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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:28 PM
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10. Exactly! This plan will only get worse, not better.
As more and more Democrats lose seats because this travesty hangs around their necks like a lead albatross, republicans will gain power and remove what little protection is in there to begin with. What we'll be left with is an unregulated monopoly with the ability to force us to pay for little or no service. And in the eyes of the populace, it will be entirely the Democrats' fault - and they'll be right.
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  -How is Congress Going to Make HCR Better Next Year? last1standing  Jan-07-10 12:35 AM   #0 
  - This shows how out of touch the Senate really is. They think we  OHdem10   Jan-07-10 01:06 AM   #1 
  - Here's one of my favorites....  Clio the Leo   Jan-07-10 01:11 AM   #2 
  - That's a great bill but what is the plan to actually get it passed?  last1standing   Jan-07-10 01:22 AM   #3 
     - Oh I agree, it's not an easy task...  Clio the Leo   Jan-07-10 01:50 AM   #4 
        - Nope. Not one of those "oh what should have been!" OPs.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 01:58 AM   #5 
           - Well, a month ago I didn't think they would get Lieberman or Nelson's votes...  Clio the Leo   Jan-07-10 02:27 AM   #6 
           - The got those votes by removing the very things they're promising to put back.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 02:39 AM   #7 
           - They gave away the farm for Lieberman's vote  niceypoo   Jan-08-10 01:52 AM   #74 
           - or, your opinion is not gold and you have no way of knowing what will happen.  dionysus   Jan-07-10 08:46 PM   #18 
              - So you don't know of a plan but you can try to shit all over the thread with snark.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:13 PM   #33 
              - neither of us know anything. it's the future. either one of us, or none of us could be right on what  dionysus   Jan-08-10 09:31 AM   #82 
              - Saying, 'they will fix it later,' is another way of saying, 'they blew it.'  niceypoo   Jan-08-10 01:55 AM   #75 
                 - or, it's believing it's a starting point to build upon. all a matter of opinion...  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:38 AM   #85 
  - I'm kicking this because there hasn't been a single attempt to explain a plan.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 05:36 PM   #8 
  - That's because there isn't a plan  depakid   Jan-07-10 05:39 PM   #9 
     - Exactly! This plan will only get worse, not better.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 06:28 PM   #10 
  - Still no takers?  last1standing   Jan-07-10 07:02 PM   #11 
  - You're ignoring the takers now here. n/t  jenmito   Jan-07-10 08:55 PM   #22 
     - Who have nothing to contribute other than snarky comments  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 08:58 PM   #23 
     - Nobody has replied to MY post. n/t  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:04 PM   #26 
        - That's because you couldn't wait over 10 minutes before throwing a fit about it.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:12 PM   #32 
     - You couldn't wait past 10 minutes? Very weak.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:10 PM   #30 
  - They will fix it the same way they fixed NAFTA and PATRIOT  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 07:07 PM   #12 
  - +1  shadesofgray   Jan-07-10 07:08 PM   #13 
  - +2  yourout   Jan-07-10 09:01 PM   #24 
  - And NCLB (nt)  dflprincess   Jan-08-10 12:12 PM   #87 
  - PATRIOT has been revised many times,  boppers   Jan-08-10 09:15 PM   #90 
  - knr for an answer ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 08:13 PM   #14 
  - All the answers to your questions are right here  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 08:32 PM   #15 
  - So the plan is to read how a bill technically becomes law?  last1standing   Jan-07-10 08:38 PM   #16 
     - Here's a thought  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 08:48 PM   #20 
        - Yeah, it's always easier to try to fix something twice rather than once.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:15 PM   #36 
           - You don't know what needs fixing  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 09:23 PM   #43 
  - Next year? They're NOT. Nor will they in two years. This is the best bill they can get  jenmito   Jan-07-10 08:44 PM   #17 
  - you're wasting your breath. *sigh*  dionysus   Jan-07-10 08:47 PM   #19 
  - I suppose I am...  jenmito   Jan-07-10 08:49 PM   #21 
  - It is a waste of breath when she doesn't answer the question.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:09 PM   #28 
     - Are you saying I didn't answer the question? n/.t  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:17 PM   #37 
        - Yes, I am.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:20 PM   #40 
           - None of them said they'd fix the problems next year. I answered your question. n/t  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:22 PM   #41 
              - You answered with a false statement. Weak.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:25 PM   #46 
                 - Find me ONE link anywhere on the web where a Dem. in congress says they can fix the bill next year.  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:31 PM   #53 
                    - Kick to repeat the request. n/t  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:43 PM   #60 
  - How sad is it that Obama supporters have gone from Yes we can! to No, we can't  depakid   Jan-07-10 09:02 PM   #25 
  - What's sad is that you, a Dem., don't consider yourself an Obama supporter.  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:10 PM   #29 
     - When Obama starts supporting us, that might change.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:11 PM   #31 
     - He IS supporting us. You just choose to ignore everything he's doing and  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:15 PM   #35 
        - Obama has gotten the bill he wants. He even said so.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:19 PM   #39 
        - He also said he got the bill he wanted when the House had the public option in it...  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:24 PM   #44 
           - Once again, that is completely not true.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:26 PM   #48 
              - What? You're saying he didn't praise the House version, the earlier Senate version,  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:29 PM   #51 
                 - Once again, Yes.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:32 PM   #54 
