM |
#2 |
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Right. We grassroots supporters of HCR also need to write LTTE to our local papers. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 07:42 PM |
#73 |
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Sounds ok I guess |
Old Codger |
Nov-22-09 10:23 AM |
#3 |
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On a positive note ~ this information is important for all Americans |
goclark |
Nov-22-09 10:50 AM |
#10 |
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You bet |
Old Codger |
Nov-22-09 11:05 AM |
#15 |
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I have not heard One M$$M person outline it this way |
goclark |
Nov-23-09 08:26 AM |
#94 |
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Thank you. Great post. |
NC_Nurse |
Nov-22-09 10:23 AM |
#4 |
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You're welcome, NC_Nurse. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 08:09 PM |
#122 |
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K&R, it isn't the bill I wanted but it does have some important benefits to it |
Motown_Johnny |
Nov-22-09 10:25 AM |
#5 |
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It is worse than you think! |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-09 11:53 AM |
#27 |
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Oooh! You're so handy with the PHNP anti-HCR op-eds that are long on rhetoric but short on facts! |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 04:18 PM |
#52 |
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That looks good so far. Thanks. |
jwirr |
Nov-22-09 10:25 AM |
#6 |
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Rec'd! Thanks for posting this |
firedupdem |
Nov-22-09 10:28 AM |
#7 |
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Tells me that they can still deny coverage for pre-existing |
Ruby the Liberal |
Nov-22-09 10:53 AM |
#12 |
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You're "missing something." Read #2. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 11:24 AM |
#20 |
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That is what I was referring to. If they have to create a new (temp) |
Ruby the Liberal |
Nov-22-09 11:48 AM |
#24 |
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Until the Exchange is set up, folks w/pre-existing conditions will be covered starting Jan. 1. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 12:24 PM |
#30 |
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I agree that it will cover those already denied, but |
Ruby the Liberal |
Nov-22-09 01:05 PM |
#33 |
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There's nothing that points to your assumption, though. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 02:44 PM |
#42 |
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That is a fallacy |
Ruby the Liberal |
Nov-22-09 05:23 PM |
#64 |
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How so? You're entitled to your opinion but that doesn't mean what I've said "is a fallacy" at all. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 06:04 PM |
#70 |
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Arguing? I thought we were discussing. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Nov-22-09 06:16 PM |
#71 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-22-09 07:07 PM |
#72 |
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"Nothing in the current bill addresses going forward." Um, no. Actually, it does. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-25-09 08:43 PM |
#130 |
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K |
AVID |
Dec-01-09 01:21 PM |
#160 |
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Not quite true! |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-30-09 11:12 PM |
#157 |
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That was changed to 2014 to make the bill more appealing to the conservatives. |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 04:11 PM |
#49 |
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Do you have any credible proof of your assertion? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 04:26 PM |
#53 |
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it was on PBS yesterday. I'll look. I was disturbed by it. I'll try to find a link. |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 04:30 PM |
#55 |
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not the pbs special the language in the bill please. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-22-09 05:20 PM |
#63 |
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Oops and I meant 2012 not 2014! Still looking! |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 05:43 PM |
#69 |
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Well, there is not going be a fucking bill by 1/1/10, so you can............. |
pattmarty |
Nov-23-09 09:10 AM |
#101 |
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Time will tell. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 09:20 AM |
#103 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-23-09 10:01 AM |
#106 |
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But that preexisting condition provision was changed to not take effect till 2014 by the Senate |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 04:08 PM |
#47 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-22-09 04:30 PM |
#54 |
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Isn't that 2012? Nevertheless, the gov't. will offer interim healthcare until the Exchange is set up |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-25-09 08:36 PM |
#129 |
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Good first step |
