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Thu Jan-07-10 06:28 PM
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| 10. Exactly! This plan will only get worse, not better. |
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As more and more Democrats lose seats because this travesty hangs around their necks like a lead albatross, republicans will gain power and remove what little protection is in there to begin with. What we'll be left with is an unregulated monopoly with the ability to force us to pay for little or no service. And in the eyes of the populace, it will be entirely the Democrats' fault - and they'll be right.
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| -How is Congress Going to Make HCR Better Next Year? |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 12:35 AM |
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This shows how out of touch the Senate really is. They think we |
OHdem10 |
Jan-07-10 01:06 AM |
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Here's one of my favorites.... |
Clio the Leo |
Jan-07-10 01:11 AM |
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That's a great bill but what is the plan to actually get it passed? |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 01:22 AM |
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Oh I agree, it's not an easy task... |
Clio the Leo |
Jan-07-10 01:50 AM |
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Nope. Not one of those "oh what should have been!" OPs. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 01:58 AM |
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Well, a month ago I didn't think they would get Lieberman or Nelson's votes... |
Clio the Leo |
Jan-07-10 02:27 AM |
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The got those votes by removing the very things they're promising to put back. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 02:39 AM |
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They gave away the farm for Lieberman's vote |
niceypoo |
Jan-08-10 01:52 AM |
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or, your opinion is not gold and you have no way of knowing what will happen. |
dionysus |
Jan-07-10 08:46 PM |
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So you don't know of a plan but you can try to shit all over the thread with snark. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:13 PM |
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neither of us know anything. it's the future. either one of us, or none of us could be right on what |
dionysus |
Jan-08-10 09:31 AM |
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Saying, 'they will fix it later,' is another way of saying, 'they blew it.' |
niceypoo |
Jan-08-10 01:55 AM |
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or, it's believing it's a starting point to build upon. all a matter of opinion... |
dionysus |
Jan-08-10 10:38 AM |
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I'm kicking this because there hasn't been a single attempt to explain a plan. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 05:36 PM |
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That's because there isn't a plan |
depakid |
Jan-07-10 05:39 PM |
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Exactly! This plan will only get worse, not better. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 06:28 PM |
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Still no takers? |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 07:02 PM |
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You're ignoring the takers now here. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 08:55 PM |
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Who have nothing to contribute other than snarky comments |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 08:58 PM |
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Nobody has replied to MY post. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:04 PM |
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That's because you couldn't wait over 10 minutes before throwing a fit about it. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:12 PM |
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You couldn't wait past 10 minutes? Very weak. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:10 PM |
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They will fix it the same way they fixed NAFTA and PATRIOT |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 07:07 PM |
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+1 |
shadesofgray |
Jan-07-10 07:08 PM |
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+2 |
yourout |
Jan-07-10 09:01 PM |
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And NCLB (nt) |
dflprincess |
Jan-08-10 12:12 PM |
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PATRIOT has been revised many times, |
boppers |
Jan-08-10 09:15 PM |
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knr for an answer ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 08:13 PM |
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All the answers to your questions are right here |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 08:32 PM |
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So the plan is to read how a bill technically becomes law? |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 08:38 PM |
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Here's a thought |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 08:48 PM |
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Yeah, it's always easier to try to fix something twice rather than once. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:15 PM |
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You don't know what needs fixing |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 09:23 PM |
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Next year? They're NOT. Nor will they in two years. This is the best bill they can get |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 08:44 PM |
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you're wasting your breath. *sigh* |
dionysus |
Jan-07-10 08:47 PM |
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I suppose I am... |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 08:49 PM |
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It is a waste of breath when she doesn't answer the question. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:09 PM |
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Are you saying I didn't answer the question? n/.t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:17 PM |
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Yes, I am. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:20 PM |
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None of them said they'd fix the problems next year. I answered your question. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:22 PM |
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You answered with a false statement. Weak. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:25 PM |
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Find me ONE link anywhere on the web where a Dem. in congress says they can fix the bill next year. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:31 PM |
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Kick to repeat the request. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:43 PM |
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How sad is it that Obama supporters have gone from Yes we can! to No, we can't |
depakid |
Jan-07-10 09:02 PM |
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What's sad is that you, a Dem., don't consider yourself an Obama supporter. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:10 PM |
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When Obama starts supporting us, that might change. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:11 PM |
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He IS supporting us. You just choose to ignore everything he's doing and |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:15 PM |
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Obama has gotten the bill he wants. He even said so. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:19 PM |
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He also said he got the bill he wanted when the House had the public option in it... |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:24 PM |
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Once again, that is completely not true. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:26 PM |
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What? You're saying he didn't praise the House version, the earlier Senate version, |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:29 PM |
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Once again, Yes. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:32 PM |
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He was just as pleased with every version that passed because he knew they were the |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:42 PM |
