Reply #16: I think it's Newburgh, NY

[caraher]

I'd never even heard of it before today, but apparently it was dubbed "NY State's Most Violent City" about 7 years ago. It's on the Hudson north of NYC (hence the NYC Crips sending people to set up shop there).

This does remind me that, even though Obama strikes me more as a centrist than a progressive, the simple fact that he is in the White House can make an enormous difference in engaging huge numbers of people who have been shut out of the political process. We might not see the change we want in 2009, but we must also take the long view.