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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:59 PM
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27. The Democratic Party in Indiana has Bayh, and that's about it.
There is money in the coffers of county organizations to field and support a statewide ballot. There were many Democrats on that statewide ballot. But no Senate candidate.

One could have been fielded. And supported.

Lugar would have prevailed, almost certainly, but a dialogue could have been established.

My point is that in a climate where the will to challenge an entrenched Republican like Lugar is almost non-existent, a third party agenda is suffocated.

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  -Pete Seeger didn't naysay and complain. He ORGANIZED and ACTED. (Read On) RBInMaine  Jan-02-10 12:55 PM   #0 
  - Indeed. Also I have a hard time picturing Seeger walking into  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 12:56 PM   #1 
  - Spot on point ! Thanks.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 12:57 PM   #2 
  - +1000. nt  TheWraith   Jan-02-10 01:03 PM   #4 
  - I can totally see him walking into the office of a conservative...  Armstead   Jan-02-10 01:31 PM   #11 
     - Seeger confronted certain folks when he needed to but generally  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 01:33 PM   #12 
     - Horsecrap. "Progressives" are bashing Dems but can't elect their kind of candidates. It is a very  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:56 PM   #25 
        - "civil disagreements" ... "quit your pissing and moaning" (nt)  noamnety   Jan-02-10 02:13 PM   #38 
        - It'sthe narrow minded blockheadedness of people like you that lead to third parties  Armstead   Jan-02-10 02:14 PM   #39 
           - I never said "all do nothing." And only the very kind of "blockheadedness" YOU are  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:25 PM   #41 
           - Nader, per se, is not even the issue. He might prefer to be, something like  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 05:35 PM   #54 
  - Kicked and recommended.  TheWraith   Jan-02-10 01:03 PM   #3 
  - I'm not sure about this post.  noamnety   Jan-02-10 01:04 PM   #5 
  - I am CITING Jesus et. als. and not comparing myself to them. You miss the larger point which is  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:17 PM   #7 
  - The problem here  noamnety   Jan-02-10 01:26 PM   #9 
  - Wrong wrong and wrong again. Of course I know many "progressives" out in the world are politically  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:50 PM   #19 
     - "They ran. They lost. ... Quit the bitching"  noamnety   Jan-02-10 01:53 PM   #21 
        - Having worked hard to elect Kerry (and we carried Maine by a healthy margin) I will tell you that  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:03 PM   #28 
  - I think you misunderstand the word "coalition".  LooseWilly   Jan-02-10 02:41 PM   #47 
  - Bingo  Armstead   Jan-02-10 01:17 PM   #8 
  - Ouch. I know the OP means well, but  tblue   Jan-02-10 02:09 PM   #32 
     - You are getting a hell of a lot more with Obama/Dems than with RePUKES. A blind person could see  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:18 PM   #40 
  - I'm offended!!!  Autonomy   Jan-02-10 01:06 PM   #6 
  - Um, this is a discussion board. It has no bearng on what people do or don'tt do otherwise  Armstead   Jan-02-10 01:26 PM   #10 
  - Yup, so we are "discussing" action vs. bitching. Your reply is awash in circular reasoning.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:42 PM   #15 
     - Circular reasoning? Sounds to me like you're doing the bitching.  Armstead   Jan-02-10 02:07 PM   #30 
  - So when are you going to ORGANIZE and ACT against Lieberman, Stupak, and Nelson.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-02-10 01:34 PM   #13 
  - They are Dems who got elected in THEIR districts. Better to have them than RePUKES. Not happy with  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:40 PM   #14 
     - There is no difference between them and the GOP  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 01:44 PM   #17 
        - Then go and elect "progressives" there instead. Or can you?  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 01:51 PM   #20 
        - I am working for, and voting, for my progressive congressperson. I am not voting for Evan Bayh  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 01:55 PM   #24 
           - Bayh is better than an Indiana RePUKE. The better of "two evils" is still better.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:07 PM   #29 
              - The better of two evils gave us Stupak, Nelson, and the rest of the blue dogs  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 02:32 PM   #43 
                 - But it is lesser. They are still better than RePUKES from those districts. Not happy, then get your  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:35 PM   #45 
                    - Lesser? As in Italian fascists were better than German nazis, or  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 05:26 PM   #53 
        - In Indiana Lugar ran unopposed by any Democratic nominee. His is arguably  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 01:54 PM   #22 
           - The Indiana Democratic Party didn't get one dime from the national to field a candidate  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 01:56 PM   #26 
           - The Democratic Party in Indiana has Bayh, and that's about it.  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 01:59 PM   #27 
           - So just give up? Don't even try? And then trash Bayh and Dems? How childish.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:12 PM   #36 
              - The county chairs would have come through, as they always do,  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 06:00 PM   #59 
           - That wouldn't have stopped Wellstone from at least trying. No excuses for not trying.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:11 PM   #35 
           - No excuses. None. Wellstone would try. Dean would try. Go and at least try.  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:08 PM   #31 
              - Agree. A Party that does not challenge an old warhorse like Lugar  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 05:39 PM   #56 
  - Huh? The Firedoggers are acting.  DrToast   Jan-02-10 01:43 PM   #16 
  - True, but that's a bit like saying the  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 01:45 PM   #18 
  - Apparently they aren't allowed to use the internet to organize. :)  noamnety   Jan-02-10 01:55 PM   #23 
  - Well, the bitching part is there. Where is the organizing part?  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:09 PM   #33 
  - That's a very reasonable response.  Armstead   Jan-02-10 02:10 PM   #34 
  - What action?  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:13 PM   #37 
  - I give them points for that also.  truedelphi   Jan-02-10 03:46 PM   #51 
  - Why do you assume that one precludes the other? nt  LWolf   Jan-02-10 02:27 PM   #42 
  - You're reading too much into it. I know plenty of progressives are politically active. The point  RBInMaine   Jan-02-10 02:34 PM   #44 
     - I don't think you are able to measure that accurately. nt  LWolf   Jan-02-10 03:13 PM   #48 
  - Excellent post. Thank you. nt  JamesA1102   Jan-02-10 02:40 PM   #46 
  - Pete is not dead. He can and does speak for himself.  Bluenorthwest   Jan-02-10 03:42 PM   #49 
  - We're free to invoke public figures. It's one of the main things about  saltpoint   Jan-02-10 06:06 PM   #60 
  - thank you RBin Maine.  truedelphi   Jan-02-10 03:45 PM   #50 
  - KnR! Get out the VOTE in 2010!  Hekate   Jan-02-10 04:21 PM   #52 
  - when are you going to ORGANIZE and ACT to get rid of Collins & Snowe?  ima_sinnic   Jan-02-10 05:37 PM   #55 
  - Who says people aren't doing anything? Sheez. We ARE.  closeupready   Jan-02-10 05:41 PM   #57 
  - As an activist myself I have very mixed feelings about this post.  Bjorn Against   Jan-02-10 05:57 PM   #58 
  - good post  Armstead   Jan-03-10 09:38 AM   #62 
  - Why is it those who dismiss internet posters are also the ones who complain the most about them?  jgraz   Jan-02-10 09:16 PM   #61 
  - I don't recall Pete calling for support of corporate power in Washington  TheKentuckian   Jan-04-10 04:54 PM   #63 
  - k&r nt  RepublicanElephant   Jan-04-10 07:20 PM   #64 
 

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