Frosty1 |
Nov-22-09 10:38 AM |
#8 |
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Thanks Clark. This needed reposting. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-22-09 10:41 AM |
#9 |
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Shout these from the fucking rooftops! |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Nov-22-09 10:52 AM |
#11 |
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You are not getting what you think you are getting! |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-09 11:09 AM |
#17 |
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Unlike the OP, heated doomsday rhetoric is not factual. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 11:19 AM |
#19 |
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I've heard this meme on the lead up to Iraq War, when your side supported IWR |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-09 11:44 AM |
#21 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-22-09 11:51 AM |
#25 |
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Yep, the same old mistakes get repeated over and over again. |
Cleita |
Nov-22-09 01:18 PM |
#35 |
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What are these "mistakes" and "memes" that you speak of? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 04:06 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, I don't know. Everything that hasn't worked in the last hundred years |
Cleita |
Nov-22-09 10:13 PM |
#76 |
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Wow, you're still bemoaning the "mistakes" and "memes" from 1909? Why not go back to 1776? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 08:51 AM |
#98 |
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I could go back to the Bronze Age if you like. |
Cleita |
Nov-23-09 12:56 PM |
#112 |
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I'm curious. What mistakes pertaining to the HCR effort "go back to the Bronze Age"? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 01:32 PM |
#113 |
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NIce try. You are setting up straw men and I'm not playing anymore. |
Cleita |
Nov-23-09 03:28 PM |
#116 |
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lol! You're the one who brought up the Bronze Age in relation to the "mistakes" and "memes" of HCR |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 04:04 PM |
#117 |
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You don't anything about who supported what..I know as my senator Hillary |
Cha |
Nov-22-09 04:15 PM |
#51 |
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Thank you Cha ~ I remember that also |
goclark |
Nov-23-09 08:31 AM |
#96 |
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Cha---YOU'RE A NEW YORKA?! ahhh!! hello my brethren!!! |
vaberella |
Nov-23-09 11:21 AM |
#111 |
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Here's some more non-substance.. |
Cha |
Nov-25-09 09:08 PM |
#134 |
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Upstate NY has wonderful little havens like that. Good school system, too? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-29-09 11:08 AM |
#148 |
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forwarded to email list |
kid a |
Nov-23-09 11:25 PM |
#126 |
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Thanks, CaliforniaPeggy! That's what I'm aiming to do. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 11:32 AM |
#190 |
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And here are ten cost cutting measures |
sandnsea |
Nov-22-09 10:55 AM |
#13 |
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Does anyone know what is meant by wasteful Medicare spending? |
JDPriestly |
Nov-23-09 01:52 AM |
#81 |
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I can think of a lot of ways the system has waste |
mdmc |
Nov-23-09 06:44 AM |
#86 |
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i had to swear to use mine. bcbs |
mopinko |
Nov-25-09 10:01 PM |
#135 |
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New authorities will allow for pre-enrollment screening of providers and suppliers. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 09:16 AM |
#102 |
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good stuff |
AVID |
Dec-03-09 03:46 PM |
#164 |
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I'm not on it yet (close), I believe it's the "Advantage" plans that by....... |
pattmarty |
Nov-23-09 10:49 AM |
#107 |
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In a city like L.A., I think a senior just about has to be on an advantage |
JDPriestly |
Nov-23-09 03:10 PM |
#115 |
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I don't want to bust on you, but If Medicare would have been funded........... |
pattmarty |
Nov-23-09 06:20 PM |
#119 |
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Are mandates not required for those states that opt out of 'public option'? |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-09 10:58 AM |
#14 |
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lol! Which states will dare voters' wrath by opting out? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 11:13 AM |
#18 |
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Bible Belt! |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-09 11:44 AM |
#22 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-22-09 11:53 AM |
#28 |
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Arizona already plans to do so. It is wrong to allow states to do so. |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 04:09 PM |
#48 |
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Talk is cheap. Let's see what'll happen once political reality hits and their bluff is called. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 04:58 PM |
