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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 09:41 PM
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47. I suppose pretty soon you are going to deny he ever campaigned against mandates.
Well you certainly have learned the playbook.
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  -Was Obama being disingenuous when he campaigned against the mandate dkf  Jan-02-10 07:27 PM   #0 
  - I don't care how suspicous you are..  Cha   Jan-02-10 07:34 PM   #1 
  - Hey I'm the one who believed Obama when he convinced me a mandate was WRONG.  dkf   Jan-02-10 07:42 PM   #4 
     - Why, were you telling lies about her?  Cha   Jan-02-10 07:45 PM   #9 
        - I harped on her for everything. I admit it.  dkf   Jan-02-10 07:51 PM   #12 
           - That's was the facts. So it wasn't "trashing"  Cha   Jan-02-10 07:57 PM   #16 
  - " I feel kind of bad for Hillary."  ProSense   Jan-02-10 07:39 PM   #2 
  - No, because "my" guy landed up doing the same thing anyway.  dkf   Jan-02-10 07:45 PM   #8 
     - Campaign promises always  ProSense   Jan-02-10 08:15 PM   #23 
        - Reality can give way to the Veto too.  dkf   Jan-02-10 08:30 PM   #28 
           - That makes no sense. n/t  ProSense   Jan-02-10 08:39 PM   #32 
  - What difference does it make now?  HughMoran   Jan-02-10 07:41 PM   #3 
  - It helps voters know Obama better when it comes to campaign promises. He will run again in 2012 nt  CaliCompadre   Jan-02-10 07:44 PM   #7 
     - 1 year in we're fretting about his 2012 run?  HughMoran   Jan-02-10 08:11 PM   #21 
        - Yes.  dkf   Jan-02-10 08:23 PM   #25 
  - I believe Obama pretended to dislike the mandate, but was aware that it was necessary  CaliCompadre   Jan-02-10 07:42 PM   #5 
  - That would be a very cynical thing to do.  dkf   Jan-02-10 07:48 PM   #11 
  - Obama was being a politician trying to get elected  Oregone   Jan-02-10 07:43 PM   #6 
  - Pretty much sums it up.  bigwillq   Jan-02-10 08:32 PM   #29 
  - No. He realized once in office that it was all he could get out of the Senate.  treestar   Jan-02-10 07:48 PM   #10 
  - Actually- he could have pushed reconciliation- though some will continue to be dishonest about that  depakid   Jan-02-10 07:52 PM   #13 
  - So you believe he doesn't support the mandate then?  dkf   Jan-02-10 07:52 PM   #14 
     - He'd have to veto the bill  treestar   Jan-02-10 08:13 PM   #22 
  - I don't think so - if you read DU or Daily Kos  karynnj   Jan-02-10 07:54 PM   #15 
  - Thanks karyn for bringing some more facts  Cha   Jan-02-10 07:59 PM   #17 
  - Thanks for the compliment  karynnj   Jan-02-10 08:43 PM   #34 
  - So you think the mandate is there because we won more Senate seats  dkf   Jan-02-10 08:05 PM   #19 
     - I think it was the position of the Business Council  karynnj   Jan-02-10 08:27 PM   #27 
        - Very interesting perspective.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:11 PM   #37 
  - I think he's still opposed to it, actually.  boppers   Jan-02-10 08:03 PM   #18 
  - Disingenuous? I'd call it dishonest.  shadesofgray   Jan-02-10 08:07 PM   #20 
  - Yeah that public option statement was embarrassing.  dkf   Jan-02-10 08:20 PM   #24 
     - Honestly, I don't think he cares. He just wants a "win" no matter who it hurts.  shadesofgray   Jan-02-10 08:43 PM   #33 
        - Good to know you think that.  babylonsister   Jan-02-10 08:44 PM   #35 
  - He owes the public an explanation on that.  JVS   Jan-02-10 08:23 PM   #26 
  - Oh my, still bitter? Smashed Hillary to smithereens on the mandate?  babylonsister   Jan-02-10 08:35 PM   #30 
  - this is the third time you have posted this.  mkultra   Jan-02-10 08:37 PM   #31 
  - If you don't care then why are you posting?  dkf   Jan-02-10 08:53 PM   #36 
     - .  HughMoran   Jan-02-10 09:38 PM   #44 
  - Of course he was.  jesus_of_suburbia   Jan-02-10 09:13 PM   #38 
  - I think he knew she was right.  hollowdweller   Jan-02-10 09:41 PM   #46 
     - 400 or so pages of regulation on the ins industry points toward that  Bodhi BloodWave   Jan-02-10 09:47 PM   #51 
  - of course he was  paulk   Jan-02-10 09:18 PM   #39 
  - "That he would lie so baldly...I didn't support him during the primaries" Sounds like bitterness  ProSense   Jan-02-10 09:26 PM   #41 
     - You are completely misreading that statement.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:30 PM   #42 
     - No, you're  ProSense   Jan-02-10 09:38 PM   #43 
        - I suppose pretty soon you are going to deny he ever campaigned against mandates.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:41 PM   #47 
        - Maybe you should take the time to reread the information provided. n/t  ProSense   Jan-02-10 09:44 PM   #48 
           - I read it. I'm just predicting your next move.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:46 PM   #49 
        - Here's a nasty campaign ad by the Obama campaign against mandates  CaliCompadre   Jan-02-10 09:46 PM   #50 
           - You need to come to grips with the fact that Obama is the President. n/t  ProSense   Jan-02-10 09:49 PM   #52 
           - Did you pull up the PDF?  dkf   Jan-02-10 10:35 PM   #59 
           - you need to come to grips with the fact that you're wrong  paulk   Jan-02-10 11:32 PM   #60 
              - Wrong? The facts are there. Most of this mandate nonsense is driven by bitterness. n/t  ProSense   Jan-02-10 11:40 PM   #61 
           - And people wonder why I believed he was against mandates.  dkf   Jan-02-10 10:32 PM   #57 
     - it's the truth.  paulk   Jan-02-10 10:34 PM   #58 
  - Interesting question.  Vattel   Jan-02-10 09:23 PM   #40 
  - probably. don't much care.  Teaser   Jan-02-10 09:38 PM   #45 
  - Yeah some don't.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:59 PM   #55 
  - Duck! Sniper Fire!!!  NYC_SKP   Jan-02-10 09:55 PM   #53 
  - LOLLOLLOL.  dkf   Jan-02-10 09:58 PM   #54 
  - i don't have any reason to believe he was disingenuous...  elana i am   Jan-02-10 10:16 PM   #56 
  - As someone who volunteered for him in the primaries, he absolutely was being disingenuous  Hippo_Tron   Jan-03-10 12:09 AM   #62 
  - He lied!  IndianaGreen   Jan-03-10 02:02 AM   #63 
  - Locking...  rasputin1952   Jan-03-10 04:41 AM   #64 

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