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DADT, DOMA is not what I would refer as supporting us |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 09:56 PM |
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I support policies- not politicians |
depakid |
Jan-07-10 09:28 PM |
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If they're not going to make it better, its not a start its an end. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:09 PM |
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Wrong. Just because it can't be improved NOW doesn't mean it won't EVER be |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:13 PM |
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We have 60 Democrats and a massive electoral victory behind us. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:17 PM |
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It seems 60 wasn't the number. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-07-10 09:22 PM |
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K&R |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 09:26 PM |
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We don't have 60 libs/progressives. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:27 PM |
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That's not a plan, its a wet dream. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:34 PM |
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You can't reply to me because I'm calling you out on your false premise that Obama or another |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:40 PM |
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Harkin's been pushing the "starter home" metaphor. |
burning rain |
Jan-07-10 10:26 PM |
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Don't expect an answer to that. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 10:50 PM |
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Yes, "with time" the "starter home" can be built upon. But again, nobody said the bill will be |
jenmito |
Jan-08-10 10:36 AM |
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It's not a false premise. |
burning rain |
Jan-08-10 12:11 PM |
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Ask your Congressman |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 09:41 PM |
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Nobody SAID they could make the bill better next year. PERIOD. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:45 PM |
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He knows that |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 09:49 PM |
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LOL! I'm not interested in running around in circles with a propagandist. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:51 PM |
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Why should I treat your questions seriously? |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 10:11 PM |
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Like I said, plenty of snark and bullshit but no answers from the cheerleaders. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 10:19 PM |
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Yeah I know... |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-07-10 10:35 PM |
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Well, if the bill is as bad as most people here claim it is |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-07-10 09:25 PM |
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"Hand wringing" is whining about those of us pointing out the flaws here. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:30 PM |
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Maybe Dorgan's drug reimportation bill has a chance. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 09:35 PM |
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The Obama administration killed the last attempt at reimportation. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:45 PM |
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So far, plenty of snark, insults and denials but no answers. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 09:44 PM |
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Yes-there ISN'T an answer to how the bill can be fixed next year because nobody |
jenmito |
Jan-07-10 09:47 PM |
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I told you that I won't continue responding to propaganda and deceptions. |
last1standing |
Jan-07-10 10:04 PM |
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Is this the last, last, last time you will say it? |
niceypoo |
Jan-08-10 01:56 AM |
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Way to butt into something that doesn't concern you. |
last1standing |
Jan-08-10 02:04 AM |
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A simple, 'yes,' would have sufficed |
niceypoo |
Jan-08-10 02:16 AM |
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You can say you're done with me all you want. It won't stop me from posting the TRUTH-that NOBODY |
jenmito |
Jan-08-10 10:32 AM |
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Clinton did lose congress though and under Pres. Obama welfare got several extension in these hard.. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Jan-08-10 03:49 AM |
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for one |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-08-10 06:12 AM |
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Why regurgitate talking points that have already been proved false? |
last1standing |
Jan-08-10 06:51 AM |
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if you asked many senators |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-08-10 08:48 PM |
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You're using a false analogy. That was the point. |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 03:45 AM |
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my positiion has always been the same |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 07:51 AM |
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Yes, health care harms the working class when they still can't afford to use it. |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 05:45 PM |
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that would still be better than having no insurance |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 06:57 PM |
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btw |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-08-10 08:52 PM |
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Did the original SS force people to pay money to monopolies? |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 03:41 AM |
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it taxed working people |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 12:53 PM |
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It taxed working people who then received the benefits. You know this. |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 05:37 PM |
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this bill gives people access to insurance |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 06:53 PM |
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Iit doesn't matter how often you try to link this with social security, it's just not working. |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 07:46 PM |
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fine |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 07:53 PM |
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Propaganda isn't reason, it's just regurgitated talking points. |
last1standing |
Jan-09-10 07:59 PM |
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They can't: the leverage will be gone. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-09-10 12:31 AM |
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They aren't and they won't be improving squat before another effort would HAVE to be tried |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-09-10 02:40 AM |
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Improving the bill |
johan helge |
Jan-09-10 07:09 PM |
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dont'cha know that Krugman |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-09-10 08:08 PM |
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You mean |
johan helge |
Jan-10-10 01:56 AM |
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A plan that will degrade a bad situation won't need to be improved or expanded but rather replaced |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-10-10 02:08 AM |
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No, we still like him, we just don't agree this time. |
last1standing |
Jan-10-10 02:26 AM |
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he dumped just about every promise? |
CTLawGuy |
Jan-10-10 05:45 AM |
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amendments and revisions will come slowly, thru the years, but we need to ram |
secondwind |
Jan-10-10 06:22 AM |
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