#58 |
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Unless you live he don't make that assumption. We DID reject NCLB |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 05:28 PM |
#65 |
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I'll believe when I see it. AZ ended up accepting stimulus $ after whining about it at first. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 05:35 PM |
#67 |
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Please NOTE that NONE of them will be effective Jan 1 at this point in time. |
Better Today |
Nov-22-09 11:45 AM |
#23 |
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You've raised some interesting points. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 03:51 PM |
#44 |
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#11 - revenues from this program will be used to finance HC reform.... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-22-09 11:52 AM |
#26 |
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Nice to see some positive, factual information posted here for a change |
prolesunited |
Nov-22-09 12:17 PM |
#29 |
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Thanks. I have a close relative who is in exactly the same situation as you. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 01:02 PM |
#32 |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-22-09 12:27 PM |
#31 |
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Nothing will take effect until a final bill is signed, I do |
Cleita |
Nov-22-09 01:14 PM |
#34 |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-22-09 01:31 PM |
#36 |
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thanks..I did edit the post and I never in my life until now have called |
Cleita |
Nov-22-09 01:40 PM |
#37 |
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Just amazing how nobody even knows about that |
impik |
Nov-22-09 01:42 PM |
#38 |
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I know how you feel. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 08:45 PM |
#123 |
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This is what Dean was saying..get these out there as |
Cha |
Nov-22-09 02:01 PM |
#39 |
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Those 14 things makes this bill a MUST PASS situation |
LynneSin |
Nov-22-09 02:17 PM |
#40 |
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I agree. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 02:39 PM |
#192 |
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For those who have been denied coverage because of pre existing conditions.. this is a God send |
Peacetrain |
Nov-22-09 02:18 PM |
#41 |
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But not till 2014. That makes me made. They altered that this week! |
saracat |
Nov-22-09 04:12 PM |
#50 |
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True. But they have an alternative until then. |
impik |
Nov-22-09 05:01 PM |
#59 |
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Nov-22-09 05:19 PM |
#62 |
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That is why EVERY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR (left and center) voted to move it along |
AVID |
Nov-22-09 03:22 PM |
#43 |
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K & R |
HopeOverFear |
Nov-22-09 03:52 PM |
#45 |
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What is the status of pre-existing conditions in the "January" bill? |
freddie mertz |
Nov-22-09 04:36 PM |
#56 |
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What ban? Last I heard pre-existing conditions are supposed to lifted from being a problem. nt |
vaberella |
Nov-22-09 05:16 PM |
#60 |
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Useless answer. Next. |
freddie mertz |
Nov-22-09 05:34 PM |
#66 |
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Nov-22-09 05:41 PM |
#68 |
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You said "ban" you never answered the question. So I should say you gave a useless answer. nt |
vaberella |
Nov-23-09 08:30 AM |
#95 |
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Check THIS link |
freddie mertz |
Nov-23-09 07:46 AM |
#91 |
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From my understanding the "January" bill or whatever your asking hasn't been drafted. |
vaberella |
Nov-23-09 08:35 AM |
#97 |
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Yes, these are all still in process |
freddie mertz |
Nov-23-09 08:54 AM |
#99 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-22-09 05:17 PM |
#61 |
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I don't get why nobody knows about this |
impik |
Nov-22-09 04:55 PM |
#57 |
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kicking back to the top |
kid a |
Dec-01-09 01:11 PM |
#159 |
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disclosure is not enough to control prices. Premium caps and overhead caps would |
yurbud |
Nov-22-09 07:43 PM |
#74 |
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Both the House and Senate bills have measures that would take place later. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-22-09 08:52 PM |
#75 |
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But the insurance corporations use fraud as an excuse for denial of coverage. |
fasttense |
Nov-23-09 04:04 AM |
#82 |
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Greater consumer protection will go hand-in-hand with guaranteed coverage. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 11:05 AM |
#109 |
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kickin to the top and sharing on facebook |
kid a |
Nov-22-09 11:03 PM |
#77 |