                    - He was just as pleased with every version that passed because he knew they were the  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:42 PM   #59 
        - DADT, DOMA is not what I would refer as supporting us  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 09:56 PM   #67 
     - I support policies- not politicians  depakid   Jan-07-10 09:28 PM   #50 
  - If they're not going to make it better, its not a start its an end.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:09 PM   #27 
     - Wrong. Just because it can't be improved NOW doesn't mean it won't EVER be  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:13 PM   #34 
        - We have 60 Democrats and a massive electoral victory behind us.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:17 PM   #38 
           - It seems 60 wasn't the number.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-07-10 09:22 PM   #42 
           - K&R  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 09:26 PM   #47 
           - We don't have 60 libs/progressives.  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:27 PM   #49 
              - That's not a plan, its a wet dream.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:34 PM   #55 
                 - You can't reply to me because I'm calling you out on your false premise that Obama or another  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:40 PM   #57 
                 - Harkin's been pushing the "starter home" metaphor.  burning rain   Jan-07-10 10:26 PM   #71 
                    - Don't expect an answer to that.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 10:50 PM   #73 
                    - Yes, "with time" the "starter home" can be built upon. But again, nobody said the bill will be  jenmito   Jan-08-10 10:36 AM   #84 
                       - It's not a false premise.  burning rain   Jan-08-10 12:11 PM   #86 
                 - Ask your Congressman  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 09:41 PM   #58 
                 - Nobody SAID they could make the bill better next year. PERIOD.  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:45 PM   #62 
                    - He knows that  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 09:49 PM   #65 
                       - LOL! I'm not interested in running around in circles with a propagandist.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:51 PM   #66 
                          - Why should I treat your questions seriously?  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 10:11 PM   #69 
                             - Like I said, plenty of snark and bullshit but no answers from the cheerleaders.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 10:19 PM   #70 
                                - Yeah I know...  BklnDem75   Jan-07-10 10:35 PM   #72 
  - Well, if the bill is as bad as most people here claim it is  Proud Liberal Dem   Jan-07-10 09:25 PM   #45 
  - "Hand wringing" is whining about those of us pointing out the flaws here.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:30 PM   #52 
  - Maybe Dorgan's drug reimportation bill has a chance.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 09:35 PM   #56 
  - The Obama administration killed the last attempt at reimportation.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:45 PM   #63 
  - So far, plenty of snark, insults and denials but no answers.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 09:44 PM   #61 
  - Yes-there ISN'T an answer to how the bill can be fixed next year because nobody  jenmito   Jan-07-10 09:47 PM   #64 
     - I told you that I won't continue responding to propaganda and deceptions.  last1standing   Jan-07-10 10:04 PM   #68 
        - Is this the last, last, last time you will say it?  niceypoo   Jan-08-10 01:56 AM   #76 
        - Way to butt into something that doesn't concern you.  last1standing   Jan-08-10 02:04 AM   #77 
           - A simple, 'yes,' would have sufficed  niceypoo   Jan-08-10 02:16 AM   #78 
        - You can say you're done with me all you want. It won't stop me from posting the TRUTH-that NOBODY  jenmito   Jan-08-10 10:32 AM   #83 
  - Clinton did lose congress though and under Pres. Obama welfare got several extension in these hard..  ProgressOnTheMove   Jan-08-10 03:49 AM   #79 
  - for one  CTLawGuy   Jan-08-10 06:12 AM   #80 
  - Why regurgitate talking points that have already been proved false?  last1standing   Jan-08-10 06:51 AM   #81 
     - if you asked many senators  CTLawGuy   Jan-08-10 08:48 PM   #88 
     - You're using a false analogy. That was the point.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 03:45 AM   #94 
        - my positiion has always been the same  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 07:51 AM   #95 
           - Yes, health care harms the working class when they still can't afford to use it.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 05:45 PM   #98 
              - that would still be better than having no insurance  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 06:57 PM   #100 
     - btw  CTLawGuy   Jan-08-10 08:52 PM   #89 
        - Did the original SS force people to pay money to monopolies?  last1standing   Jan-09-10 03:41 AM   #93 
           - it taxed working people  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 12:53 PM   #96 
              - It taxed working people who then received the benefits. You know this.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 05:37 PM   #97 
                 - this bill gives people access to insurance  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 06:53 PM   #99 
                    - Iit doesn't matter how often you try to link this with social security, it's just not working.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 07:46 PM   #102 
                       - fine  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 07:53 PM   #103 
                          - Propaganda isn't reason, it's just regurgitated talking points.  last1standing   Jan-09-10 07:59 PM   #104 
  - They can't: the leverage will be gone.  Nikki Stone1   Jan-09-10 12:31 AM   #91 
  - They aren't and they won't be improving squat before another effort would HAVE to be tried  TheKentuckian   Jan-09-10 02:40 AM   #92 
  - Improving the bill  johan helge   Jan-09-10 07:09 PM   #101 
  - dont'cha know that Krugman  CTLawGuy   Jan-09-10 08:08 PM   #105 
     - You mean  johan helge   Jan-10-10 01:56 AM   #106 
     - A plan that will degrade a bad situation won't need to be improved or expanded but rather replaced  TheKentuckian   Jan-10-10 02:08 AM   #107 
     - No, we still like him, we just don't agree this time.  last1standing   Jan-10-10 02:26 AM   #108 
        - he dumped just about every promise?  CTLawGuy   Jan-10-10 05:45 AM   #109 
  - amendments and revisions will come slowly, thru the years, but we need to ram  secondwind   Jan-10-10 06:22 AM   #110 
 

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