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Thanks! And that's a great idea. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 08:01 PM |
#195 |
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Will the lifting of lifetime caps be retroactive? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-09 11:23 PM |
#78 |
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There is nothing in the bill to suggest otherwise. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 07:02 PM |
#120 |
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Any word on what the penalties for price gouging will be? |
dflprincess |
Nov-22-09 11:40 PM |
#79 |
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Clark, thanks |
katkat |
Nov-23-09 01:41 AM |
#80 |
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You're welcome, katkat. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 08:01 PM |
#121 |
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There is a lot not to like about the HCR winding through the congressional halls, |
tavalon |
Nov-23-09 04:16 AM |
#83 |
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Those reforms don't help me at all.. in fact my ins. costs just went up.. |
mdmc |
Nov-23-09 06:39 AM |
#84 |
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This is the press release from Pelosi about the bill passed in the HOUSE |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Nov-23-09 06:44 AM |
#85 |
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The Senate bill S. 1679 has similar language as the House bill. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 08:25 AM |
#93 |
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NEW REPUB. HOUSE HEALTH CARE PROPOSAL, details below |
N_E_1 for Tennis |
Nov-23-09 06:48 AM |
#87 |
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kick |
AVID |
Nov-30-09 11:23 PM |
#158 |
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Why aren't Democrats selling the truth that the GOP are against 31 mill. being insured??? |
deacon |
Nov-23-09 07:39 AM |
#90 |
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Because if the people cared about the 31 million uninsured... |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Nov-23-09 09:24 AM |
#104 |
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My son turns 27 in May and was kicked off our policy 3 years ago |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-23-09 08:18 AM |
#92 |
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Yes... if the reconciled bill that passes the Senate includes the provision. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 10:53 AM |
#108 |
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The Insurance Loophole for ending recissions is the term "Fraud" |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-23-09 08:57 AM |
#100 |
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Under HCR, insurance companies will no longer have the egregious latitude they have now. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-23-09 11:15 AM |
#110 |
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Excellent. Thank you! nt |
quiet.american |
Nov-23-09 09:48 AM |
#105 |
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You're welcome, quiet.american. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-29-09 04:21 PM |
#151 |
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thanks for this list. nt |
RepublicanElephant |
Nov-23-09 02:13 PM |
#114 |
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You're welcome, RepublicanElephant. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 10:23 AM |
#189 |
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k |
kid a |
Nov-23-09 05:16 PM |
#118 |
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Thank you, ClarkUSA. |
Hekate |
Nov-23-09 09:19 PM |
#124 |
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You're welcome, Hekate. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-26-09 08:36 AM |
#137 |
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And we have always been at war with Oceana. nt |
Jakes Progress |
Nov-23-09 09:45 PM |
#125 |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-24-09 03:32 AM |
#127 |
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Kicking to put at the top of GDP. |
unhappycamper |
Nov-25-09 05:56 AM |
#128 |
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Thank you, unhappycamper! |
Cha |
Nov-25-09 10:27 PM |
#136 |
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Thanks and I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-27-09 10:28 AM |
#141 |
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kick |
kid a |
Nov-29-09 03:38 PM |
#150 |
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Yay, it's back! Maybe the mods/admins are starting to see how feverishly fiendish |
Number23 |
Nov-25-09 08:51 PM |
#131 |
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Well knock me over with a feather and call |
Cha |
Nov-25-09 08:55 PM |
#133 |
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The OP is good so I'm glad it's back. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-29-09 08:29 AM |
#146 |
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Kckd |
sudopod |
Nov-25-09 08:54 PM |
#132 |
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Kick for pertinent |
Cha |
Nov-26-09 06:36 PM |
#138 |
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k & r n/t |
R. P. McMurphy |
Nov-26-09 06:55 PM |
#139 |
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Nice work Clark |
davidpdx |
Nov-27-09 06:23 AM |
#140 |
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lol..I'll |
Cha |
Nov-27-09 12:02 PM |
#142 |
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Time for another |
Cha |
Nov-27-09 08:20 PM |
#143 |
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Again.. |
Cha |
Nov-28-09 10:52 PM |
#144 |
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we need to post this in a new thread every couple of days so it can stay on the greatest page |
Aramchek |
Nov-28-09 11:25 PM |
#145 |
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We can also just keep kicking it |
Cha |
Nov-29-09 03:26 PM |
#149 |
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like this |
AVID |
Dec-01-09 03:29 PM |
#161 |
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And this. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-04-09 08:16 PM |
#171 |
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the Truth will set us free, and provide Medical coverage, too |
Aramchek |
Nov-29-09 10:16 AM |
#147 |
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Facts are facts..now matter how many |
Cha |
Nov-29-09 06:16 PM |
#152 |
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Kick to keep it at the |
Cha |
Nov-30-09 12:59 PM |
#153 |
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KICK! |
Cha |
Nov-30-09 04:25 PM |
#154 |
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Keeping this on the front page |
AVID |
Nov-30-09 09:48 PM |
#155 |
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Thanks, AVID! |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 11:10 AM |
#176 |
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Glad to hear this!! can you post a link to this info so I can pass it on, please? nt |
cry baby |
Nov-30-09 09:57 PM |
#156 |
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Sure... see reply #181. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 07:56 PM |
#186 |
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judo chop! |
Aramchek |
Dec-01-09 03:40 PM |
#162 |
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Bonzai! |
Cha |
Dec-02-09 09:29 PM |
#163 |
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.... |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-04-09 09:17 AM |
#167 |
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its amazing how much good the downers must ignore |
mkultra |
Dec-03-09 04:11 PM |
#165 |
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Yeah, it must suck to be them. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-04-09 06:52 PM |
#170 |
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Kick to First Page. |
Cha |
Dec-03-09 09:57 PM |
#166 |
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Thanks, Cha! |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-07-09 09:20 AM |
#188 |
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What a crappy bill, a complete and total failure, a disaster in the making. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-04-09 10:07 AM |
#168 |
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"I just wanted to type that just to see how stupid it looks stacked up against... reality" |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-04-09 02:29 PM |
#169 |
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Thank you! I plan to forward this to my regular contacts. |
DailyGrind51 |
Dec-05-09 08:04 AM |
#172 |
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You're welcome and thanks in return. That's the main reason I posted the OP. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-05-09 06:54 PM |
#173 |
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Nothing about pre-existing conditions? |
Zoeisright |
Dec-05-09 10:06 PM |
#174 |
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Please read through the thread. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 09:45 AM |
#175 |
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It's all ClarkUSA all the time here at DU! |
Moochy |
Dec-06-09 11:51 AM |
#177 |
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It's you with a nonsensical personal attack bc you don't like the message. |
Cha |
Dec-06-09 03:55 PM |
#180 |
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K&R |
Moochy |
Dec-06-09 11:54 AM |
#178 |
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Could you please post a link to this info so I can pass it on? thx!!! |
cry baby |
Dec-06-09 02:55 PM |
#179 |
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Source: Committee on Education and Labor (link -->) |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 03:55 PM |
#181 |
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Thank you! Is there a list like Pelosi's on the senate version of HCR that you know of? |
cry baby |
Dec-06-09 03:59 PM |
#182 |
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The Senate bill S.1679 has similar language as the House bill. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 04:27 PM |
#183 |
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Thanks for that, Clark. |
Cha |
Dec-06-09 04:37 PM |
#184 |
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You're welcome, Cha. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-06-09 05:54 PM |
#185 |
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it's a start! |
Divine Discontent |
Dec-06-09 10:59 PM |
#187 |
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I'm still afraid of it because of how much I am going to be FORCED to pay |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-07-09 11:52 AM |
#191 |
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Not much of REAL value there. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-07-09 03:52 PM |
#193 |
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Uh huh. They look good to me and many other Americans. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-08-09 04:10 PM |
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